[VS] Gai and Hiashi vs 6POP

[iNotorious]

Hiashi has rotation, rotation can benefit team 1 a lot.

 

[Draegod]

Ok, I'm not going to argue whether or not an air palm can repel/deflect an ST. However, I believe it is quite obvious that a vacuum palm would easily overpower ST, and that's all that I am getting at. What is it that 6POP will do when Hiashi uses his vacuum palm and has the added force of the ST hitting them?

Or Rotation Could counter ballance the Repel effect of Shinra tensei since not even the Juubi's Tail/Hand even made a super small version budge. The summons are simply exploded with Gentle Palm, and Taijutsu is also in Hiashi and Gais favor since Gai is too fast and Hiashi Simply Replicates Naruto's Frog fu with Full body Blow if they Dodge his standard strikes.

Now that's all to say if the two can kill off before CT comes into play, Or the Gedo Mazo.. Then it's GG!

 

[Apêx1]

Or Rotation Could counter ballance the Repel effect of Shinra tensei since not even the Juubi's Tail/Hand even made a super small version budge. The summons are simply exploded with Gentle Palm, and Taijutsu is also in Hiashi and Gais favor since Gai is too fast and Hiashi Simply Replicates Naruto's Frog fu with Full body Blow if they Dodge his standard strikes.

Now that's all to say if the two can kill off before CT comes into play, Or the Gedo Mazo.. Then it's GG!

Indeed, and Hiashi's rotation is so damn massive compared to other Hyuuga rotations, it's not even funny.

And I don't see why Hiashi cannot destroy the orb with Vacuum palm since he has full intel. It's not as durable as people make it seem since its gravitational field is around the orb instead of the epicentre of it. So there's no force actually pushing against it. Gedo Mazo would rape if Nagato could control it, but unfortunately for him he cannot control it, and the soul dragon's are not hitting the likes of Hiashi or 6G Gai's speeds (Hiashi does not have great speed feats, but implicatively he should be damn fast given his chakra control, chakra quantity and chakra potency).

 

[BlacLord™]

I'm debating this with myself...

On the one hand, SM Naruto with prep, summons and full intel got shat on by a vastly drained set of Paths once Deva got back into action.

On the other hand, Gai and Hiashi are no joke and V2 Naruto with six tails repelled ST back at Deva... Hiashi created a Vacuum Palm large enough to match the size of the Juubi's tail (thereby completely dwarfing any human) and strong enough to repel it's attack...

I see the Six Paths taking this high-diff... give Gai Kyoumon and I say the scales tip and they most likely win.


As for scenario 2, I doubt Darui adds much. His best attacks are Black Panther (probably end up the same way as Tsuiga) and Laser Circus (couldn't damage Sasuke's incomplete Susano'o/as Black Panther).

 

[Apêx1]

I'm debating this with myself...

On the one hand, SM Naruto with prep, summons and full intel got shat on by a vastly drained set of Paths once Deva got back into action.

On the other hand, Gai and Hiashi are no joke and V2 Naruto with six tails repelled ST back at Deva... Hiashi created a Vacuum Palm large enough to match the size of the Juubi's tail (thereby completely dwarfing any human) and strong enough to repel it's attack...

I see the Six Paths taking this high-diff... give Gai Kyoumon and I say the scales tip and they most likely win.


As for scenario 2, I doubt Darui adds much. His best attacks are Black Panther (probably end up the same way as Tsuiga) and Laser Circus (couldn't damage Sasuke's incomplete Susano'o/as Black Panther).

Gai with 7th Gate would solo this since he was capable of briefly putting Juubi Jin Madara on the defensive. No one is reacting to that level of speed.

Darui's Ranton would still be a terrible match-up for 6POP since it can be fired at Preta who would set up his absorption, and then spin around him to hit Naraka Path. Meanwhile Gai is blitzing Preta Path who cannot stop his punch while his absorption barrier is up. Deva attempting to stop Gai with ST would result in Hiashi stopping the ST with Vacuum Palm. In S2 Team 1 would have an answer to practically everything 6POP have to offer.

 

[super yang]

6pop wins low diff.
gai gets 1-shot by shinra tensei from the backlash on his already stressed body.

hiashi is useless here w/ all the zombies

 

[Beans2]

Ok, I'm not going to argue whether or not an air palm can repel/deflect an ST. However, I believe it is quite obvious that a vacuum palm would easily overpower ST, and that's all that I am getting at. What is it that 6POP will do when Hiashi uses his vacuum palm and has the added force of the ST hitting them?

Lol? You will have to explain why an air palm would deflect ST otherwise the rest of your post doesn't make sense. You also ignored my question how does Hiashi perceive ST/react to it with air palms?

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

Pain stomps if gai can't use 7 gates, even with 7 gates they would have a hard time.

 

[Apêx1]

Lol? You will have to explain why an air palm would deflect ST otherwise the rest of your post doesn't make sense. You also ignored my question how does Hiashi perceive ST/react to it with air palms?

Unless Naruto's Kyuubi mode has enough strength to stand still when a Juubi tail slaps it, there's nothing to argue here. Hiashi's Vacuum air palm threw a Juubi tail back like it wasn't even there (my bad if you thought I meant normal air palm, as it seems to be the case). He has full intel, once Deva's hand reaches out Hiashi acts instantly. And the only time chakra build up will occur with Deva will be when he's using ST. Neji showed that the Byakugan can perceive chakra build up and act from an early point., so Hiashi does the same against Deva.

 

[Made in Heaven]

6POP High diff

 

[Beans2]

Unless Naruto's Kyuubi mode has enough strength to stand still when a Juubi tail slaps it, there's nothing to argue here. Hiashi's Vacuum air palm threw a Juubi tail back like it wasn't even there (my bad if you thought I meant normal air palm, as it seems to be the case). He has full intel, once Deva's hand reaches out Hiashi acts instantly. And the only time chakra build up will occur with Deva will be when he's using ST. Neji showed that the Byakugan can perceive chakra build up and act from an early point., so Hiashi does the same against Deva.

The fact that Shinra Tensei isn't a solid or tangible object unlike the juubi's tail completely destroys your argument. CST would obliterate them both, a vacuum palm stopping a village buster is laughable

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

Honestly, team 1 doesn't have a counter to chibaku tensei, they don't use ninjutsu.

 

[Apêx1]

The fact that Shinra Tensei isn't a solid or tangible object unlike the juubi's tail completely destroys your argument. CST would obliterate them both, a vacuum palm stopping a village buster is laughable

How does it destroy anything. The fact remains that Kyuubi was able to stand in his place and thus repelled it. It being tangible or not is irrelevant, because Kyuubi still lacks the ability to stand still when a Vacuum air wall palm hits him. So unless you are suggesting he can, there's nothing to debate here. CST would not stop an Air palm, I never suggested that. However, neither would die from it and it would be completely out of character for Deva to use CST against 2 opponents in the first place, so it's irrelevant.

 

[Amaterasu]

6POP takes it

 

[Beans2]

How does it destroy anything. The fact remains that Kyuubi was able to stand in his place and thus repelled it. It being tangible or not is irrelevant, because Kyuubi still lacks the ability to stand still when a Vacuum air wall palm hits him. So unless you are suggesting he can, there's nothing to debate here. CST would not stop an Air palm, I never suggested that. However, neither would die from it and it would be completely out of character for Deva to use CST against 2 opponents in the first place, so it's irrelevant.

Because senpou:rasenshuriken >>>> air palm and shinra tensei repelled FRS with ease. Not seeing how vacuum air palm does jack against Shinra Tensei.

 

[Apêx1]

Because senpou:rasenshuriken >>>> air palm and shinra tensei repelled FRS with ease. Not seeing how vacuum air palm does jack against Shinra Tensei.

What the actual ****. Rasenshuriken is not doing shit to Vacuum air palm dude. It repelled the entire Juubi's tail, what the hell is FRS going to do with such a small AOE? Shinra Tensei dispersed FRS because it stopped its spin, it didn't physically push FRS backwards. And regardless of this, Kyuubi still repelled the Shinra Tensei. Stop deviating the topic because it's not getting you anywhere. Kyuubi repels Shinra Tensei. Juubi tail slaps the Kyuubi 1000 meters away. Vacuum air palm slaps Kyuubi 1000000 meters away. Vacuum Air Palm ploughs through Shinra Tensei like it's not even there. Don't see what you are getting at here, but there's obviously nothing to debate in this sense, because the Juubi tail>>>a 6 tailed Kyuubi. No comparison whatsoever. The Juubi's fingers were literally

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around Hachibi, and that was v1 Juubi. Tails are the strongest part of any Bijuu, and they still were repelled by Vacuum air palm. And just to give you some perspective, Juubi in v1 flicked away a TBB with a finger which has far more momentum than a FRS.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Chibaku Tensei. ​