It really doesn't make sense.

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If we look carefully, both Statements do not really work out. U_U

White Zetsu Body : Having a White Zetsu body makes you immune to MT. This will not work simply because Orochimaru had a WZ body and still fell under MT.

Being Dead : Also does not work, cause as OP said, Edos are vulnerable to Genjutsu and MT is a Genjutsu. Edos have Life Force as they have souls and their chakra can be absorbed by God Tree.

So, how were they immune ? One possible explanation is this theory :

Though, I the basis of the theory, RDS being Kaguya is outdated. It still works if the RDS is Hamura or any Ootstsuki (RDS has features of Ootstsuki) as all Ootstsuki could have been immune to MT simply because they helped Kaguya create MT (Sacrificing their bodies to become White Zetsu to first MT).
All random speculation though. Lol

The genjutsu was designed to turn living ppl into zetsu. It's really not that complicated on why they were immune.
 

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Gonna come out and say this, IT was never a good idea to begin with. It completely ruined Madara's and Obito's character and made Kaguya look sound and act retarded. Honestly what's the point of having power if there's no one to use it on ? And why need a Zetsu army when you've got COAT ?
 
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It's not a genjutsu by itself. First, it traps the user in a genjutsu, and then the God tree sucks out their life force and chakra. Edos have no life force nor chakra, so the god tree would clearly not latch onto them, which probably means they don't get trappedin the genjutsu either.
Even if we go by this, the genjutsu should have gotten them, even if they might not be able to turn into zetsu.
Kishi needed the Hokage alive so Minato could say his goodbye to Naruto i presume.
I think he just kept them alive just in case he could use them.
The genjutsu was designed to turn living ppl into zetsu. It's really not that complicated on why they were immune.

It's still a genjutsu. What wouldn't have worked is them turning into zetsu.
 

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I think he just kept them alive just in case he could use them.
If this was true why didn't he use them? This Manga was pre-wrote your talking like it was a live week to week thing he already had all this sketched and thought out.
 

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If we look carefully, both Statements do not really work out. U_U

White Zetsu Body : Having a White Zetsu body makes you immune to MT. This will not work simply because Orochimaru had a WZ body and still fell under MT.

Being Dead : Also does not work, cause as OP said, Edos are vulnerable to Genjutsu and MT is a Genjutsu. Edos have Life Force as they have souls and their chakra can be absorbed by God Tree.

So, how were they immune ? One possible explanation is this theory :

Though, I the basis of the theory, RDS being Kaguya is outdated. It still works if the RDS is Hamura or any Ootstsuki (RDS has features of Ootstsuki) as all Ootstsuki could have been immune to MT simply because they helped Kaguya create MT (Sacrificing their bodies to become White Zetsu to first MT).
All random speculation though. Lol
Can you imagine how edos white zetsu will look like, if you cant, that the answer, death peoples not suitable to be Zetsu, XD
 

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The genjutsu was designed to turn living ppl into zetsu. It's really not that complicated on why they were immune.

First, I am Lol' ing at the people who think that MT is not a genjutsu. MT creates a dreamworld, an illusionary world, and as such is a Genjutsu. Also, a variant of Tsukuyomi which is a genjutsu in itself.

As the OP said, Edos can fall under Genjutsu; so they can fall under MT too.

The Edos have Life Force (Souls) and the Shinju was shown to absorb Edo Madara's Susanoo. This howed that the Shinju can put the Edos in a Genjjutsu, wrap them up in it';s roots and absorb their Chakra.

If Edos don't have Life force = They can't use Chakra as it is Life Energy = Massive Plothole.

My explanation though is that Kishi didn't think this through and actually ended up contradicting himself.
 

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Even if we go by this, the genjutsu should have gotten them, even if they might not be able to turn into zetsu.

I think he just kept them alive just in case he could use them.


It's still a genjutsu. What wouldn't have worked is them turning into zetsu.

Obviously the genjutsu only effects living ppl so as to not waste time and chakra containing and trying to turn a zombie into a zetsu. And just because a particular genjutsu works on Edos don't mean they all will.
 

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First, I am Lol' ing at the people who think that MT is not a genjutsu. MT creates a dreamworld, an illusionary world, and as such is a Genjutsu. Also, a variant of Tsukuyomi which is a genjutsu in itself.

As the OP said, Edos can fall under Genjutsu; so they can fall under MT too.

The Edos have Life Force (Souls) and the Shinju was shown to absorb Edo Madara's Susanoo. This howed that the Shinju can put the Edos in a Genjjutsu, wrap them up in it';s roots and absorb their Chakra.

If Edos don't have Life force = They can't use Cjakra as it is Life Energy = Massive Plothole.

My explanation though is that Kishi didn't think this through and actually ended up contradicting himself.

I disagree, ppl are just applying incomplete logic to the situation. Just because we can't explain it didn't mean it's a plot hole.
 

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Obviously the genjutsu only effects living ppl so as to not waste time and chakra containing and trying to turn a zombie into a zetsu. And just because a particular genjutsu works on Edos don't mean they all will.

The Shinju will absorb everything Alive or Dead, beacuse it is controlled by the Will of Kaguya. And Kaguya wanted to make all chakra one. She won't discriminate between Edo and Live people.

And there is no way an Edo is breaking MT unless they have a Rinnesharingan.
 

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The Shinju will absorb everything Alive or Dead, beacuse it is controlled by the Will of Kaguya. And Kaguya wanted to make all chakra one. She won't discriminate between Edo and Live people.

And there is no way an Edo is breaking MT unless they have a Rinnesharingan.

Edos don't have to break it since they're immune. And evidently her priorities changed because the remaining edos roamed free up until she was defeated.
 

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Edos don't have to break it since they're immune. And evidently her priorities changed because the remaining edos roamed free up until she was defeated.

They are not Immune to MT imo. Even if they are not immune, Because they use chakra , they would still be caught in the Shinju's roots and would have to do a massive fight to prevent being absorbed. (Which clearly didn't happen).

Kaguya would have absorbed the Eddos regardless. The only reason why she did not was because in the end fight she switched dimensions and the Edos did not get caught in it. If she had not switched dimensions, Team 7 along with the Edos would have to fight against Kaguya/Shinju to prevent being absorbed.
 

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Obviously the genjutsu only effects living ppl so as to not waste time and chakra containing and trying to turn a zombie into a zetsu. And just because a particular genjutsu works on Edos don't mean they all will.

The genjutsu has no brain and cannot choose to do things. It casts a genjutsu, and once the genjutsu is casted it takes the people's chakra and turns them into zetsu. The edo have chakra, so it could still take away their chakra, just not turn them onto zetsu.

What you're saying is like saying that a fireball would not attack an edo because it wouldn't hurt them.

Every genjutsu used on an edo has worked besides IT. One would think the most powerful genjutsu would also work.
 

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The genjutsu has no brain and cannot choose to do things. It casts a genjutsu, and once the genjutsu is casted it takes the people's chakra and turns them into zetsu. The edo have chakra, so it could still take away their chakra, just not turn them onto zetsu.

What you're saying is like saying that a fireball would not attack an edo because it wouldn't hurt them.

Every genjutsu used on an edo has worked besides IT. One would think the most powerful genjutsu would also work.

Evidently the moon light doesn't effect edos, maybe because they lack a real central nervous system or something, I can't really answer why but edos can't be turned into zetsu which is the MAIN purpose of IT. IT not affecting edos makes perfect since and honestly even if it could be called a plot hole kishi could write something explaining why it works the way it does in 5 minutes. There's no purpose in worrying about it since it's over but just because you lack the knowledge on how the mechanics of a jutsu works doesn't mean anything other than the fact that we don't know how it works. IT isn't every other genjutsu and no other genjutsu turns ppl into humanoid slaves.
 

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Evidently the moon light doesn't effect edos, maybe because they lack a real central nervous system or something, I can't really answer why but edos can't be turned into zetsu which is the MAIN purpose of IT. IT not affecting edos makes perfect since and honestly even if it could be called a plot hole kishi could write something explaining why it works the way it does in 5 minutes. There's no purpose in worrying about it since it's over but just because you lack the knowledge on how the mechanics of a jutsu works doesn't mean anything other than the fact that we don't know how it works. IT isn't every other genjutsu and no other genjutsu turns ppl into humanoid slaves.

Kishi could literally draw Sarada getting the Rinnegan and Bolt getting Kurama powers and explain it. Doesn't mean it makes sense.

Doesn't matter what it's purpose is because it's still a genjutsu.
 

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Kishi could literally draw Sarada getting the Rinnegan and Bolt getting Kurama powers and explain it. Doesn't mean it makes sense.

Doesn't matter what it's purpose is because it's still a genjutsu.

All genjutsu aren't the same so that point means nothing.
 

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All genjutsu aren't the same so that point means nothing.

They all work the same. Manipulate the persons chakra through their senses. Some are stronger than others, and some have different purposes, they all work the same though.
 

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They all work the same. Manipulate the persons chakra through their senses. Some are stronger than others, and some have different purposes, they all work the same though.

Not completely true since there can be different mechanisms for triggering the chakra disruption, such as sound vs visual genjutsu. There may even be more factors involved and no one other than kishi should assume to think they know ALL it is to know on genjutsu.
 
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