Argument on why Madara can beat Naruto and Sasuke indivually (Actual Argument)

[Mikeuhsomething36]

It's called evading the Rasenshuriken or using ST to stop it in it's tracks and like I said before Madara can see through clones so he goes after the original. The clones are countered by Mokuton clones.

Madara just makes his Chibaku Tensei bigger in which Naruto would need to gather Natural energy for his two massive Rasenshuriken but by that time Madara would've already casted IT.

I love how you ignored unrivaled strength. Even if madara made bigger ones Naruto would just blitz past them. The only reason Naruto destroyed the satellite ones was so it wouldn't hit Sakura, obito, and lakashi as collateral. Sasuke on the other hand didn't even care so he went after madara. Naruto as seen against kaguya would blitz those meteors. And why would he use mokuton clones when he has limbo??????? Naruto clones could effortlessly hold off madara's limbos. Naruto doesn't even care if he sees the original, the plan is to neg and surround madara. Which he can, a full health Naruto would do to madara what he did to obito. Unrivaled strength fodderizes him. Not to mention the other tail beast abilities Naruto has at his disposal. If naruto's intent was to kill, madara would get negged, not to mention the power of plot is great.

 

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[Omar19992010]

I love how you ignored unrivaled strength. Even if madara made bigger ones Naruto would just blitz past them. The only reason Naruto destroyed the satellite ones was so it wouldn't hit Sakura, obito, and lakashi as collateral. Sasuke on the other hand didn't even care so he went after madara. Naruto as seen against kaguya would blitz those meteors. And why would he use mokuton clones when he has limbo??????? Naruto clones could effortlessly hold off madara's limbos. Naruto doesn't even care if he sees the original, the plan is to neg and surround madara. Which he can, a full health Naruto would do to madara what he did to obito. Unrivaled strength fodderizes him. Not to mention the other tail beast abilities Naruto has at his disposal. If naruto's intent was to kill, madara would get negged, not to mention the power of plot is great.

Naruto's not gonna be blitzing Madara for a number of Reasons

1. How is he gonna do it with CT raining down on him
2. Mokuton clones and Limbo clones intercept him
3. Madara puts up Susano'o which counters the Blitz

He'd use Mokuton Clones because unlike Limbo clones they can actually use Jutsu unlike the Limbo clones who have shown to only be able to use Taijutsu and we've seen Edo Madara use 25 of them which could use Susano'o, It's kind of obvious Rikudo Madara's Wood clones are way stronger than Edo Madara's Mokuton clones.

Last time I checked Madara's Limbo clones were the last one's standing when him and Naruto's Shadow clones faced off. Sure I admit the Naruto's clones are good but when Madara can tell clones apart and he does CST which makes all the clones disappear there not even worth mentioning.

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

Naruto's not gonna be blitzing Madara for a number of Reasons

1. How is he gonna do it with CT raining down on him
2. Mokuton clones and Limbo clones intercept him
3. Madara puts up Susano'o which counters the Blitz

He'd use Mokuton Clones because unlike Limbo clones they can actually use Jutsu unlike the Limbo clones who have shown to only be able to use Taijutsu and we've seen Edo Madara use 25 of them which could use Susano'o, It's kind of obvious Rikudo Madara's Wood clones are way stronger than Edo Madara's Mokuton clones.

Last time I checked Madara's Limbo clones were the last one's standing when him and Naruto's Shadow clones faced off. Sure I admit the Naruto's clones are good but when Madara can tell clones apart and he does CST which makes all the clones disappear there not even worth mentioning.

Until madara shows the ability to use susano then you can argue that, until then it's a fanfic. And I already answered point one...naruto could easily just run over them, or simply blitz past them. I already addressed this to completion in my last post. Naruto didn't blitz past the CT because he didn't want Sakura and kakashi getting caught as collateral. Other than that, how does he not????? Also he can use the titanic kage bush in to keep limbo clones busy. Not to mention kyuubi avatar. Databook states that the limbos can do anything the original can do. If mokuton was more effective, madara would be using it over limbo...your third point is a fanfic...i could list a number of counters, but I'm listing one unrivaled strength.

With all due respect, I DID say DISTRACT plus Naruto would most likely have a larger quantity. And please...tell me you're not serious.....if you use logic like that then I might as well say why didn't Naruto fight the juubi alone and solo it since the juubi could tell who Naruto was and wanted him dead........no, just because someone can tell real from fake doesn't make the fake any less effective. You have failed not only to rebutt most of my points but the ones you are trying to rebut are either with fanfics or you just over or underestimating madara's abilities at the same time.....which once again....is odd. The clones would handle and take on madara or at least distract him. They were pretty darn effective against him during the brief scrimmage. The universal shadow clones would be more than capable of doing something. Last time I checked limbos>mokuton because it's a freaking rinnegan tech, plus it has noticeably more durability than a wood clone. Madara using susano is a fanfic...thats like me saying kumai juubito gg when obito stated he couldn't even use that...

 

[Benjamin King]

Actually, it is a fact; not an argumentation.

 

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Until madara shows the ability to use susano then you can argue that, until then it's a fanfic. And I already answered point one...naruto could easily just run over them, or simply blitz past them. I already addressed this to completion in my last post. Naruto didn't blitz past the CT because he didn't want Sakura and kakashi getting caught as collateral. Other than that, how does he not????? Also he can use the titanic kage bush in to keep limbo clones busy. Not to mention kyuubi avatar. Databook states that the limbos can do anything the original can do. If mokuton was more effective, madara would be using it over limbo...your third point is a fanfic...i could list a number of counters, but I'm listing one unrivaled strength.

With all due respect, I DID say DISTRACT plus Naruto would most likely have a larger quantity. And please...tell me you're not serious.....if you use logic like that then I might as well say why didn't Naruto fight the juubi alone and solo it since the juubi could tell who Naruto was and wanted him dead........no, just because someone can tell real from fake doesn't make the fake any less effective. You have failed not only to rebutt most of my points but the ones you are trying to rebut are either with fanfics or you just over or underestimating madara's abilities at the same time.....which once again....is odd. The clones would handle and take on madara or at least distract him. They were pretty darn effective against him during the brief scrimmage. The universal shadow clones would be more than capable of doing something. Last time I checked limbos>mokuton because it's a freaking rinnegan tech, plus it has noticeably more durability than a wood clone. Madara using susano is a fanfic...thats like me saying kumai juubito gg when obito stated he couldn't even use that...

everything u said is pure assumption. naruto could do this, he could do that.. actually in the real manga by kishimoto this is what happened

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25 woodstyle clones using susano
4limbo clones using susano (it was stated in the databook that limbo clones are an exact replica of madara which means they have all his jutsus.)

thats 30 madara's all using susano. or it could be 30 madaras all using CT or 30 madaras all using JUUBI tail beast bomb.

madara negs naruto easily.