[Question] Did Oda really say that a fight between the monster trio would end in a draw?

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In a free for all I can see a draw, considering that you're not focusing your energy on one person.

And given Sanji's evasiveness and superior observation Haki, unnecessary energy won't be spent.....as much.
 

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Zoro's feats are comparable to that of Luffy where as Sanji hasn't shown anything on their level.
If you think about it sanji really hasn't had any major fights. His fight with vergo or doffy don't really count tbh, since sanji didn't really know anything about doffy df but still pretty well and his fight against vergo wasn't really a proper fight...
 

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Zoro can only bend over and accept the rape if Luffy fires off something like elephant gatling at him. Zoro's feats are not comparable to Luffy, he is a step below just like Sanji is a step below Zoro.
you know the moment luffy start using g3 he will be a sitting duck for his 1080 canon right ?
yes egg strike power > the 1080 pund but 1080 striking speed > egg`s so zoro will stop luffy`s attack before it gains the momentum
 
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you know the moment luffy start using g3 he will be a sitting duck for his 1080 canon right ?
yes egg strike power > the 1080 pund but 1080 striking speed > egg`s so zoro will stop luffy`s attack before it gains the momentum
1080 cannon isn't that impressive to be honest. he cut a big chunk of rock whoopdedoo but achieved nothing, he is still fighting the same enemy.

Its a pre skip tech with some extra oomph to it. Luffy also has an entire arsenal of those. Look at all the villains that took a hit from G3 why would Zoro be the exception that will be able to take Luffy down because he is 'a sitting duck'. That's right because he isn't . And when Zoro has a barrage of giant CoA clad fists incoming he probably has other things to worry about.

Otherwise Luffy would just outspeed him and finish it with a red hawk.
 

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1\1080 cannon isn't that impressive to be honest. he cut a big chunk of rock whoopdedoo but achieved nothing, he is still fighting the same enemy.

Its a pre skip tech with some extra oomph to it. Luffy also has an entire arsenal of those. Look at all the villains that took a hit from G3 2\why would Zoro be the exception that will be able to take Luffy down because he is 'a sitting duck'. That's right because 3\he isn't . And when Zoro has a barrage of giant CoA clad fists incoming he probably has other things to worry about.

Otherwise Luffy would just outspeed him and finish it with a red hawk.
1\so by your logic luffy`s egg isnt impressive because it was destroying a giant piece of wood
2\because zoro has what it takes it`s simple let`s take a look at those villians : hordy,kraken,ceazer,dcj.
so all of them has no fire power that equals zoro`s attack and has no attack speed and the only time he used egg was on noah too bad it cant fight back
3\guess what when he uses g3 the only part that moves is his hands so yeah he is a sitting duck
 

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1\so by your logic luffy`s egg isnt impressive because it was destroying a giant piece of wood
2\because zoro has what it takes it`s simple let`s take a look at those villians : hordy,kraken,ceazer,dcj.
so all of them has no fire power that equals zoro`s attack and has no attack speed and the only time he used egg was on noah too bad it cant fight back
3\guess what when he uses g3 the only part that moves is his hands so yeah he is a sitting duck
1) No that is irrelevant you don't get the point. Zoro cut the stone but it did barely any harm to Pica.
2) You forget Lucci, Moria, Kuma as well. Zoro didn't have what it takes against those guys. Besides it was Hody who stuffed Zoro in a cage.
3) In gear three every part of his body can be moved. Lucci tried to bite Luffy's leg and inflated it immediately which almost broke his jaw.

Also Zoro's 1080 attack only covers a small area in width but a lot in length, so it's not really suitable for small targets. Luffy dodged a point blank swing from mihawk and only increased his CoO ever since. He has the speed and technique to just get out of the way of the slash.
 

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1) No that is irrelevant you don't get the point. Zoro cut the stone but it did barely any harm to Pica.
2) You forget Lucci, Moria, Kuma as well. Zoro didn't have what it takes against those guys. Besides it was Hody who stuffed Zoro in a cage.
3) In gear three every part of his body can be moved. Lucci tried to bite Luffy's leg and inflated it immediately which almost broke his jaw.

Also Zoro's 1080 attack only covers a small area in width but a lot in length, so it's not really suitable for small targets. Luffy dodged a point blank swing from mihawk and only increased his CoO ever since. He has the speed and technique to just get out of the way of the slash.
1\ that because it had to cut through all that rock to reach pica can you imagine pica being in a good shape after taking is directly ?
2\oh yeah i forgot them but still no one of them has it too (you are talking about px-? ofc) so your point? now that is irrelvant
3\ he cant dodge when he uses gear 3rd cause of his giant fist thats the point
 
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A pirate crew where two members are equal to the captain? hmm that's very suspect even for a shonen. I'm not buying it, a redhawk rifle would put sanji in the hospital and break zoro ribs....On the other hand I don't see anything in sanji's arsenal that could do serious damage to luffy or that wouldn't be blocked by Zoro swords.

Not underrating Sanji but portrayal wise he don't have anything that would make a fight between him and luffy a tie or him and zoro a tie.

I see Zoro winning against sanji high diff and losing against luffy high diff, a 1080p phoenix would do great damage to luffy (if it lands) but it's not portrayed as something that zoro can use over and over while Luffy has tons of heavy hitting attacks that he can spam.


The way I see it: Sanji=smartest.. Luffy=fastest combat speed/most stamina/Best all around haki...Zoro=Best long range attacks/largest AoE (debatable)
 

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1\ that because it had to cut through all that rock to reach pica can you imagine pica being in a good shape after taking is directly ?
2\oh yeah i forgot them but still no one of them has it too (you are talking about px-? ofc) so your point? now that is irrelvant
3\ he cant dodge when he uses gear 3rd cause of his giant fist thats the point
You're a f'ing dumbass, now you're just trying to be smart about it and using my rebuttals to prove a point or something. This doesn't even warrant a response anymore but I'll do it one more time.

1) So this allmighty attack can't even penetrate through half the statue in order to make Pica hurt a lot. Meanwhile we see guys like Law cutting mountains and Luffy smashing the head clean off the statue with a pretty standard attack. Another sign that Zoro is not on that level.

2) Kuma and Lucci don't have it in them to hurt Luffy like Zoro does ? They were both close to killing him. It's beyond me how you can say that Those guys don't have it. And Luffy was no match for Moria untill nightmare Luffy. You're talking bull. Daying that it's irrelevant only to be smart about it is ironic and painful because you started with Hody, Ceasar and the kraken and i countered it with three other bosses who had to deal with G3 where Luffy was able to move perfectly fine in G3 mode. So either your argument is irrelevant if you still stand by that, or I just kicked your shit in with this reply, Pick one.

3) He can pump it to his leg and jump high in the air to dodge last minute, When zoro is close he can move it to his torso to bounce him off and throw him of balance before he attacks. He already used those strategies so it's not like I'm theorizing. G3 Luffy is still nimble and fast and he is unstoppable when he gets his gatling going which only costs a few seconds to start, It's not like Zoro can pump out 1080's as he wishes. You also don't know the preparation time for that move, it might even take longer than a gatling for all you know.

Have a nice day, put some lube on your butthole so that the rape doesn't hurt as bad tomorrow.
 

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Zoro can only bend over and accept the rape if Luffy fires off something like elephant gatling at him. Zoro's feats are not comparable to Luffy, he is a step below just like Sanji is a step below Zoro.

I said they have comparable feats which was proven by manga and I don't get what the point of Zoro not being able to counter EG has anything to do with their feats being comparable. Whatever Luffy's EG has plenty of weak points so it isn't really that hard to escape it. But I don't know what Zoro can do if Luffy forces him to face it head on.

Inb4 Luffy has more destructive power. Yes, he has more destructive power by means of multiple attacks so if Luffy can do it with multiple attacks then so can Zoro but I admit that Zoro can't spam his attacks as much as Luffy. My point is that the scale of their attacks is pretty much same that's all.



A pirate crew where two members are equal to the captain? hmm that's very suspect even for a shonen. I'm not buying it, a redhawk rifle would put sanji in the hospital and break zoro ribs....On the other hand I don't see anything in sanji's arsenal that could do serious damage to luffy or that wouldn't be blocked by Zoro swords.

Not underrating Sanji but portrayal wise he don't have anything that would make a fight between him and luffy a tie or him and zoro a tie.

I see Zoro winning against sanji high diff and losing against luffy high diff, a 1080p phoenix would do great damage to luffy (if it lands) but it's not portrayed as something that zoro can use over and over while Luffy has tons of heavy hitting attacks that he can spam.


The way I see it: Sanji=smartest.. Luffy=fastest combat speed/most stamina/Best all around haki...Zoro=Best long range attacks/largest AoE (debatable)

@ Bold: You are seriously overrating that attack.
 
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You're a f'ing dumbass, now you're just trying to be smart about it and using my rebuttals to prove a point or something. This doesn't even warrant a response anymore but I'll do it one more time.

1) So this allmighty attack can't even penetrate through half the statue in order to make Pica hurt a lot. Meanwhile we see guys like Law cutting mountains and Luffy smashing the head clean off the statue with a pretty standard attack. Another sign that Zoro is not on that level.

2) Kuma and Lucci don't have it in them to hurt Luffy like Zoro does ? They were both close to killing him. It's beyond me how you can say that Those guys don't have it. And Luffy was no match for Moria untill nightmare Luffy. You're talking bull. Daying that it's irrelevant only to be smart about it is ironic and painful because you started with Hody, Ceasar and the kraken and i countered it with three other bosses who had to deal with G3 where Luffy was able to move perfectly fine in G3 mode. So either your argument is irrelevant if you still stand by that, or I just kicked your shit in with this reply, Pick one.

3) He can pump it to his leg and jump high in the air to dodge last minute, When zoro is close he can move it to his torso to bounce him off and throw him of balance before he attacks. He already used those strategies so it's not like I'm theorizing. G3 Luffy is still nimble and fast and he is unstoppable when he gets his gatling going which only costs a few seconds to start, It's not like Zoro can pump out 1080's as he wishes. You also don't know the preparation time for that move, it might even take longer than a gatling for all you know.

Have a nice day, put some lube on your butthole so that the rape doesn't hurt as bad tomorrow.

1\ it have what it takes that`s enough unless you are saying luffy can tank it whith nodamage which is pretty dumb
2\ i am startin to feel you dont know what you are argueing about yes they dont have what it takes they dont have the dc and the attack speed to stop luffy before his attack hit them unless you have a panel that suggest so ?
3\serouisly ?
stop making a joke of your self man it`s not that hard to understand at least for somone with a brain
 

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1\ it have what it takes that`s enough unless you are saying luffy can tank it whith nodamage which is pretty dumb
2\ i am startin to feel you dont know what you are argueing about yes they dont have what it takes they dont have the dc and the attack speed to stop luffy before his attack hit them unless you have a panel that suggest so ?
3\serouisly ?
stop making a joke of your self man it`s not that hard to understand at least for somone with a brain
Great, I will take this post as a sign that I won the argument, because on all three points you didn't even try to make a counter.

WEAK !

I'm outta here.
 
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