[Discussion] Crocodile vs Gladius

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So now Crocodile is below fodder level?

Let's be serious guys. A hopeless match up is hopeless.
They are just faster than him, not stronger. How is this a hopeless match-up? If you actually read the manga and don't fap to Crocodile you should see that this is a close match-up.
 

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I'm not talking about just this matchup, your post said Gladius and Crocodile are close, so I'm asking you how they're close without some BS restriction.
I obviously meant if we don't include logia intangibility. If you can't handle the fact that logia intangibility is turned off, then go make your own Croc vs Gladius thread in which Croc keeps his logia intangibility. Also, sand is inorganic so Gladius might be able to pop Croc if he changes into sand.
 

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I obviously meant if we don't include logia intangibility. If you can't handle the fact that logia intangibility is turned off, then go make your own Croc vs Gladius thread in which Croc keeps his logia intangibility. Also, sand is inorganic so Gladius might be able to pop Croc if he changes into sand.
Then they aren't close in strength
 

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Let me ask you a question. Do you think removing Luffy's immunity to electricity during a Luffy vs Enel thread would also be BS?
Yes it would be. I like versus matchups, but removing a trait of a character when they've had the entire time to make a match-up, I don't get that. It'd be one thing if we knew what Croco was like before getting his DF and you used that version with no DF entirely, but things like ¨No Logia intangibility"make about as much as sense as ¨Garp vs Law, but Garp has no arms.¨
 

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Yes it would be. I like versus matchups, but removing a trait of a character when they've had the entire time to make a match-up, I don't get that. It'd be one thing if we knew what Croco was like before getting his DF and you used that version with no DF entirely, but things like ¨No Logia intangibility"make about as much as sense as ¨Garp vs Law, but Garp has no arms.¨
So would you place Pre-EL Luffy higher than Enel on a tier list?
 

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Irrelevant.

¨The stronger one isn't always the one that wins in a fight.¨
So would you agree that on a tier list (for the sake of time I will only have this tier list include VA levels). For this one, in order to give you an idea of where people in the VA level spectrum are placed, Luffy is an example of a top VA level fighter, Sanji is high VA level, Bartolomeo is mid VA level, and Brook is low VA level. Would you agree that Gladius and Croc should both be in mid VA level?
 

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So would you agree that on a tier list (for the sake of time I will only have this tier list include VA levels). For this one, in order to give you an idea of where people in the VA level spectrum are placed, Luffy is an example of a top VA level fighter, Sanji is high VA level, Bartolomeo is mid VA level, and Brook is low VA level. Would you agree that Gladius and Croc should both be in mid VA level?
What the hell does that have to do with Gladius not being able to harm Crocodile?
 

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You're the only person I've met who has problems with the idea of no logia intangibility. Just go along with it for this thread; also, since sand is inorganic, Gladius can pop Crocodile when he turns into sand.
I already explained to you why I've been talking about the Logia intangibility thing. How is this different than saying "Garp vs Law but Garp has no arms"?
 
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