RSM Naruto vs Rikudo Madara

[Omar19992010]

Wait a minute are we talking about Base Rikudo Naruto or Naruto during the Kaguya fight?

 

[Blunt]

If only One Eyed Madara could use any of Deva's abilities. Him casting CT right after getting his eye back, but never using it before that only implies one thing. That he has no access to Deva's powers without having both Rinnegan, and nothing in the manga even supports him being able to do it.

!Okay, this has been discussed upon already in the thread.

Even if he did, Deva has a 5 second cool down. Rikudo Chakra enhanced V3 Susanoo gets shat on by Rasen Shuriken barrages, especially when he clones the Susanoo considering Edo Madara's Susanoo clones are weaker than the original. A normal FRS takes out a regular V3, or at the very least, does heavy damage to it.

Are you forgetting the speed and mobility Sasuke's v3 had, a Senjutsu empowered Susano'o would be capable of not only dishing out shockwaves, which can and will prematurely explode Rasenshuriken variants but can also potentially evade the majority of the AoE.

Give them both Rikudo's Chakra, and while Madara's V3 has the edge due to him having the Juubi and Naruto not having access to his cloaked mode, upscale the FRS to a Chou Oodama size, and then add Yoton in there along with the Fuuton, it's clear that Madara's Susanoo doesn't stand a chance.

Yes, Madara's singular v3 Susano'o doesn't stand a chance, but these clones can act as a meatshield, and or Madara can use a directed ST to counter it. Even if it did plow through all of the efforts, and did hit Madara, a non Shinju version of himself already survived it and regenerated in mere seconds.

Then there is the fact that Naruto has clones, and can use Super Bijuu Rasen Shuriken, albeit downscaled due to the fact he lacks the Bijuu Cloak, but still stronger than YRS, and still strong enough to destroy Susanoo. Gudo Dama were being cracked by Bijuu Dama, YRS>>>Bijuu Dama from BSM Naruto, so those aren't tanking one let alone more than one.

I agree for the most part. Though Madara's clones being weaker than the original means little when the same applies to Naruto, but Madara's clones would be superior due to the conditions.

Destroy them? Lol, Madara's Susanoo's attacks aren't just going to make the RS's vanish. Not how it works.

No, a direct shockwave would cause it to explode.

Otherwise, do you agree that with Deva Path, Madara wins?

 

[Kenjamin Bing]

Since Naruto has no feats and logic reasoning to be half of Madara's power, and Madara's Susano is tiers above Yoton Rasenshuriken as feats show, EMS Madara beats him comfortably. Let alone JJ Madara, who not even JJ Rikudo or Hamura can beat together.

EMS Madara mid diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

Are you forgetting the speed and mobility Sasuke's v3 had, a Senjutsu empowered Susano'o would be capable of not only dishing out shockwaves, which can and will prematurely explode Rasenshuriken variants but can also potentially evade the majority of the AoE.

Prematurely exploding RS only kills Madara, not Naruto. Not to mention if a weaker attack collides with a stronger one, the stronger one prevails 100% of the time. RS is never going to prematurely explode from throwing any old attack at it, and V3 Susanoo's attacks aren't stronger than any of Naruto's Oodama Rasen Shuriken.

Also, Naruto's YRS creates an explosion that is as large as the Shinju's root. Madara's Susanoo isn't evading that, especially when Madara himself failed to do so.

Yes, Madara's singular v3 Susano'o doesn't stand a chance, but these clones can act as a meatshield, and or Madara can use a directed ST to counter it. Even if it did plow through all of the efforts, and did hit Madara, a non Shinju version of himself already survived it and regenerated in mere seconds.

Using them as a meatshield won't help, cause they are still working individually, meaning their defensive power is no higher, meaning as long as they are hit, they are blown to bits.

Nope. He took it, and only regenerated in mere seconds after absorbing the Shinju, which completely restored him. Multiple RS end Madara's life.

I agree for the most part. Though Madara's clones being weaker than the original means little when the same applies to Naruto, but Madara's clones would be superior due to the conditions.

Except Naruto's attacks haven't shown to be weaker when he uses them with clones, but Madara's Susanoo in particular has shown to be much weaker.

No, a direct shockwave would cause it to explode.

Since when? Since when did a weaker attack cause a stronger attack to explode? Ever?

Otherwise, do you agree that with Deva Path, Madara wins?

Not completely sold on it, but he stands a much better chance.

 

[TRE MERCER]

if OP means RSM naruto that chopped the god tree, then madara wins mid diff,
if by RSM naruto you mean the one that fought kaguya, then naruto wins high diff

Going with this. ​

 

[MickNerks]

Because he was fooling her with clones. Madara can tell clones apart.

It's not possible to be able to tell shadow clones apart. They are the exact same as the original. Madara never hinted that he could differentiate between SHADOW CLONES, only mouton clones.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

It's not possible to be able to tell shadow clones apart. They are the exact same as the original. Madara never hinted that he could differentiate between SHADOW CLONES, only mouton clones.

Actually, he did.

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As stupid as it sounds, he somehow can see through shadow clones when something like the Byakugan couldn't.

 

[Holy God]

This depends. If you consider Madara with one Rinnegan not having the power of the Six Paths, then Madara loses; otherwise, he wins.

 

[MickNerks]

Actually, he did.

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As stupid as it sounds, he somehow can see through shadow clones when something like the Byakugan couldn't.

It doesn't make any since. How can Madara do it but not kaguya , and she has byukugon and rinnegan . Clearly a kishimoto fail.