When did Naruto surpass Sasuke?

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He was always stronger than Sasuke........:erm:

Zabuza arc = Narut > Sasuke

Chunin exam arc= Naruto > Sasuke

VOTE fight I = NAruto > Sasuke (Naruto spared Sasuke's life during their last clash.)

Shippuden = back and forth until war arc.

War arc = Naruto > Sasuke

Juubi arc = Naruto > Sasuke

Kaguya arc = Naruto > sasuke

VOTE fight II= Naruto > Sasuke

You could be onto something there.

Sasuke did say "you always walked in front of me, much like my brother". Wonder how we can interpret this, then again sasuke was envious of Naruto's strength....

Dat chapter 698 sasuke :skorm:
 

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You could be onto something there.

Sasuke did say "you always walked in front of me, much like my brother". Wonder how we can interpret this, then again sasuke was envious of Naruto's strength....

Dat chapter 698 sasuke :skorm:
Naruto pretty much said the same thing.. Also as you said, Sasuke said" much like my brother and still do". Meaning Sasuke still believe Itachi is stronger, that makes his statement pointless.
 

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Naruto pretty much said the same thing.. Also as you said, Sasuke said" much like my brother and still do". Meaning Sasuke still believe Itachi is stronger, that makes his statement pointless.

So Naruto said Sasuke walked in front him much like his brother. That must mean they were equal all along.
 

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So Naruto said Sasuke walked in front him much like his brother. That must mean they were equal all along.

Lol no he didn't say Sasuke walk in from of him like his older brother, but he did say all he want to do is catch up to Sasuke so Sasuke would acknowledge him.
 

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Lol no he didn't say Sasuke walk in from of him like his older brother, but he did say all he want to do is catch up to Sasuke so Sasuke would acknowledge him.

Well that's obvious, Sasuke is an uchiha.
 
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Lol no he didn't say Sasuke walk in from of him like his older brother, but he did say all he want to do is catch up to Sasuke so Sasuke would acknowledge him.
Well that's obvious, Sasuke is an uchiha.
Not to disturb your conversation but I wanted to point something out about Naruto.

He literally had little confidence in himself, in himself being a shinobi that is. In the anime (did not read it up to this time). During the Pain arc, he mentioned to his father that he was a "failure of a shinobi." Which was true because he was not natural talented and he had to work hard to get to where he stood, but I guess that's where Sasuke admired him. Even when the loser fell, he had the power to stand up at a higher foothold which slowly began to shape them as being rivals.
 

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Not to disturb your conversation but I wanted to point something out about Naruto.

He literally had little confidence in himself, in himself being a shinobi that is. In the anime (did not read it up to this time). During the Pain arc, he mentioned to his father that he was a "failure of a shinobi." Which was true because he was not natural talented and he had to work hard to get to where he stood, but I guess that's where Sasuke admired him. Even when the loser fell, he had the power to stand up at a higher foothold which slowly began to shape them as being rivals.

I agree great post.
 

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Wrong.

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Viz states that he can't beat sasuke by just being strong, nowhere does he admit inferiority. U_U

That's a different scan, he did say it here, he admitted that he needs the Kyuubi's chakra in order to fight Sasuke after their reunion, Naruto completely abandoned SM till later in the war arc after it failed him against Pain

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The scan you provided was a flash back during his meeting with hagoromo
 

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Tbh BM is where is passed sasuke but then they got equal after rikudo powerups but sasuke outshined him in the last and most likely has adults.
 

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Naruto was undebatably stronger than Sasuke in the fight against Shukaku and Gaara in Part 1 , that's a long time ago.

OT:Is that a way to list Sasuke fans/tards?Well done , thanks.
I suggest you to make a "when did Naruto surpass Itachi" thread.
 
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Yes but how many? They only had one TSB just like obito did after the juubi was removed from him. Hogoromo and hamura inherited juubi chakra but they only had a little bit, where as hogoromo later on is always seen in RS form with 9 TSB. Like he had as a jinchuriki. It is obvious that the amount of juubi chakra he had increased and since he was dead for many years for him to still have that form means he is still producing that chakra.

What different process? The kyuubi as I have said is basically chakra that can think and has physical form. What they ate was chakra nothing more.

Yes all the people naruto gave chakra to still posses the kyuubi's chakra. Even when the kyuubi was removed from naruto many of them still possesed the cloak and their case is different because naruto is in control of the cloak not them meaning there is no fusion of the chakra naruto gave them to themselves. That is why their kyuubi chakra may not be rechargeable.

Naruto's RSM was given to him by the sage of six paths it is not the same as the mode madara and obito had. The chakra of the rikudo is needed far more to achieve the form than the chakra of the bijuu. Since the data book didn't even mention that bijuu chakra was needed it is likely that even if you were correct naruto can still possess the RSM since the sage of six paths(who gave him the form) has rechargeable chakra of the tailed beasts himself and may have given naruto the rechargeable ability too.

That is the thing that u don't seem to get, Jinchuuriki are different from ppl that just obtain chakra. Jinchuuriki are fused with their bijuu and for some they even get physiological appearance changes, hence Naruto's whiskers, Gaara's eyes and sand release and I am guessing Kushina's hair (waves like tails) :|

Anyway, even when Jinchuuriki lose their bijuu their chakra still assimilated bijuu chakra. Gaara- ring around the eyes and sand manipulation.

Ginkaku and Kinkaku are the same their whiskers are proof that the kyuubi chakra has been assimilated into their bodies.
Hagoromo even after losing the Juubi still has some Juubi chakra still keeps some of its power which is the reason for his increase in TSB. The thing different about the kyuubi giving chakra to Naruto's friends and a Jinchuuriki doing it is that the ppl Naruto gave the chakra to can't replenish chakra themselves, only Naruto can do that.

If Naruto got revived without the kyuubi he would still have a degree of Kyuubi chakra because he was a jinchuuriki and was fused with the kyuubi b4. Now as for the other 8 bijuu, Naruto has shown no other physical characteristics of other bijuu or shown the ability of partial transformation because he isn't their jinchuuriki. Getting chakra from a bijuu has not proven to be enough to integrate said chakra into the user.

Imo The bijuu's chakra that Naruto recieved would work similarly to Naruto giving the chakra cloak. It connects the receiver to the user and carries some of the bijuu who gave it's properties yet does not integrate into the reciever's body. Still even when the chakra is of no use/ depleted it never really vanishes, which is y Naruto can still get the ppl out of MT and is still connected to the bijuu
 
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No, see Sasuke is the master of being given powers over training for them.

Naruto learned rasenshuriken, sage mode, perfected rasenshuriken, trained + fought Kurama to get KCM, made peace with Kurama to get 100% control of the Kyubi chakra, then added sage mode with KCM AND was then given Rikudo Sage Mode.


Sasuke trained 3 years with Oro. Sakura and Yamato theorized that Oro may have been giving Sasuke drugs/medicines to augment his strength, Sasuke awakened the MS and received some OP jutsu with no training, later he transplanted Itachi's eyes and was granted more power and was finally given the rinnegan by the sage.


Naruto surpassed Sasuke when he was learned sage mode. After that all Sasuke did was be given more and more power.
 

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No, see Sasuke is the master of being given powers over training for them.

Naruto learned rasenshuriken, sage mode, perfected rasenshuriken, trained + fought Kurama to get KCM, made peace with Kurama to get 100% control of the Kyubi chakra, then added sage mode with KCM AND was then given Rikudo Sage Mode.


Sasuke trained 3 years with Oro. Sakura and Yamato theorized that Oro may have been giving Sasuke drugs/medicines to augment his strength, Sasuke awakened the MS and received some OP jutsu with no training, later he transplanted Itachi's eyes and was granted more power and was finally given the rinnegan by the sage.


Naruto surpassed Sasuke when he was learned sage mode. After that all Sasuke did was be given more and more power.

Didn't Sasuke have to fight Itachi to get his eyes :|
Sasuke also developed Chidori spear, Nagashi, senbon, and Kirin all on his own as well. sasuke's overwhelming ability was thanks to the CM which he was the first since Kimimaro to master.

And for Naruto made peace=given :| Naruto just kept doing what he always does and the Kyuubi took a liking to him

The main difference between the two is that Naruto trained in manga while Sasuke did all his training over the three years and from then on any power he achieved he would apply said training.

Naruto started out behind and all his endeavors were expounded on.
 
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They surpassed each other multiple times & one always caught up to the other. But in the end they are equal.


Pretty much that. He first surprassed him when he learned rasengan, but Sasuke surprassed him when he got 3 tomos. Then Naruto surprassed him again with Sage Mode just for Sasuke get EMS...
 

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The Hospital Water tower incident when Sasuke realized Naruto was starting to outshine Him and decided to run to Orochimaru for power. From that point Naruto keep having to hold back His power so as not to kill Sasuke who keep coming at Naruto with intent to kill Naruto and keep failing.
 

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Not to disturb your conversation but I wanted to point something out about Naruto.

He literally had little confidence in himself, in himself being a shinobi that is. In the anime (did not read it up to this time). During the Pain arc, he mentioned to his father that he was a "failure of a shinobi." Which was true because he was not natural talented and he had to work hard to get to where he stood, but I guess that's where Sasuke admired him. Even when the loser fell, he had the power to stand up at a higher foothold which slowly began to shape them as being rivals.
I disagree. He was natural talented.It was Kyuubi who stopped his progress at young age.
 

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When he surpassed SM (but Sasuke closed the gap with EMS) and when he gained full Kurama.
 

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=Char Aznable;18274012]No, see Sasuke is the master of being given powers over training for them.
this nonsense again, what does it have to do with this thread? not to mention you are flat out wrong and ignorant.

Naruto learned rasenshuriken, sage mode, perfected rasenshuriken, trained + fought Kurama to get KCM, made peace with Kurama to get 100% control of the Kyubi chakra, then added sage mode with KCM AND was then given Rikudo Sage Mode.
and sasuke learned chidori and developed variants of it, mastered raiton to the point were he developed kirin alongside hes kenjutsu skill all done with training. sasuke also fought with itachi to get hes ms and had to also master its jutsus in battle. had to learn and control the rinnegan within a very short time.

Sasuke trained 3 years with Oro. Sakura and Yamato theorized that Oro may have been giving Sasuke drugs/medicines to augment his strength, Sasuke awakened the MS and received some OP jutsu with no training, later he transplanted Itachi's eyes and was granted more power and was finally given the rinnegan by the sage.
that was only a baseless assumption by them due to how strong sasuke had gotten and it was never proven as truth. how would they know? were they there? within one month training with kakashi, sasuke massively improved as seen against gaara in which he learned chidori as well as completely mastering lees speed. if he can grow that strong within one month, how much more within the span of 2 years? he even condemned orochimaru for using drugs to get stronger saying such ways disgusts him . so that drug theory by tsunade and yamato is nothing but horseshit. so you mention naruto having to fight kyuubi for kcm but dont mention how sasuke had to fight itachi to the death which later culminated in him getting MS, whats the difference?

Naruto surpassed Sasuke when he was learned sage mode.
and sasuke caught up as soon as he spent more time with hes MS and was then ahead.

After that all Sasuke did was be given more and more power.
and naruto was given bm? all the beasts chakra? obito didnt give him parts of shikaku and hachibi? ridiculous
 
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