[Discussion] Kaidou vs Pre TS Admirals
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Lol Lol How is Kaidou a clown when Doflamingo fears him more than the admirals? He is willing to take on the admirals but not kaidou.
Oh Flamingo fears the Admirals too he's just playing it tough(Fuji can bury him 5 feet under the ground)
remember when Aokiji made that pink clown run?
remember when he is taking shots against Law?
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Yeah, I think only big mom will lose to admirals. Kaidou vs Admiral will be extreme high difficulty just like Akainu vs Kuzan. It makes sense for Kaidou to be nearly equal to an admiral(though he is a bit stronger).
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So, Akainu can defeat the strongest creature in the world? Kaidou is no pushover. I think Kaidou can defeat an admiral with extreme difficulty. His epithet emphasizes his power.
Because Kaidou is the strongest creature in OP verse. Humans are creatures as are zoan types. So when something suggests one person is the strongest man and then another thing suggests someone is the strongest creature, the strongest creature is the superior one since that person may not be a man, but is certainly a creature (as is WB).
And if I recall correctly, Doflamingo said he'd rather fight an admiral than fight Kaidou, and if memory serves right Akainu wasn't fleet admiral at the time. So that would further back up my point, in one way or another.
Like I said that animal is only hype
Akainu showed actual feats of tanking WB's attacks
Kaidou is no pushover, duh? he's a yonko
but he is not beating Akainu 1v1 unless he shows feats better than WB
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MF whitebeard was severely disadvantaged. His Observation Haki was pathetic at MF as remarked by Marco. He didn't even show haoshoku haki. If he could, he would have taken out all those marine fodders before Luffy did. He was not at his best. A yonkou's haki should be very strong. So we have MF whitebeard with declining health with only armament haki who owned Akainu after getting stabbed with Squard's huge sword and you have Kaidou on the other side with a power of 100 beasts(say a devil fruit) + powerful haki. Without Good Observation Haki, quakes will get you no where. In a battle, haki would be a deciding factor. If one has weak haki, the other will have an obvious advantage. I maintain that an emperor with the power of 100 beasts and haki would be stronger than MF whitebeard and own Akainu.
WB nearly died from the hands of Akainu despite catching him off-guard. Kaido is no exception & Akainu's DF is devastating in close combat. If he nearly blew off WB's face, someone who's knowing for being a tank, imagine what he could do to someone else. Based off hype, Kaido probably wins extreme-diff.
Admirals are so underrated here. If its the 3 admirals against Kaido, I would say it would be a low diff. win for them.
And wtf is with this whole "smashing" stuff. WB never smashed Akainu. I guess people wanted that to happen considering what he did to Ace.
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That was a sick, old, having a seizure, dying WB. Kaido is most definitely an exception as he is stronger than WB. Akainu's DF being devastating is a fact, but an irrelevant one because Kaido is the strongest creature and that's an established manga fact. Zoan types are pretty tanky as well, just saying. But appealing to ignorance because we don't know anything about Kaido is not helping your argument.
No, they aren't. If Oda established Kaido as the strongest creature in OP verse than that's how it is. You wanting to deny it in order to glorify the Admiral's by appealing to ignorance won't do anything for you. Because at the end of the day, Kaido>>any admiral, with or without feats.