The only kages Obito would struggle against is Minato and Tobirama.

[SayWhat21]

i think he can handle minato and tobirama as a grown up since he has more experience since he fought minato when he was like 16

 

[vegetamilt]

Hashirama would destroy obito. The only person even close to hashirama is madara who is the strongest of all uchiha. His powers are considered almost God like

 

[Ababeel]

All of Hashirama's power is irrelevant against Obito though. It does not matter how much power he has if he can never land a hit on Obito. JJ SM Madara are several tiers above the likes of Hashirama, and yet he also failed against Kamui. Lol

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[Chuggs]

Kakashi rapes his half zetsu ass.

 

[vegetamilt]

people forget obito kamui has a flaw, he has to be solid to attack as well and SM is far for superior because it senses all movement.

 

[Demonic.]

All of Hashirama's power is irrelevant against Obito though. It does not matter how much power he has if he can never land a hit on Obito. JJ SM Madara are several tiers above the likes of Hashirama, and yet he also failed against Kamui. Lol

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I'll humor you. I agree firepower is irrelevant against Obito, but you're ignoring other techniques available. Btw, Are you actually implying MS Obito > JJ Madara because of Obito's intangibility? Lol

1.) SM already took a dump on FTG which took a dump on Kamui. (And NO Tobirama's FTG is the same speed as Minato's before you say Minato's FTG is faster than Tobirama's). With this in mind, SM Hashirama easily reacts to Obito.

2.) Hashirama can make Multiple Wood Clones (which Obito can't differentiate).
-If Obito warps a wood clone, he gets raped from both dimensions
-Hashirama can trick Obito with a clone feint. This would end up happening:

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3.) A mokuton clone sets up Jukai Kotan which bypasses Obito's 5 minute Kamui limit.
-The longer Obito stays intangible, the more the pollen will spread.
- A Katon would only end up making the pollen spread faster

This is a stomp match up. You don't need FTG to beat Obito.

 

[Ababeel]

=KidGamer69;18320976]I'll humor you. I agree firepower is irrelevant against Obito, but you're ignoring other techniques available. Btw, Are you actually implying MS Obito > JJ Madara because of Obito's intangibility? Lol

No, but rather the fact that Madara who by the way has sensing abilities much better than Hashi (who does not even have a single feat of sensing to begin with) and obviously much faster than Hashirama (who was as fast as old Hiruzen) couldn't touch Obito. It's foolish to think Hashi would.

1.) SM already took a dump on FTG which took a dump on Kamui. (And NO Tobirama's FTG is the same speed as Minato's before you say Minato's FTG is faster than Tobirama's). With this in mind, SM Hashirama easily reacts to Obito.

First of all, the whole SM is fan-fiction. And and second of all it came down to Madara's reaction speed to dodge Tobirama, not only his sensing, and even then Tobirama still dodged him. Then it got off-paneles, and we do not know what happened during that time.

2. I do not care about what you think of the jutsu. What I do care is what the manga telling us about. What we know as facts.

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”!!?” (Volume 53, Chapter 503)
Displaying astonishing skillfulness with “Hiraishin no jutsu”!!
Overwhelming the Masked Man that is the mastermind behind the Kyuubi Incident!!

A handsome man shining with natural-borne talent, like a blinding glint (purple lightning), time and space itself seem to stand still—.
Minato handles to perfection the “Hiraishin no jutsu” space-time ninjutsu that was invented by Nidaime Hokage Senju Tobirama, and learnt from Master Jiraiya the pride of being a ninja.
His achievements began 27 years ago with the “Jinchuuriki kidnapping prevention” in Kirigakure; during the 3rd Great Ninja War, he led inferior Konoha camps to victory for times too numerous to mention.
Praised among all ninja as the greatest in god-like speed, the honour of that valour fascinates even the elites of other villages.

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Hiraishin Ni no Dan / Flying Thunder God Level 2
Ninjutsu, A-rank, Offensive, Close-range
User: Namikaze Minato

Transcending time and space to reflect light is a single gallant Flash!

A technique that applies the “Hiraishin no Jutsu (Flying Thunder God Technique)”. In the moment of charging into the face of the opponent, throw a kunai and with that, CHARGE. Teleport to the location of the kunai that has flown to the opponent’s back, to vanish instantly from the opponent’s eyes and take their rear. The sudden disappearance of the enemy (yourself, the user), in addition to receiving an unexpected attack, will cause the opponent great confusion, a two-stage attack. It is an evolved variation of space-time ninjutsu!!

(Minato vs The Masked Man)
Instantly deliver (lit. rotate, spin) a flash of “Rasengan” to the rear! The opponent that has suffered an embarrassing defeat can only bow down to the ground!!

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飛雷神互瞬回しの術 Hiraishin Goshun Mawashi no Jutsu/


Ninjutsu

A-rank;Supplementary;All ranges

Users: Senju Tobirama and Namikaze Minato

At the same instant the Fourth takes the blow, the Second, who was behind Madara, unleashes the Flying Thunder God!

As two Flying Thunder Gods glitter, a miraculous combo is unleashed!

"A dream combo born the instant two Flying Thunder God users come together! It’s a fearsome combination of the Second Hokage producing a spacetime ninjutsu and the Fourth Hokage taking this technique and pushing it even higher. It’s a highly dangerous technique because there’s a chance of becoming the target and taking your ally’s hit as you do two Flying Thunder Gods at once. It’s a high level collaboration only possible with absolute trust in your partner when the two parties are miraculously in tune. Whoever becomes the target will bear the full brunt with no chance to escape or hide!"

First Appearance: Chapter #641
Anime Appearance: Naruto Shippūden Episode #379

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p. 270
Konoha
Hundred Leaf Collection #71

"I put a Marking on him."
Moving in the blink of an eye to where the Marking had already been placed, the “Hiraishin no jutsu (Flying Thunder God Technique)”!!
[Tobirama marked Obito, Volume 66, Chapter 641]

“Hiraishin no jutsu”, “Edo Tensei” and so on, regardless of the difficulty in their mastery and operation, stories about these jutsu continue to be handed down for generations to come. Such high-rank ninjutsu were created (invented!) by a certain expert in jutsu-development. It was Nidaime Hokage Senju Tobirama.

Inherited from Master to Disciple
Secret Story of the Creation of Hiden Ninjutsu

Tobirama’s developed jutsu were later inherited by a disciple, a user whose name was rising. Namikaze Minato improved the mastery of “Hiraishin no jutsu”, and thus took the nickname “The Yellow Flash”. The excellent jutsu was refined according to the disciple, who evolved it together with the era. The future of “Kagebunshin no jutsu (Shadow Clone Jutsu)” and “Rasengan” is dependent upon Naruto!?

[picture of Minato]
Minato’s “Rasengan” in due time, to his son…
"Yondaime Hokage…!!! What a coincidence… what fate! A miracle ♪”

So, yeah, your willingness to accept that or not is none of my business. I am basing my opinion of the thing I have.

3- It is foolish to even compare RT Madara abilities to Hashirama's. It is the same guy who fodderstompped Hashirama without even using his eyes. Also, Hashirama was NOT able to dodge Madara's black rods SIX times.

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So, yeah, Hashirama was not able to dodge an inferior madara, is not going to accomplish a feat that was accomplished by an even superior one. You can dream about it all you want though. Dreams are free. Lol

2.) Hashirama can make Multiple Wood Clones (which Obito can't differentiate).
-If Obito warps a wood clone, he gets raped from both dimensions
-Hashirama can trick Obito with a clone feint. This would end up happening:

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Yeah, that helped Naruto a lot, oh wait, it did not. Lol
and Obito has the sharingan anyway which can see through the clones.

3.) A mokuton clone sets up Jukai Kotan which bypasses Obito's 5 minute Kamui limit.
-The longer Obito stays intangible, the more the pollen will spread.
- A Katon would only end up making the pollen spread faster

Yeah, because Hashirama obviously knows what the Kamui is, and he knows its weakness as well. Which manga are you watching by the way? Because as far as I know Hashirama has NEVER seen Kamui before, so how is he going to know all those stuff about it? Lol

Also, Obito's Juubi's size fire jutsu will burn that down, so you may know.

This is a stomp match up. You don't need FTG to beat Obito.

Either FTG, or his other Kamui.
BM Naruto is in an entire different universe compare to Hashi when it comes to
1- speed
2- sensing
3- using clones

and none of the nonsense you said happened against Obito even though Naruto had experience with Kamui before, and Kushina told him about what happened in Minato Vs Obito as well. Not to mention having back up from Kakashi, B, and Gai!

Why it did not work, I wonder.

 

[Demonic.]

No, but rather the fact that Madara who by the way has sensing abilities much better than Hashi (who does not even have a single feat of sensing to begin with) and obviously much faster than Hashirama (who was as fast as old Hiruzen) couldn't touch Obito. It's foolish to think Hashi would.

No one can touch Obito when his Kamui is active. His Kamui is automatic when it is active, he tried to touch Rin here but phased trough her.

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If he wants to attack he turns off Kamui and that's when he's open to attack. And btw, what is the relevance of this? I never claimed Hashirama would touch Obito if you read what I originally wrote. Obito will warp a wood clone, which would render his kamui usless, or Flower Tree World bypasses Kamui and puts him to sleep.

First of all, the whole SM is fan-fiction.

How is it fan fiction?

Naruto's Sage Mode improved his reflexes and reaction
Kabuto's Sage Mode improved his reflexes and reaction

But, Hashirama's Sage Mode will not? Care to explain why? Is it just because you are biased? Lol

And and second of all it came down to Madara's reaction speed to dodge Tobirama, not only his sensing, and even then Tobirama still dodged him. Then it got off-paneles, and we do not know what happened during that time.

It was his Sage Mode........and Hashirama is on par with Madara, otherwise they wouldn't have been rivals and they were.

2. I do not care about what you think of the jutsu. What I do care is what the manga telling us about. What we know as facts.

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So, yeah, your willingness to accept that or not is none of my business. I am basing my opinion of the thing I have.

Nowhere does it say Tobirama's FTG is slower than Minato's. FTG is stated to be instant teleportation and compared to summoning techniques in the databook. How can one instant be slower than another instant?

3- It is foolish to even compare RT Madara abilities to Hashirama's. It is the same guy who fodderstompped Hashirama without even using his eyes. Also, Hashirama was NOT able to dodge Madara's black rods SIX times.

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So, yeah, Hashirama was not able to dodge an inferior madara, is not going to accomplish a feat that was accomplished by an even superior one. You can dream about it all you want though. Dreams are free. Lol

I suggest you reread the chapter. Edo Madara placed those rods on Hashirama, but at the same time Hashirama immobilized Edo Madara with wood dragon

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Hashirama could still move after Madara was immobilized

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After Madara was revived, he activated the rods to immobilize a weak Edo Hashirama:

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Yeah, that helped Naruto a lot, oh wait, it did not. Lol

SM Hashirama >>> War Arc SM Naruto

and Obito has the sharingan anyway which can see through the clones.

Sharingan can't see through clones.

Yeah, because Hashirama obviously knows what the Kamui is, and he knows its weakness as well. Which manga are you watching by the way? Because as far as I know Hashirama has NEVER seen Kamui before, so how is he going to know all those stuff about it? Lol

'm arguing Hashirama is superior to Obito, which means full intel. If Obito beats Hashirama simply because Hashirama has no intel on Kamui it doesn't mean Obito is superior to him.

Do you agree Hashirama beats him with intel on Kamui then?

Also, Obito's Juubi's size fire jutsu will burn that down, so you may know.

He needs to solidify to use Katon, so if he does that he will inhale pollen, or Hashirama would impale him by sprouting Mokuton under his feet.

and none of the nonsense you said happened against Obito even though Naruto had experience with Kamui before, and Kushina told him about what happened in Minato Vs Obito as well. Not to mention having back up from Kakashi, B, and Gai!

Why it did not work, I wonder.

Yes it did.

Clone got inside Kamui and this happened;

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Obito warps Kakashi and this happened:

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-Obito already confirmed Kakashi was holding back and he could have killed him already here.

 

[Ansatsuken]

He will have a problem with four Hokage actually by their feats and abilities

Hashirama, Tobirama, Minato, Naruto

Hashirama and Naruto is because they are capable to use clones and not just outnumber but create a confussion on Obito, plus Obito just having Kamui for travel but not snipe.

 

[synkross]

DMS Obito negs those fools

 

[Light up the Darkness]

Hashirama spanks that ass. Sage Mode > Space Time Techniques.

Naruto low diffs too.

ignoring manga Facts ?

what an idiot ..

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[Demonic.]

ignoring manga Facts ?

what an idiot ..

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I don't know if you're trying to be funny or if you're just a complete retard....

Read the title moron, it's obvious the OP wasn't talking about Juubi jins because a Juubi jin would neg Minato and Tobirama 1 on 1.

And you further proved my point - it took Obito becoming the Juubi host for Hashirama to admit inferiority to.

 

[itachi uchiha fiance]

No one can touch Obito when his Kamui is active. His Kamui is automatic when it is active, he tried to touch Rin here but phased trough her.

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If he wants to attack he turns off Kamui and that's when he's open to attack. And btw, what is the relevance of this? I never claimed Hashirama would touch Obito if you read what I originally wrote. Obito will warp a wood clone, which would render his kamui usless, or Flower Tree World bypasses Kamui and puts him to sleep.



How is it fan fiction?

Naruto's Sage Mode improved his reflexes and reaction
Kabuto's Sage Mode improved his reflexes and reaction

But, Hashirama's Sage Mode will not? Care to explain why? Is it just because you are biased? Lol



It was his Sage Mode........and Hashirama is on par with Madara, otherwise they wouldn't have been rivals and they were.



Nowhere does it say Tobirama's FTG is slower than Minato's. FTG is stated to be instant teleportation and compared to summoning techniques in the databook. How can one instant be slower than another instant?



I suggest you reread the chapter. Edo Madara placed those rods on Hashirama, but at the same time Hashirama immobilized Edo Madara with wood dragon

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Hashirama could still move after Madara was immobilized

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After Madara was revived, he activated the rods to immobilize a weak Edo Hashirama:

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SM Hashirama >>> War Arc SM Naruto


Sharingan can't see through clones.



'm arguing Hashirama is superior to Obito, which means full intel. If Obito beats Hashirama simply because Hashirama has no intel on Kamui it doesn't mean Obito is superior to him.

Do you agree Hashirama beats him with intel on Kamui then?



He needs to solidify to use Katon, so if he does that he will inhale pollen, or Hashirama would impale him by sprouting Mokuton under his feet.




Yes it did.

Clone got inside Kamui and this happened;

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Obito warps Kakashi and this happened:

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-Obito already confirmed Kakashi was holding back and he could have killed him already here.

this xplains a lot and clear my doubts too