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You mean Hashirama's specific DNA? Yeah, that's special. Nothing about the average Senju's is though.

Hashirama's DNA is still falls under senju DNA. Both his parents were senju.
 

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How to get into top-10 if you're a hopeless fodder:

1. Steal some senju DNA
2. Steal someone's sharingan or, if you find one, rinnegan
3. Steal a few bijuus and seal them inside of you

There you go, you're top-10 neg diff
 
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Yes, but when you say Senju DNA, you're referring to the average.

Not necessarily, madara and obito say senju cells more often than hashirama cells in the manga. Going by this simply saying senju DNA is the broad term. But I see what you mean.

It's not that senju cells aren't special it is that hashirama cells are more special. I am sure if madara couldn't have got his hands on hashirama cells he would have tried another senju or an uzumaki
 

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Not necessarily, madara and obito say senju cells more often than hashirama cells in the manga. Going by this simply saying senju DNA is the broad term. But I see what you mean.

It's not that senju cells aren't special it is that hashirama cells are more special. I am sure if madara couldn't have got his hands on hashirama cells he would have tried another senju or an uzumaki
They had no idea of reincarnation at the time though, which is why. I'm pretty confident that their DNA is nothing special at all though. If Madara were to go for someone else, he wouldn't have gotten anything special(besides an affinity for whatever that clansmen was). I couldn't say for sure though unless Zetsu and Madara had met before the final fight. If so, then Zetsu would have stated for specifically Hashirama.
 

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Nah, train with guy sensei is enough.
 

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They had no idea of reincarnation at the time though, which is why. I'm pretty confident that their DNA is nothing special at all though. If Madara were to go for someone else, he wouldn't have gotten anything special(besides an affinity for whatever that clansmen was). I couldn't say for sure though unless Zetsu and Madara had met before the final fight. If so, then Zetsu would have stated for specifically Hashirama.

Their DNA is special nagato was able to handle 2 rinnegan since he was a child with no ninja training, while obito who was an adult with uchiha and hashirama DNA was only able to handle one rinnegan and even then barely.

The databook made it clear that madara chose nagato because he was an uzumaki. Uzumaki have enormous chakra levels and life force. The databook even compared nagato's chakra levels to a bijuu. Kushina is another example need I list more feats?

True madara and obito knew nothing about reincarnation but to say senju/uzumaki DNA is nothing special goes against everything in the manga
 

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You don't become stronger training with Orochimaru, you get weaker, he gets stronger and takes your body.
 

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Kakashi is overall a better teacher than Oro imo. He was able to teach both Naruto and Sasuke elemental training in few days and was able to figure out best mode of training for Naruto.
 

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Kakashi is overall a better teacher than Oro imo. He was able to teach both Naruto and Sasuke elemental training in few days and was able to figure out best mode of training for Naruto.

It was Yamato who trained with Naruto. Kakashi is a terrible teacher. Just look at team 7. He focused only on Sasuke, completely leaving Naruto and Sakura behind.
 

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Kakashi is overall a better teacher than Oro imo. He was able to teach both Naruto and Sasuke elemental training in few days and was able to figure out best mode of training for Naruto.

It was Yamato who trained with Naruto. Kakashi is a terrible teacher. Just look at team 7. He focused only on Sasuke, completely leaving Naruto and Sakura behind.

What Nattana said. Asuma did more for Naruto when it came to grasping the concept of the wind element. Kakashi just sat on his ass and left Naruto to figure it out. Yamato did more work than Kakashi; since he had to concentrate on keeping the kyubi under control.

All Kakashi did was tell Naruto that the rasengan was incomplete and could be combined with an element. The multi shadow clone thing was a neat training trick but it was more a plot device to get Naruto to where he needed to be in the shortest amount of time. Kakashi could've been training Naruto like that since Part 1 but like Hiruzendid with Oro; Kakashi made his best student (Sasuke) his only priority.
 

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What Nattana said. Asuma did more for Naruto when it came to grasping the concept of the wind element. Kakashi just sat on his ass and left Naruto to figure it out. Yamato did more work than Kakashi; since he had to concentrate on keeping the kyubi under control.

All Kakashi did was tell Naruto that the rasengan was incomplete and could be combined with an element. The multi shadow clone thing was a neat training trick but it was more a plot device to get Naruto to where he needed to be in the shortest amount of time. Kakashi could've been training Naruto like that since Part 1 but like Hiruzendid with Oro; Kakashi made his best student (Sasuke) his only priority.

False. Kakashi didn't train naruto like that in part 1 cuz he needs yamato to keep kurama in check. Nothing about it was plot device.
Asuma's little tidbit did little to nothing given the fact that his 100+ clones is cutting training time down by entire years, and no kakashi is the reason why Naruto thought of two clones to get it right so he's the one that gave him the idea, building blocks and stepping stones to create frs.
He practically inceptioned him.
 

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False. Kakashi didn't train naruto like that in part 1 cuz he needs yamato to keep kurama in check. Nothing about it was plot device.
Asuma's little tidbit did little to nothing given the fact that his 100+ clones is cutting training time down by entire years, and no kakashi is the reason why Naruto thought of two clones to get it right so he's the one that gave him the idea, building blocks and stepping stones to create frs.
He practically inceptioned him.

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No, Kakashi didn't start to use Yamato and the sealing jutsu until Jiraiya warned Kakashi and Tsunade about the Kyubi chakra taking over Naruto when his emotions are heightened. Which is something that Jiraiya discovered when trying to train Naruto to control Kurama over the time skip. It's why he gave Kakashi those tags before leaving to help Gaara in the beginning of Part 2. Part 1 Kakashi seemed to have a problem with Naruto learning the rasengan, but Jiraiya rebutted Kakashi by point out Kakashi teaching Sasuke chidori. Naruto asked Kakashi to teach him chidori and Kakashi just hand waved his requests away. Saying it was too complicated for someone like Naruto.


Asuma explained the concept of the wind element to Naruto, what to imagine in your mind when trying to use it and why you would use a wind element along with a bladed weapon. It's why Kakashi told Naruto who to go ask about wind style, because Kakashi didn't know.

Tl;dr Kakashi is a bad sensei. Kakashi cared more about training Sasuke who was a genius like him, instead of focusing on his weaker students.
 
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