Gengetsu Hōzuki vs. the Gokage

[Ghost in the Shell]

Who does he win against? Who does he lose to?

Location: Forest
Starting distance: 50 meters
Intel: Manga

- vs. Tsunade
- vs. Mei Terumī
- vs. Gaara
- vs. Ōnoki
- vs. Ay

 

[KidGamer65]

He beats all of them.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

He beats all of them.

How does he fare against Danzō?

 

[Transcendence]

Clears them all.

 

[KidGamer65]

How does he fare against Danzō?

It all depends on Sharingan vs. Clam Genjutsu. If the clam Genjutsu can't be seen through by Sharingan, Trollkage wins, if it can, he loses.

 

[ARGUS]

Yep he beats all of the gokage bar Ay individually

 

[Lariatoo]

All of them except a Gaara with acess to gold sand.

 

[super yang]

They all defeat him except Mei

 

[Beans2]

He beats all of them.

Lol, how? Pretty sure Gaara beat Mizukage in canon. Sand sensing detects clam which is then sealed, oil can't keep up with vast amounts of sand, Mizukage was almost sealed multiple times, Joki Boy leaves him as a sitting duck and Gaara can avoid its explosions by going airborne...gold dust isn't needed to win this battle.

Ay would outlast the clam summoning, tank/dodge Joki Boy explosions, and kill the mizukage in close combat as gengetsu can't properly liquify against raiton attacks

Danzo could summon Baku to suck up the clam's mist then slice up the clam with fuuton cutting attacks. Joki Boy just weakens the Mizukage and izanagi means it doesn't matter if Danzo gets caught up in the explosion. Hydrification would be a b*tch to deal with though, but I suppose Danzo can blow his liquified body parts all over the place with fuuton so they can't re-form

 

[FemmeFatale]

Tsunade solos him with body path way, he has no way of killing her

 

[Beans2]

Tsunade solos him with body path way, he has no way of killing her

Water bullet through the brain kills her.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Water bullet through the brain kills her.

No it doesn't, being shot through the brain doesn't even kill as many people as you think. It will be regenerated to quickly. And that's assuming he even get the chance to shoot her. Her regenration is instant.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol, how? Pretty sure Gaara beat Mizukage in canon. Sand sensing detects clam which is then sealed, oil can't keep up with vast amounts of sand, Mizukage was almost sealed multiple times, Joki Boy leaves him as a sitting duck and Gaara can avoid its explosions by going airborne...gold dust isn't needed to win this battle..

Mizukage was almost sealed multiple times, yet he got out every, single, time. On his own, so that point doesn't help you. What do you mean by, oil can't keep up with vast amounts of sand? They fought in canon yet Gaara's sand was pretty much being hard countered by him. If more would have helped, pretty sure he would have been able to seal him without the Gold Dust business.

Joki Boy left him a sitting duck in the manga, but considering as long as it was around, Gaara couldn't finish the Mizukage off, it doesn't matter if he's a sitting duck.

Ay would outlast the clam summoning, tank/dodge Joki Boy explosions, and kill the mizukage in close combat as gengetsu can't properly liquify against raiton attacks

Ok, I'll agree here.

Danzo could summon Baku to suck up the clam's mist then slice up the clam with fuuton cutting attacks. Joki Boy just weakens the Mizukage and izanagi means it doesn't matter if Danzo gets caught up in the explosion. Hydrification would be a b*tch to deal with though, but I suppose Danzo can blow his liquified body parts all over the place with fuuton so they can't re-form

The clam's mist is a battlefield wide, omnidirectional Genjutsu. Baku's suction isn't omnidirectional, and it's constantly being produced, so sucking it up isn't going to work nor help. That leaves Danzo trapped, having to keep Izanagi on for the whole 10 minutes so the Mizukage doesn't kill him during the illusion.

Yeah, it weakens him, but if Joki Boy is blowing Danzo up continuously, he won't be able to attack the Mizukage, nor will he able to turn Izanagi off, and he can't permanently defeat Joki Boy, so after 10 minutes, it's GG. There's also the fact that taking him out is going to be a pain, and Danzo only has 10 minutes.

All of Danzo's Fuuton are cutting type Fuuton, they aren't going to blow him far.

 

[Beans2]

Mizukage was almost sealed multiple times, yet he got out every, single, time. On his own, so that point doesn't help you. What do you mean by, oil can't keep up with vast amounts of sand? They fought in canon yet Gaara's sand was pretty much being hard countered by him. If more would have helped, pretty sure he would have been able to seal him without the Gold Dust business.

Joki Boy left him a sitting duck in the manga, but considering as long as it was around, Gaara couldn't finish the Mizukage off, it doesn't matter if he's a sitting duck.

He didn't get out on his own, Joki Boy was what prevented him from getting sealed, twice

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This is what I mean by oil can't keep up with vast amounts of sand:

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. Gaara didn't even use larger scaled sand tsunamis which can be used to overwhelm the Mizukage to the point where oil can't hope to keep up. Gold dust is what was used to take care of Joki Boy, not the Mizukage himself. Gaara can

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and seal him up there where Joki Boy who remains grounded wouldn't pose a threat.

Ok, I'll agree here.




The clam's mist is a battlefield wide, omnidirectional Genjutsu. Baku's suction isn't omnidirectional, and it's constantly being produced, so sucking it up isn't going to work nor help. That leaves Danzo trapped, having to keep Izanagi on for the whole 10 minutes so the Mizukage doesn't kill him during the illusion.

Yeah, it weakens him, but if Joki Boy is blowing Danzo up continuously, he won't be able to attack the Mizukage, nor will he able to turn Izanagi off, and he can't permanently defeat Joki Boy, so after 10 minutes, it's GG. There's also the fact that taking him out is going to be a pain, and Danzo only has 10 minutes.

All of Danzo's Fuuton are cutting type Fuuton, they aren't going to blow him far.

You are probably right but Baku can turn himself in a circle so it sucks up mist from every direction. It has tiger limbs so it seems like it would be a fairly mobile summon rather than just a stationary vacuum.

 

[FemmeFatale]

And tsunade outlast him

 

[KidGamer65]

He didn't get out on his own, Joki Boy was what prevented him from getting sealed, twice

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Joki Boy is his jutsu, so technically it was on his own, so it doesn't really change my point.

This is what I mean by oil can't keep up with vast amounts of sand:

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. Gaara didn't even use larger scaled sand tsunamis which can be used to overwhelm the Mizukage to the point where oil can't hope to keep up. Gold dust is what was used to take care of Joki Boy, not the Mizukage himself. Gaara can

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and seal him up there where Joki Boy who remains grounded wouldn't pose a threat.

Oh, then yeah, that makes sense, but that's what Joki Boy is for. If he ever gets trapped, it blows it away every single time without fail, and that strategy isn't going to work. Gaara has to be able to catch and lift the Mizukage to a high enough altitude all before Joki Boy gets close enough to free him. Joki Boy is already faster than Gaara's Sand, and there's no reason it'd ever end up far away from the Mizukage's main body, so him being airlifted off the ground after being trapped, all before Joki Boy frees him isn't likely. Then there's the fact that they are in a forest, so it can jump off of trees to gain height.

You are probably right but Baku can turn himself in a circle so it sucks up mist from every direction. It has tiger limbs so it seems like it would be a fairly mobile summon rather than just a stationary vacuum.

But then more just takes it's place right afterwards, so it won't help regardless.

Baku is a tapir, it doesn't have tiger legs, just stripes.

 

[Beans2]

Joki Boy is his jutsu, so technically it was on his own, so it doesn't really change my point.


Oh, then yeah, that makes sense, but that's what Joki Boy is for. If he ever gets trapped, it blows it away every single time without fail, and that strategy isn't going to work. Gaara has to be able to catch and lift the Mizukage to a high enough altitude all before Joki Boy gets close enough to free him. Joki Boy is already faster than Gaara's Sand, and there's no reason it'd ever end up far away from the Mizukage's main body, so him being airlifted off the ground after being trapped, all before Joki Boy frees him isn't likely. Then there's the fact that they are in a forest, so it can jump off of trees to gain height.




But then more just takes it's place right afterwards, so it won't help regardless.

Baku is a tapir, it doesn't have tiger legs, just stripes.

Well, seeing that C3 explosion >>> Joki Boy explosion (which was blocked by

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), I don't see how the explosion would create much damage to an aerial sand shield of the size Gaara used against C3. After Joki Boy explodes once, it's a few more minutes until it explodes again which is a long enough time frame to let Gaara seal the mizukage. Also consider that this Mizukage isn't an Edo so he can't tank his own point-blank steam explosion unless hydrification somehow lets him do so.

 

[KidGamer65]

Well, seeing that C3 explosion >>> Joki Boy explosion (which was blocked by

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), I don't see how the explosion would create much damage to an aerial sand shield of the size Gaara used against C3. After Joki Boy explodes once, it's a few more minutes until it explodes again which is a long enough time frame to let Gaara seal the mizukage. Also consider that this Mizukage isn't an Edo so he can't tank his own point-blank steam explosion unless hydrification somehow lets him do so.

That was in a desert, and Gaara was Shukaku's Jin. His Sand control feats back then take a dump on his Sand control feats after losing Shukaku, at least when talking about pure scale. Besides, I thought that his goal was to seal the Mizukage? That is the sand that Joki Boy can blow up with his explosion, not the larger shields. He only has to maneuver around the larger stuff.

Considering he was never shown with damage afterward, either the sand he was trapped in softened the explosion, or hydrification let him tank.

 

[Bantos]

Tsunade, Gaara and Onoki take him.

 

[Beans2]

That was in a desert, and Gaara was Shukaku's Jin. His Sand control feats back then take a dump on his Sand control feats after losing Shukaku, at least when talking about pure scale. Besides, I thought that his goal was to seal the Mizukage? That is the sand that Joki Boy can blow up with his explosion, not the larger shields. He only has to maneuver around the larger stuff.

Considering he was never shown with damage afterward, either the sand he was trapped in softened the explosion, or hydrification let him tank.

none of this changes that Joki Boy will only let Mizukage escape once because Joki Boy can only explode every few minutes. Snatching up sealing tags is all Joki Boy can do, and Gaara has ways to work around that from happening

>Gaara makes sand pyramid
>Joki boy blows it up
>Gaara lifts Mizukage into the air and seals him up there

Sand tsunamis would sweep back Joki Boy if it attempts to follow as it has aoe too large for him to dodge.