Right. My point still stands. I think there should be someone stronger than Sabo in the RA. The gap between Sabo & Dragon is too big, unless Kuma was the one to fill that gap and Sabo took his position.
[Discussion] DD Vs Mera Sabo
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Until Sabo gets more proficient with is new DF, it's Doflamingo's win high-extreme diff v_v
People overrate Sabo a lot IMO he hasn't shown any better feats than Doffy. If anything, they are equals more or less at best.
People overrate Sabo a lot IMO he hasn't shown any better feats than Doffy. If anything, they are equals more or less at best.
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I agree with you. DD isn't afraid of any admirals,he's already clashed with Kuzan and Fuji and if my memory serves me right he broke through Kuzans ice quite easily so DD it is,extreme diff
sabo high diff.why?thing is young sabo nearly equal to ace.two years back when mf war is going on we can assume that sabo=ace.but in a different way.ace with df and sabo with haki.imagine how much development he can gain during that period.now sabo got ace df but still havent mastered it but he can use it somehow but his df abilities not equal to the ace df abilities.but he has better haki than ace.we didnt see ace using haki during pre ts.marco = admiral or nearly = admiral.so the thing is sabo 2nd in command.he should nearly equal to the marco.i think he can beat mingo high diff.
So just because he clashed with and isn't scared of an admiral he's >Sabo? Makes no sense. You must of forgot Sabo clashed for a longer time with Fuji. And all DD did was get his kick blocked by his sword, not even a fight. But Fuji took Sabo seriously unlike DD. And with the mera, Sabo could replicate breaking out of that ice also. DD has nothing over Sabo for people to say he wins, when we all know he's going to be defeated by Luffy.
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Of course we know Luffy is going to win,he's the protagonist afterall. Sabo just had his df like a few chapters ago,you can't expect him to have mastered it uptown doffy's lvl . The only reason Sabo stands a chance is because of his superior haki but his df is nothing yet. And since haki cancels df, it boils down to endurance and I believe that's where doffy will win it and besides,we all know how cunny he is
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Law was able to strike Doffy with Injection Shot through their emotional ties, it was psychological manipulation. Sabo doesn't have that option. Not only that, but Injection Shot was superfluous to Doflamingo. Nothing but a Garp and Luffy situation at MF again. You have no idea how Luffy is gonna defeat Doffy or if it's gonna be all him or not. ¨Luffy is gonna beat DD!¨ isn't a viable argument at all.
I say it could go either way high diff. The main reason people say Sabo>Doffy is because of Doffy's reaction to Fujitora's meteor, but Sabo had similar reactions in his fight as well. Not only that, but Doffy reacted the way he did not because he was scared and couldn't handle it(he clearly did, come on now), but because Fujitora was attacking him when he should be on his side as well. Comparing them through Fujitora is a braindead tactic, Doffy hasn't even ever fought Fuji minus a single kick from a single panel.
Doffy's strings have already shown resistance to fire. Sanji's Diable Jambe did absolutely nothing for him. I can see why one would assume that Sabo could just turn into fire and slip out from the space in between the strings, but it's been made painfully clear that Doffy's string control doesn't work by wrapping strings around you and controlling you like a puppet. If that was the case, he wouldn't be able to control all the people he's controlling right now in Dressrosa, especially not in panels where he's combating Luffy and Law or sitting around, flipping a key in the air. We have no idea how Doffy's powers work, so we don't know Sabo is immune or will break free if caught.
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sabo is clearly strong but so overrated. what has he done anyway to put him above doflamingo? He couldnt even touch fujitora.
Doflamingo could have easily killed both Law and Luffy at the same time thx to plot he chose not to.
Doflamingo could have easily killed both Law and Luffy at the same time thx to plot he chose not to.
Well I guess its reasonable to say that it could go either way. I think that Sabo is going to be the winner though. And yeah I'm not sure if Luffy is going to beat DD alone. If he would that would mean he's close to Sabo which I kind of doubt. But the way it seems, injured Law is going to fight Trebol and teleport him somewhere else. Which leaves Luffy and DD. BUT that may not happen and Law still might fight with Luffy. Only Oda knows for sure what's going to happen.
What feats had doffy ever shown to be considered above Sabo? The guy is getting pierced around by a beaten up and shot'ed down Law, while in the first scenario he was able to beat again a beaten up law before by fuji & dofla duo, at least till now he hasnt even beaten law in a fair fight, does someone like that sound around sabo's level?
Yeah DD just has more feats, but his portrayal doesn't put him over Sabo. I find it more likely that Sabo is stronger but not by a huge amount. DD only got hurt so much by Law because of his frustration of him being a D.
That doesnt mean anything, a fighter of his caliber shouldnt be caught off guard by someone like a wounded law really, to tell u the truth I had thought dofla was stronger but it doesnt seem so the more dressrosa ac goes the more weaker he get for me, especially this time when law was fighting in equal grounds to dofla until he got his hand cut off.
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It's obvious that Doflamingo is not in a right mental state. Emotional attachments and his psychological state can hinder his performance. It's the same reason Luffy was able to punch Garp and send him flying with blood leaking from his face. The only difference is that Doffy's emotional attachment and psychological state is routed with anger and being betrayed, while Garp's was love and concern for his family. To discredit Doffy because he got hit with that Injection Shot means you have to discredit Garp for being punched as well. After all, both attacks while drawing blood and appearing to do damage were superfluous.
That's a pretty shit comparison u got there, no offense tho.
These two are total different cases, as I said a post before if someone on dofla level is getting caught off guard because of his mental state to a beaten up law than he isnt as strong as we originally tought, the case of garp was different, garp no matter the mental state if he ever wanted to give a punch to luffy he would neg luffy in that bridge the same way he couldnt decide how if he is going to attack marco or no because of ace but when he decided he was able to blitz a top tier, the only reason he couldnt hit luffy is because of his attachment of love to him as a grandfather, u can find the chapter and see how garp closed his eyes and was a sitting duck to luffy the case of dofla is different, the guy has no attachment to law whatsoever if he was able to kill his brother & father in cold blood, he isnt the guy who is affected by these kind of petty thing's, he even said that he wanted to kill law so bad, the guy cut off his hand and drew a gun trying to kill him, it' not about mental state its about having not enough power to do so, as I said before the anger doffy is building up should not hinder his performance for bad but instead for good, a bloodlusted char is actually stronger than a calm one, ill give u the WB vs Akainu example.
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You actually aren't saying anything different from what I was in a way that wasn't contradictory to yourself. Garp's mental state, no matter what it is, wouldn't stop him from neg diffing Luffy, and yet that's exactly what happened. That's exactly what the bolded part means you're saying.
The comparison is fair because it displays two scenarios where someone, despite being clearly stronger than the someone else, ended up being struck by that person because of their emotions affecting their mental state with both attacks being too weak to actually damage the person significantly.
Doffy killed his father and brother, yes, but that doesn't mean he didn't feel anything while doing so. His expression while killing Rocinante clearly displayed that the ordeal had an emotional effect on him. He wants to brutally kill Law, but he also commented that it was a shame he had to do so, meaning he'd prefer if he didn't have to do so. He said he thought of Law as though he were like his little brother. These mean emotional attachments, regardless of how unmerciful and vengeful Doffy is. No way around that. This obviously isn't petty shit to Doffy, otherwise he wouldn't be so upset about it. You're using the term petty shit to describe all that's happening now because Doffy used that to describe what happened in Dressrosa ten years ago, evoking a sense of familiarity to those who read your post to try and force pseudo-agreement because it gives off a sense of ¨That sounds right¨ due to the familiarity, but I digress.
Yeah so where would you rank DD a low Top tier or a High tier? Law was injured and still did some good damage to him. Law is probably >Luffy at the moment. So maybe he just got stronger. Or maybe his mentality just really got to him. I quite frankly don't know why DD got injured at all.
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