ms Obito vs Uchiha brothers

[Demonic.]

Teen Obito apparently forced Kurama into a contract which is why he was able to summon him back then.

Madara also had Kurama under the contract which is why Edo Madara would've actually been able to summon him if Kurama wasn't sealed inside of Naruto.

Adult Obito wouldn't have been able to summon Kurama for that reason as well. He was sealed inside of Naruto.

Either way, Obito isn't meant to have Kurama in this fight. It's Obito by himself vs the brothers unless the OP really did mean for Obito to use Kurama.

@Bold: False. Minato put a contract seal on Obito....

 

[Scryed]

@Bold: False. Minato put a contract seal on Obito....

Ah right...totally forgot about that.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Sasuke could solo really.

Anytime Obito becomes solid his chakra will appear we've already seen amaterasu can catch him off.

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Ribcage susanoo gives sasuke mobility and a solid defense.

Izanagi is useless Obito may cant die but he can be damaged so if he trys to warp Itachi susanoo arrow to the dome stomps the warping process vice versa or he might just get one shotted with totsuka thinking izanagi is invicible

Not a chance.

Obito was caught off Guard he will see the chakra build up in Sasuke's eye then he goes intangible. Rib cage gets warped with Sasuke. Itachi doesn't have Susanoo arrows and even if he did they would reach Obito in the time it takes him to warp someone. Kakashi manage to go from 3tomoe to MS and warp not one but 2 Susanoo arrows Obito easily warps Itachi before he's hit. Izanagi counters Totsuka as well. ​

 

[Draphsin]

Adult obito does not have Kurama so there is no need to restrict it. Teen Obito had Kurama under his control which is a different stage.

Nowhere is it ever stated or implied that this is the obito without kurama. Teen obito = MS obito too. Restrict kurama if you don't want it used. u_u

As if Kurama is even a factor Genjutsu,Amaterasu,Totsuka 1 shots it

Lol Almighty idiot, please. Sasuke tries genjutsu & he gets warped, he tries ama he gets warped, totsuka comes out, guess what? I think you have enough brainpower to figure that one out.

 

[Conspirator.]

Itachi and Sasuke take it.

 

[Apêx1]

Uchiha bro's mid-high diff.

 

[Unorthodox]

Nowhere is it ever stated or implied that this is the obito without kurama. Teen obito = MS obito too. Restrict kurama if you don't want it used. u_u



Lol Almighty idiot, please. Sasuke tries genjutsu & he gets warped, he tries ama he gets warped, totsuka comes out, guess what? I think you have enough brainpower to figure that one out.

slap yourself. And i geuss you think Sasuke is going to use all those techs when Obito is right in his face. He trys to warp sasuke totsuka jabs that ass he trys to warp itachi susanoo arrow through the skull also sasuke can use all those with susanoo on Obito aint warping shit.

Talking about fanboying i only see you in obito vs matchups lel you think Obito can beat anyone should i waste any more of my Almighty time on you?

 

[Indestructible]

Nowhere is it ever stated or implied that this is the obito without kurama. Teen obito = MS obito too. Restrict kurama if you don't want it used. u_u



Lol Almighty idiot, please. Sasuke tries genjutsu & he gets warped, he tries ama he gets warped, totsuka comes out, guess what? I think you have enough brainpower to figure that one out.

If I meant teen obito I would have said teen obito or masked man.

 

[Scryed]

Nowhere is it ever stated or implied that this is the obito without kurama. Teen obito = MS obito too. Restrict kurama if you don't want it used. u_u



Lol Almighty idiot, please. Sasuke tries genjutsu & he gets warped, he tries ama he gets warped, totsuka comes out, guess what? I think you have enough brainpower to figure that one out.

Actually, Minato used the Contract Seal on Obito to release Kurama from his contract so Adult Obito wouldn't actually be able to summon him.

 

[Draphsin]

slap yourself.

The only one I'm slapping here is you & your stupidity.

And i geuss you think Sasuke is going to use all those techs when Obito is right in his face.

Moron, obito isn't going to be in his face, double moron. obito is going to warp behind sasuke as he's focusing on kurama.

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happens once sasuke/itachi tries anything you said, suggesting any other outcome is beyond retarded.

He trys to warp sasuke totsuka jabs that ass

Give me feats of totsuka moving faster than a s/t jutsu, otherwise obito phases through it & sasuke gets dat totsuka up his ass.

he trys to warp itachi susanoo arrow through the skull

Again, itachi stabs sasuke instead since obito's right behind him preparing the warp.

Also give me feats of itachi/sasuke reacting to kamui, give me feats of itachi/sasuke having sensory abilities which is a key factor in figuring out where obito will appear.

These guys have nothing, they end up like fuu/torune.

also sasuke can use all those with susanoo on Obito aint warping shit.

Obito warps inside their susanoo & warps them both away, susanoo makes them a moving target.

Talking about fanboying i only see you in obito vs matchups lel

Lmfao, so because i only post in obito threads that makes me a fanboy? Learn what the f*ck you're talking about, you look like the almighty idiot we all know & love by making claims like that.

you think Obito can beat anyone should i waste any more of my Almighty time on you?

So you want me to post the threads where I admit that obito loses? Stop failing, it's embarrassing.

On the other hand I don't think ive ever seen a sasuke thread where you don't blindly spam "sausage-kun solos! *wankwankwankwank*".

If I meant teen obito I would have said teen obito or masked man.

No, teen obito = MS obito, masked man = MS obito

If you don't restrict kurama then he gets to use it unless you specify that this is the adult version of obito, saying "MS" obito means nothing.

Actually, Minato used the Contract Seal on Obito to release Kurama from his contract so Adult Obito wouldn't actually be able to summon him.

Nowhere did the OP ever mention that this was the adult obito, MS obito = MS obito, that means kurama is fair game.

 

[Haizaki]

The bothers win. All this wanker is doing is throwing insults with his sub par arguments.

OP specify which Obito you're talking about so common sense can be common again.

 

[Scryed]

The only one I'm slapping here is you & your stupidity.



Moron, obito isn't going to be in his face, double moron. obito is going to warp behind sasuke as he's focusing on kurama.

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happens once sasuke/itachi tries anything you said, suggesting any other outcome is beyond retarded.



Give me feats of totsuka moving faster than a s/t jutsu, otherwise obito phases through it & sasuke gets dat totsuka up his ass.



Again, itachi stabs sasuke instead since obito's right behind him preparing the warp.

Also give me feats of itachi/sasuke reacting to kamui, give me feats of itachi/sasuke having sensory abilities which is a key factor in figuring out where obito will appear.

These guys have nothing, they end up like fuu/torune.



Obito warps inside their susanoo & warps them both away, susanoo makes them a moving target.



Lmfao, so because i only post in obito threads that makes me a fanboy? Learn what the f*ck you're talking about, you look like the almighty idiot we all know & love by making claims like that.



So you want me to post the threads where I admit that obito loses? Stop failing, it's embarrassing.

On the other hand I don't think ive ever seen a sasuke thread where you don't blindly spam "sausage-kun solos! *wankwankwankwank*".



No, teen obito = MS obito, masked man = MS obito

If you don't restrict kurama then he gets to use it unless you specify that this is the adult version of obito, saying "MS" obito means nothing.



Nowhere did the OP ever mention that this was the adult obito, MS obito = MS obito, that means kurama is fair game.

Ah I guess he should've clarified.

Though I figured the Obito being used here is the Adult Akatsuki one.

 

[Indestructible]

No, teen obito = MS obito, masked man = MS obito

If you don't restrict kurama then he gets to use it unless you specify that this is the adult version of obito, saying "MS" obito means nothing.



Nowhere did the OP ever mention that this was the adult obito, MS obito = MS obito, that means kurama is fair game.

I am not understanding your point here...yes ms obito can mean teen or adult but it cannot be both and only teen obito has kurama. By default ms obito=adult since we saw more of him in the manga....teen ms obito was a mere flashback who is lacking in areas such as experience in contrast to adult so why would I be referring to the watered down teenage version we saw in a flashback?

 

[Draphsin]

All this wanker is doing is throwing insults with his sub par arguments.

With a response like this you've clearly shown me that you know nothing of unorthodox's history, otherwise you'd know that the insults being thrown at him are more than deserved. So stop complaining, nobody needs to hear you whine. But it makes sense why you're trying to provoke me though considering our last encounter Lol.

OP specify which Obito you're talking about so common sense can be common again.

Lol, made me laugh. Lets talk about MS sasuke, okay now which version am I referring to? The one who fought the kage, danzo, or a healthy version of the one that fought kakashi? hmm

EMS Madara, which one am I referring to? VoTE madara or the madara w/o kurama? hmm

MS Obito, now which one am I referring to? Teen MS obito, or adult MS obito? hmm

Clearly there are different forms of the same character, just because adult MS obito is the most common form of MS obito doesn't mean that it's common sense to assume he's the one being used in this specific thread, not when nothing indicates what form it is.

Common sense stays common

Ah I guess he should've clarified.

Though I figured the Obito being used here is the Adult Akatsuki one.

It wasn't stated, so really it could be either.

I am not understanding your point here.

It's not hard to comprehend, teen obito had the MS, adult obito had the MS, therefore any thread speaking of MS obito could be referring to either one.

By default ms obito=adult since we saw more of him in the manga.

& This is where your logic doesn't make sense, just because adult obito was shown more doesn't mean that teen obito didn't have the mangekyou as well. Unless you're specifying which obito is being used [either by restricting kurama or by calling him "adult" obito] then MS obito = any version of obito with the mangekyou, including his teen form w/ a kurama summoning contract.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Itachi and Sasuke mid diff.

 

[Indestructible]

It's not hard to comprehend, teen obito had the MS, adult obito had the MS, therefore any thread speaking of MS obito could be referring to either one.



& This is where your logic doesn't make sense, just because adult obito was shown more doesn't mean that teen obito didn't have the mangekyou as well. Unless you're specifying which obito is being used [either by restricting kurama or by calling him "adult" obito] then MS obito = any version of obito with the mangekyou, including his teen form w/ a kurama summoning contract.

You have overlooked the part where I agreed ms obito can refer to teen or adult, but not both. You cannot combine teen and adult feats as adult obito does not posses kurama while teen does - i trust we are in agreement up to this point.

It should be common sense "ms obito" is referring to adult since this is the more common stage of obito. Example: ms itachi can refer to akatsuki itachi or 14 year old anbu itachi....if unspecified common sense should tell us this is akatsuki itachi.

Lastly it makes more sense in the timeline. Itachi and sasuke fighting a 14 year old obito is a little odd since Itachi was 4 when obito was a teen; on the other hand, the Uchiha brothers fighting an adult obito is more appropriate.

 

[Draphsin]

You have overlooked the part where I agreed ms obito can refer to teen or adult, but not both. You cannot combine teen and adult feats as adult obito does not posses kurama while teen does - i trust we are in agreement up to this point.

Show me where I combined the feats of teen & adult obito.

It should be common sense "ms obito" is referring to adult since this is the more common stage of obito.

Wrong, just because one form of a character is more common than the others doesn't mean that it's common sense to assume he's the one being used, especially when there's nothing to suggest such a thing.

Example: ms itachi can refer to akatsuki itachi or 14 year old anbu itachi....if unspecified common sense should tell us this is akatsuki itachi.

Bad example, 14 y/o MS itachi has no notable feats whereas both forms of MS obito do. Now let me take a proper example & show you how it backfires.

MS Sasuke, his most common form is before & after he fought killerbee since by your logic he was shown the most then. Now, tell me if I created a thread stating "MS sasuke vs X" Then which form of sasuke am I referring to? The one who fought bee? The one who fought the kage? The one who fought danzo? The one who fought kakashi? Or a healthy version of any of them?

Same with madara, he was shown most w/o kurama, so in any EMS Madara thread am I referring to that madara or the madara who fought hashi at the VoTE with kurama?

There is no common sense when vaguely referring to a form of a character that has multiple versions of said form, you could be referring to any of them.

Lastly it makes more sense in the timeline. Itachi and sasuke fighting a 14 year old obito is a little odd since Itachi was 4 when obito was a teen; on the other hand, the Uchiha brothers fighting an adult obito is more appropriate.

Completely irrelevant, minato is put up against naruto in vs threads, dead characters are brought back to life in vs threads. This doesn't in any way imply that the adult version of MS obito is being used in a thread where everything is hypothetical.

 

[Indestructible]

Bad example, 14 y/o MS itachi has no notable feats whereas both forms of MS obito do. Now let me take a proper example & show you how it backfires.

MS Sasuke, his most common form is before & after he fought killerbee since by your logic he was shown the most then. Now, tell me if I created a thread stating "MS sasuke vs X" Then which form of sasuke am I referring to? The one who fought bee? The one who fought the kage? The one who fought danzo? The one who fought kakashi? Or a healthy version of any of them?

This example clarifys my point...If you make an ms Sasuke thread without specifying which stage of ms sasuke then common sense would tell me it is Danzo fight ms sasuke since this most advanced version of ms sasuke. Specification would be necessary if this was a lesser stage of MS Sasuke since they are less matured and experienced.

Same thing with obito.....also note ms sasuke is the same age whereas with obito we are talking about a 14 year old vs a 30 year old - difference.

Same with madara, he was shown most w/o kurama, so in any EMS Madara thread am I referring to that madara or the madara who fought hashi at the VoTE with kurama?

It varies; however, this isn't the same as what we have been discussing..The only difference between ems madara with kurama and without is kurama itself. In ms Obito's case one is a teen and one is an adult. Same thing with ms sasuke, one is more developed.

There is no common sense when vaguely referring to a form of a character that has multiple versions of said form, you could be referring to any of them.

Of course there is... If I say base kakashi vs base itachi would you assume I was referring to teen kakashi as well? I dont see why you would. & If i say Itachi vs neji wouldn't common sense tell you I mean part 2 neji, not kid neji?

Completely irrelevant, minato is put up against naruto in vs threads, dead characters are brought back to life in vs threads. This doesn't in any way imply that the adult version of MS obito is being used in a thread where everything is hypothetical.

Well obviously. I am just saying it can help sometimes.

 

[Draphsin]

This example clarifys my point...If you make an ms Sasuke thread without specifying which stage of ms sasuke then common sense would tell me it is Danzo fight ms sasuke since this most advanced version of ms sasuke.

Purely subjective, you contradicted your own logic, & it's even wrong.

1. By your logic the most common version of a character is based on how much panel time they got as you said earlier. [

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] & As I then said, the sasuke who fought bee was shown the most out of any version of MS sasuke, therefore by your logic when I speak of MS sasuke I'm referring to his weakest form.

Now you're telling me that common sense tells us the sasuke who fought danzo is the one that's implied when someone says "MS" sasuke, thereby contradicting what you said previously regarding panel time.

2. Danzo fight sasuke is not his most advanced form, the version when he fought kakashi was. [

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] & Even then this sasuke had about 20% of his original eyesight so then you'd have to specify whether this sasuke has healthy eyesight or not.

3. & If you want to base this off of which version is the more advanced one then MS obito + kurama > MS obito by himself regardless of the difference in experience [which could be little to none since madara already taught him everything he knew & died already], so that still doesn't work.

Specification would be necessary if this was a lesser stage of MS Sasuke since they are less matured and experienced.

No, specification is always necessary when vaguely referring to a whole version of MS obito who had varying stages of strength, which is what you did.

As I said the sasuke who fought danzo was not the most advanced version of sasuke, yet obito w/ kurama was his most advanced version... & Power > age, just because obito was older doesn't mean that having kurama didn't make him less of a threat as a teenager, lol. Maturity has nothing to do with it.

Same thing with obito.....also note ms sasuke is the same age whereas with obito we are talking about a 14 year old vs a 30 year old - difference.

Another irrelevant point. Naruto was 16 & he defeated kakuzu who was over 100 years old, what does that tell you about age & experience?

It varies; however, this isn't the same as what we have been discussing..The only difference between ems madara with kurama and without is kurama itself. In ms Obito's case one is a teen and one is an adult. Same thing with ms sasuke, one is more developed.

As I have already covered, age is irrelevant when one version has more power than the other. & You're completely missing the point now. There are multiple versions of EMS madara, multiple versions of MS sasuke, & multiple versions of MS obito. Just because one version is younger than the other version doesn't mean that it's common sense to assume he isn't the one being discussed, & that's just your opinion anyways.

Literally the only reason why you're calling it "common sense" is because one version is vastly older than the other, & that's just plain subjective.

Of course there is... If I say base kakashi vs base itachi would you assume I was referring to teen kakashi as well? I dont see why you would. & If i say Itachi vs neji wouldn't common sense tell you I mean part 2 neji, not kid neji?

Again stop with the awful examples, kid kakashi has no notable feats. The only impressive thing he's done was use raikiri, therefore it would be common sense to assume it's the adult version of kakashi since he's the only one with feats to debate with. So this example stays bad.

Now as for the neji example, getting better but still not there. Both neji & itachi were in pt 1 & pt 2, so you'd still have to specify which part you were referring to, & so there's zero common sense here.

If you put neji against a character from pt 2, common sense then tells us that it's pt 2 neji & vice versa for pt 1. If it's a character from pt 1 & 2 then you'd have to specify. It's not rocket science, stop trying to justify the fact that you just failed to specify the version & put no restrictions to boot. There's nothing to justify here, teen MS obito = MS obito, you just have to specify next time.

Well obviously. I am just saying it can help sometimes.

It doesn't help here.

 

[Indestructible]

Purely subjective, you contradicted your own logic, & it's even wrong.

1. By your logic the most common version of a character is based on how much panel time they got as you said earlier. [

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] & As I then said, the sasuke who fought bee was shown the most out of any version of MS sasuke, therefore by your logic when I speak of MS sasuke I'm referring to his weakest form.

Now you're telling me that common sense tells us the sasuke who fought danzo is the one that's implied when someone says "MS" sasuke, thereby contradicting what you said previously regarding panel time.

2. Danzo fight sasuke is not his most advanced form, the version when he fought kakashi was. [

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] & Even then this sasuke had about 20% of his original eyesight so then you'd have to specify whether this sasuke has healthy eyesight or not.

3. & If you want to base this off of which version is the more advanced one then MS obito + kurama > MS obito by himself regardless of the difference in experience [which could be little to none since madara already taught him everything he knew & died already], so that still doesn't work.



No, specification is always necessary when vaguely referring to a whole version of MS obito who had varying stages of strength, which is what you did.

As I said the sasuke who fought danzo was not the most advanced version of sasuke, yet obito w/ kurama was his most advanced version... & Power > age, just because obito was older doesn't mean that having kurama didn't make him less of a threat as a teenager, lol. Maturity has nothing to do with it.



Another irrelevant point. Naruto was 16 & he defeated kakuzu who was over 100 years old, what does that tell you about age & experience?



As I have already covered, age is irrelevant when one version has more power than the other. & You're completely missing the point now. There are multiple versions of EMS madara, multiple versions of MS sasuke, & multiple versions of MS obito. Just because one version is younger than the other version doesn't mean that it's common sense to assume he isn't the one being discussed, & that's just your opinion anyways.

Literally the only reason why you're calling it "common sense" is because one version is vastly older than the other, & that's just plain subjective.



Again stop with the awful examples, kid kakashi has no notable feats. The only impressive thing he's done was use raikiri, therefore it would be common sense to assume it's the adult version of kakashi since he's the only one with feats to debate with. So this example stays bad.

Now as for the neji example, getting better but still not there. Both neji & itachi were in pt 1 & pt 2, so you'd still have to specify which part you were referring to, & so there's zero common sense here.

If you put neji against a character from pt 2, common sense then tells us that it's pt 2 neji & vice versa for pt 1. If it's a character from pt 1 & 2 then you'd have to specify. It's not rocket science, stop trying to justify the fact that you just failed to specify the version & put no restrictions to boot. There's nothing to justify here, teen MS obito = MS obito, you just have to specify next time.



It doesn't help here.[/QUOTE]

Lol....okay fair enough. If it means that much to you I will specify that this is adult obito