And that's where you are wrong. He wasn't, he was portrayed to be above every man that sails the seas, not every creature. So moot point is moot. And Shanks did nothing, he'd get his ass handed to him pretty badly given the fact that he's weaker than Mihawk, whose most definitely weaker than Kaido. You claiming Shanks didn't break a sweat and made it to MF in no time has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read.
[Discussion] Kaidou vs Pre TS Admirals
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The guy is going to be the first major villain in NW, in order for luffy to grow stronger while akainu is going down on the final war or pre-final war, story wise akainu is way more important than kaido will ever be, he is just going to be the next boss nothing more or less, Im not the guy that jumps out on wild conclusions that Yonko>Admirals just because we had a WB, but people tend to forget that the guy was the WSM, a league on his own, yonko's were never considered formidable just them alone but its because they are strong and have a massive man power and other strong captains so thi is how I see it:
Kaido<Akainu
Kaido = Aokiji
Kaido>= Kizaru
Kaido> Fujitora, Green Bull.
Kaido<Akainu
Kaido = Aokiji
Kaido>= Kizaru
Kaido> Fujitora, Green Bull.
LMFAO! wtf is this thread? Admirals are being so damn overrated here!! I understand all of you are washed away with the marnies strongest shit.
But a yonkou is no joke. Rayleigh kept Kizaru at the tip of his sword after almost 15 years of not fighting at all. And from rayleigh's speach he could do more than hold an admiral at bay in his prime.
Kaidou *****-slaps Kizaru
Kaidou stomps pre=skip Aokiji (though he will mid-diff post skip aokiji)
Kaidow mid-diffs pre-skip Akainu.
But a yonkou is no joke. Rayleigh kept Kizaru at the tip of his sword after almost 15 years of not fighting at all. And from rayleigh's speach he could do more than hold an admiral at bay in his prime.
Kaidou *****-slaps Kizaru
Kaidou stomps pre=skip Aokiji (though he will mid-diff post skip aokiji)
Kaidow mid-diffs pre-skip Akainu.
Uzumaki Macho
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WB had the hype to be
1- The strongest man in the world
2- The strongest pirate in the world(in case you think the first one doesn't include Kaido, this second one does)
3- The closest to the one piece(having the sufficient strength to reach Raftel, not Kaido)
Also, even if you take his title literally(without considering Nami's reaction at all), for all we know he only got that title after WB died and if it happened, that title means nothing when taking old legends like WB into account. There are also theories that go around the fact Kaido was his previous first/second division commander. He can't be stronger than Whitebeard.
Creature is often used as a synonym for animal. Strongest creature, means nothing in OP verse, when zoro can take down a living dragon. But consider the Sea-kings at Gyojin island and things get skewed a bit, but still don't make much of a hype.
If we look at OP verse then being the strongest creature does not mean much unless you include humans into the equation.
If we look at OP verse then being the strongest creature does not mean much unless you include humans into the equation.
I don't recall the "strongest pirate" in the world in the translations I've seen. But if it's true then I suppose it would be as Riker says; up to interpretation.
He could've got that title after Wb's death, true. However, the fact that he wanted to go and attack WB confidently says a lot. And even then, if he got it after WB's death he'd still be above Admirals and fleet admirals,
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I believe he can beat Fuji and Kizaru.But he can't beat Akainu and Aokiji imo.Those guys have the best feats (or Akainu rather but Kuzan fought him to extreme diff).Their DF's are also the two most lethal DF's in the world so far, more so than even Gura Gura no mi.This is shown when a bloodlusted quake only temporarily put Sakazuki down while 'Meigou' erased half of WB's face.And Kuzan has his core freeze.
Kaido vs Akainu-Akainu extreme diff
Kaido vs Aokiji-Aokiji extreme diff
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3 Admirals rape any character in One Piece.Including Roger/Prime Whitebeard.
I believe he can beat Fuji and Kizaru.But he can't beat Akainu and Aokiji imo.Those guys have the best feats (or Akainu rather but Kuzan fought him to extreme diff).Their DF's are also the two most lethal DF's in the world so far, more so than even Gura Gura no mi.This is shown when a bloodlusted quake only temporarily put Sakazuki down while 'Meigou' erased half of WB's face.And Kuzan has his core freeze.
Kaido vs Akainu-Akainu extreme diff
Kaido vs Aokiji-Aokiji extreme diff
Kaido vs Kizaru-Kaido extreme diff
Kaido vs Fujitora-Kaido high-extreme diff
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3 Admirals rape any character in One Piece.Including Roger/Prime Whitebeard.
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You're oversimplifying things to a ridiculous level. It was never said Kaido wasn't a reasonable person. It was said that when angered, he wasn't open to discussion. However, this does not mean he is never open to making deals. The fact that he had a business deal with Doflamingo and Caesar should he is capable of reason and is capable of making deals. Shanks could have stopped Kaido because of a deal between the two. If you really think that this is completely impossible, then your imagination is pitifully limited.
There is absolutely nothing that puts all Yonko on the same level in terms of strength. Yes, Killing WB would earn him more than it does in case of Shanks but the difference isn't much big. I don't get from where you pulled that WB is a level above Shanks thing but manga or anyone else never implied anything like that.
Funny thing is that Kaido should be already above WB as WB is a creature so his title should include WB going by your logic. Yet for some reason you are kinda implying that WB was an exception.Lol
His reason is most likely killing him and take over all of his territories and of course killing WB would increase his reputation. His reasons are irrelevant, Shanks got in his way and tried to stop him from achieving his objective. Given his aggressive nature he would get mad at Shanks for trying to stop him and kill him. By killing Shanks he can take revenge on him for getting in his way and also his reputation will increase but he didn't do that. That says something.
Manga clearly implied that Kaido isn't someone that can be reasoned with, also it seems like you forgot the fact that Yonko are enemies.Lol
Shanks can never offer something that can replace WB's head. But I agree with that point, Shanks most likely offered him something but again we have this Kaido isn't someone that can be reasoned with hype from manga. But still he accepted it or rather he was forced to accept it in exchange for quitting his objective.
I have already addressed that fighting two Yonko argument. Why should he fight two of them again? He intended to take WB's head and Shanks got in his way so he can just kill Shanks and go back to home. It may not be as effective as killing WB but still killing a fellow Yonko means a lot. There is noway in hell for someone as aggressive as Kaido to just quit his objective just because Shanks asked him to. It is a joke if you ask me.
Defeated a Yonko would make people go "Okay, that guy is Yonko level." Which is highly impressive for someone if you aren't already Yonko level. WB is a level above Shanks because he has the reputation of being the world's strongest man. While a fight between the two would be extreme diff, it simply means that WB's place in the world was higher than anyone else's, thus a level above Shanks. If Kaido could have defeated him, he would take that spot. That is why defeating WB is far greater for reputation than beating Shanks. What's better, beating the person who is number 1 and everyone suspects is stronger than you, or the person everyone already lumps you into the same league with? And no, my interpretation of Kaido's title and assertion of WB's are not contradictory for two reasons.
1. Nami's expression to Kaido's title and Law not denying it insinuates that Kaido is not a human. WB's title as World's Strongest Man could simply mean of human beings, WB was the strongest, but not the strongest of every living thing.
2. This one is far more likely, Kaido was simply called the World's Strongest Thing after WB died. So simple, yet so hard to grasp I imagine.
Kaido wanting WB's territory also doesn't make sense, as there was no indication he went after his territory after WB died. It was said that Teach usurped his old territories for the most part.
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