Kakuzu takes a gauntlet

[Conspirator.]

Stops at hebi Sasuke.

 

[Zexion~]

Lol. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What the hell is that?

 

[KidGamer65]

What the hell is that?

:|

It's a shrugging smiley.

 

[Zexion~]

:|

It's a shrugging smiley.

Ohhhh I get it

He still beats Sasuke

 

[KidGamer65]

Ohhhh I get it

He still beats Sasuke

He doesn't though. Lol.

 

[Beans2]

1. Darui

2. Deidara

3. Three tomoe Kakashi

4. Hebi Sasuke

5. Hiashi

6. Kisame

7. Orochimaru (woman body)

8. Jiraiya

Beats the bolded

 

[Zexion~]

He doesn't though. Lol.

*sigh* One day

Beats the bolded

Lol

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Did someone say Jiraiya needs sage mode to beat Kakuzu?

 

[EliteKakashi]

We've got a nice mix of people who both severely overrate and severely underrate Kakuzu in this thread, I see.

 

[Zexion~]

Did someone say Jiraiya needs sage mode to beat Kakuzu?

Nah he still loses

 

[EliteKakashi]

Did someone say Jiraiya needs sage mode to beat Kakuzu?

Yes. His base arsenal isn't enough. Could give him a fight, but the elements would eventually become too much for just base Jiraiya and Bunta/Ken/whoever he summons to help.

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Nah he still loses

Jiraiya in base is more than enough for Kakuzu

 

[Zexion~]

Jiraiya in base is more than enough for Kakuzu

How so? lol I'd love to know?

 

[Beans2]

Lol

I know, it's hilarious how weak Kakuzu is.

 

[Zexion~]

I know, it's hilarious how weak Kakuzu is.

He's only weak if you base him off the horrible trolls Kishi put him through look more at his jutsu and you realize he's a Top 25 ( I don't know how strong everyone is by the end so probably 30 now) Shinobi

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Lol, Kakuzu isn't weak by any means, but Jiraiya is too much for him. If we assume that the fight starts @ mid distance, Jiraiya could/would start off by summoning Bunta to give himself the early advantage.

>Fuuton/Katon gets stalemated, perhaps overwhelmed by Gamayu Endan due to its sheer size
>The masks are pretty slow if memory serves, and so is the charge up time for Raiton (the airborne mask), so Bunta should be able to maneuver around its attacks. Clones can be made to combat said masks. Depending on the distance, Jiraiya could crush the raiton mask with Ranjishigami no Jutsu. If not, a tantō slash from Bunta should suffice.
>Yomi Numa/Toad Mouth Trap ensnares Kakuzu and the masks on the ground long enough to prep Food Cart Destroyer and finish the match.

 

[Zexion~]

>Fuuton/Katon gets stalemated, perhaps overwhelmed by Gamayu Endan due to its sheer size

Evaporated water instantly>Barely melting one layer of snake skin

>The masks are pretty slow if memory serves, and so is the charge up time for Raiton (the airborne mask), so Bunta should be able to maneuver around its attacks.

They all can fly/glide (Fly but some people don't believe) So they can always be in the air longer then bunta, I don't know what you mean charge up time, the fuuton is said to be instant activation I can get the scan if you'd like to take this that far? Seeing as the toads were crushed by one ST this fuuton should be the same, Also the raiton heart was only shown to charge in the anime in the manga he just shot it, either way you realize the jutsu are cast behind masks right? Jiraiya has no way of knowing whether they are charging or not making a deadly attack even deadlier with its unpredictable nature, Kakashi survived so long due to Pre-cog

Clones can be made to combat said masks. Depending on the distance, Jiraiya could crush the raiton mask with Ranjishigami no Jutsu. If not, a tantō slash from Bunta should suffice.

Clones? Lml Kakuzu has never shown to be low on stamina/chakra even after fighting around 10 opponents so he can spam jutsu. Need I get the scans of Kakuzu shitting on Naruto's clones which are > Jirayas as I don't believe he can make many, a tonto slash? Bunta's size is varied through the manga but either way the raiton should rip through him easily, especially since toads are quite liquidy

>Yomi Numa/Toad Mouth Trap ensnares Kakuzu and the masks on the ground long enough to prep Food Cart Destroyer and finish the match.

You realize yomi numa is mud right? Mud hardens when exposed to heat, Katon hardens it Kakuzu breaks out with Domu enhanced body parts. Toad mouth trap? Was never really explained what happened but his katon burns the crap out of the inside of the frog. Not to mention Jiraiya has no way to get through domu , and may be out classed in CQC with his threads

SM is rough but Kakuzu can still pull through

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Evaporated water instantly>Barely melting one layer of snake skin



They all can fly/glide (Fly but some people don't believe) So they can always be in the air longer then bunta, I don't know what you mean charge up time, the fuuton is said to be instant activation I can get the scan if you'd like to take this that far? Seeing as the toads were crushed by one ST this fuuton should be the same, Also the raiton heart was only shown to charge in the anime in the manga he just shot it, either way you realize the jutsu are cast behind masks right? Jiraiya has no way of knowing whether they are charging or not making a deadly attack even deadlier with its unpredictable nature, Kakashi survived so long due to Pre-cog



Clones? Lml Kakuzu has never shown to be low on stamina/chakra even after fighting around 10 opponents so he can spam jutsu. Need I get the scans of Kakuzu shitting on Naruto's clones which are > Jirayas as I don't believe he can make many, a tonto slash? Bunta's size is varied through the manga but either way the raiton should rip through him easily, especially since toads are quite liquidy



You realize yomi numa is mud right? Mud hardens when exposed to heat, Katon hardens it Kakuzu breaks out with Domu enhanced body parts. Toad mouth trap? Was never really explained what happened but his katon burns the crap out of the inside of the frog. Not to mention Jiraiya has no way to get through domu , and may be out classed in CQC with his threads

SM is rough but Kakuzu can still pull through

Just so you know dude, I don't care enough about debating to use manga scans. Perhaps the day will come where I will, but it certainly isn't today. Besides, it's been a while since I've read the manga so my knowledge is a tad rusty

- Kakashi's water wall wasn't as large as the Fuuton/Katon combo. Manda shed his skin b/c he would have sustained major damage otherwise. Besides, I'm pretty sure Toad Oil Flame Bullet will at least stalemate Fuuton/Katon. I think it may be larger, so it has the potential to overwhelm it.
- Atsugai gets countered by Jiraiya's katons. Please don't compare Shinra Tensei to Atsugai. The masks aren't that fast in flight, nor are they on the ground, so Jiraiya/Bunta clones would be enough to combat and kill them before they get their attacks off. Also, at the time, Jiraiya was superior to Naruto, so I can't agree with the shadow clones part. May I also add that Jiraiya's chakra levels are among the highest in the series...
- I realize that, which is why I said Yomi Numa/Mouth Bind would only serve as a distraction to prep a finishing move like FCD. Or, for good measure, Jiraiya could get Bunta to overflow the swamp with oil and have Kakuzu incinerate himself if he tries to do that.
- I agree with Kakuzu being superior in CQC, but that scenario won't happen with Jiraiya's ability to keep the battle at mid distance

 

[Zexion~]

Just so you know dude, I don't care enough about debating to use manga scans. Perhaps the day will come where I will, but it certainly isn't today. Besides, it's been a while since I've read the manga so my knowledge is a tad rusty

- Kakashi's water wall wasn't as large as the Fuuton/Katon combo. Manda shed his skin b/c he would have sustained major damage otherwise. Besides, I'm pretty sure Toad Oil Flame Bullet will at least stalemate Fuuton/Katon. I think it may be larger, so it has the potential to overwhelm it.
- Atsugai gets countered by Jiraiya's katons. Please don't compare Shinra Tensei to Atsugai. The masks aren't that fast in flight, nor are they on the ground, so Jiraiya/Bunta clones would be enough to combat and kill them before they get their attacks off. Also, at the time, Jiraiya was superior to Naruto, so I can't agree with the shadow clones part. May I also add that Jiraiya's chakra levels are among the highest in the series...
- I realize that, which is why I said Yomi Numa/Mouth Bind would only serve as a distraction to prep a finishing move like FCD. Or, for good measure, Jiraiya could get Bunta to overflow the swamp with oil and have Kakuzu incinerate himself if he tries to do that.
- I agree with Kakuzu being superior in CQC, but that scenario won't happen with Jiraiya's ability to keep the battle at mid distance

Very well then dont expect me to take this too seriously

Pretty sure Manda shed his skin because he was entangled with Katsuya, but either way it doesn't matter the size the Katon never even melted the skin on screen so what makes you think it would of harmed manda most likely just a precaution

? A small ST? I will compare it lml Kakuzu's fuuton exerts major force on the opponent, ST smacks them with the force different ways of applying it but same unit of damage

Jiraiya using katons quick enough is debatable, however if he does this you realize Kakuzu can simply smack him from behind with his raiton? Jiraiya has next to no sensing unless he puts up that barrier which he has no reason to, meaning Kakuzu's advantage in numbers becomes even more useful forcing Jiraiya into blocking a futon just to pierce him with Gian wouldn't be that hard,

Kakuzu's Katon trips up the opponent it could put the toads on their backs leaving them open to other jutsu, majorly open or they jump up and get whacked by gian as you can't dodge in mid-air as usual J-man supporters over-rate the summons >.>

FCD? Domu tanks, toads aren't known for had skin it may even pierce the toad he uses

Over flow the swamp with Oil? Domu tanks the heat regardless, however pretty sure the mud would negate the effect anyways that would merely be doing Kakuzu's job for him

His chakra levels? Why because of that drug scenario? not really he still tired against pain, Kakuzu has never shown to even waiver at all.

Realize how large this Katon + Fuuton is Look how large thee's tree's are

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Base alone is almost 7X a humans height look how high the jutsu raises

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And it was interrupted before it finished, Nah i'd say Kakuzu's is a bit bigger at least in hight not to mention the wind adds a bigger "Blast" Aspect to the jutsu then the oil does just Increasing the flames

Again J-man can only summon one toad which doesn't do enough to take out a heart that has such maneuverability Kakuzu's numbers take him out

 

[Ghost in the Shell]

Very well then dont expect me to take this too seriously

Pretty sure Manda shed his skin because he was entangled with Katsuya, but either way it doesn't matter the size the Katon never even melted the skin on screen so what makes you think it would of harmed manda most likely just a precaution

? A small ST? I will compare it lml Kakuzu's fuuton exerts major force on the opponent, ST smacks them with the force different ways of applying it but same unit of damage

Jiraiya using katons quick enough is debatable, however if he does this you realize Kakuzu can simply smack him from behind with his raiton? Jiraiya has next to no sensing unless he puts up that barrier which he has no reason to, meaning Kakuzu's advantage in numbers becomes even more useful forcing Jiraiya into blocking a futon just to pierce him with Gian wouldn't be that hard,

Kakuzu's Katon trips up the opponent it could put the toads on their backs leaving them open to other jutsu, majorly open or they jump up and get whacked by gian as you can't dodge in mid-air as usual J-man supporters over-rate the summons >.>

FCD? Domu tanks, toads aren't known for had skin it may even pierce the toad he uses

Over flow the swamp with Oil? Domu tanks the heat regardless, however pretty sure the mud would negate the effect anyways that would merely be doing Kakuzu's job for him

His chakra levels? Why because of that drug scenario? not really he still tired against pain, Kakuzu has never shown to even waiver at all.

Realize how large this Katon + Fuuton is Look how large thee's tree's are

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Base alone is almost 7X a humans height look how high the jutsu raises

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And it was interrupted before it finished, Nah i'd say Kakuzu's is a bit bigger at least in hight not to mention the wind adds a bigger "Blast" Aspect to the jutsu then the oil does just Increasing the flames

Again J-man can only summon one toad which doesn't do enough to take out a heart that has such maneuverability Kakuzu's numbers take him out

Umm, why would Manda shed his skin as a "precaution"? If he knew he wasn't going to get hurt that much, he wouldn't have wasted energy shedding his skin. Anyway, that's irrelevant, because at worst the two attacks will stalemate each other.

-Atsugai isn't as powerful as Shinra Tensei, so calm down.
-He actually can use Katon: Endan instantly, see his altercation with Konan before facing Pain. Like I said, clones can be made to combat the masks, it's not like Jiraiya is going to corner himself against 3 masks.
- Ranjishigami no Jutsu (which is also pretty quick) can be used to crush the masks mid air, whether the toad/toad clones are in a vulnerable position or not.
- Dude, I never mentioned anything about a drugged scenario, nor anything about Kakuzu's reserves. What I'm sayingis that Jiraiya's chakra reserves are massive, so he won't have any problem using chakra taxing jutsu. Getting tired against Pain? What? He looked ready to fight the next three paths after killing the first three vs. Pain...
- Domu isn't tanking either of those attacks. It's safe to say we'll just disagree on this, so whatever.
- Toad Oil Flame Bullet is large enough to incinerate a forrest.
- No, he can summon more Toads if he wants to, but he probably wouldn't need to if he has Bunta.