Prime Uchiha clan vs Prime Otsutsuki Clan

Conspirator.

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Mar 10, 2014
Messages
19,435
Reaction score
3,378
Nah im just tired of you lurking on my post disliking shit hop off my d*ck cuzzo.

Also Ash bone warped or it fazed through him like most of her attacks. Kamui Shuriken counters her hands that plowed down Sasuke Susanoo. Juubi Buffed Susanoo rips her apart etc...

What? Ash bones shit on Obito's PS. Kamui is dodged. Expansive Gudo dama rapes Obito when he becomes tangible. In fact that is not even needed. Please remove Obito's wang out of your mouth.
 

TRE MERCER

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
May 13, 2014
Messages
13,251
Reaction score
487
What? Ash bones shit on Obito's PS. Kamui is dodged. Expansive Gudo dama rapes Obito when he becomes tangible. In fact that is not even needed. Please remove Obito's wang out of your mouth.
Ps shockwaves send Ash bone back or it meets a Kamui shuriken or simple gets sniped. Expansive TSB? She first has to turn into that huge cat bijuu creature which then she gets warped. Kakashi with a Kurama cloak managed with enough time could snipe kamui something on the Juubi level Obito with Juubi chakra would easily be able to kamui the huge cat. Obito could simple leave to his dimension once that TSB of doom comes out etc multiple ways of stopping it/Avoiding it.

Remove Obito's wang out of my mouth L0l does he even have one?
 

Itachi 4 life

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Jul 28, 2014
Messages
1,498
Reaction score
196
Nobody countered my post, so it concludes the thread
The Uchiha win
 

KidGamer65

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Aug 5, 2012
Messages
38,776
Reaction score
2,272
Please stop i can barely take it that Hagoromo who gave them half of his power was clearly from his prime we can see Young prime Hagoromo having no yet the one who gave them his chakra had meaning this was actually him after he absorbed the juubi.

Haha, nope. Read the manga.

1. Gudo Dama are irrelevant. You don't need the Juubi to have the Gudo Dama. Hamura's staff is a Gudo Dama. Naruto's Six Path's Sage Mode isn't because of his Bijuu, and he has Gudo Dama. Asura's black orbs are Gudo Dama. Kaguya has Gudo Dama. Even Obito formed one after taking some of Rikudo's chakra from Madara.

2. That is Hagoromo at the time he died, just like it is with all spirits and ghosts. Why would Hagoromo's ghost be him in the past, and not him when he died? Lol. When he died, he lacked the Juubi.

3. Young Hagoromo=/=Prime Hagoromo.

4. Juubi was in Madara at the time, how would Hagoromo have it?

Hagoromo after becoming the Juubi's Jinchuuriki and after losing said Juubi gave Naruto and Sasuke half his power each. Jin Rikudo>Post Jin Rikudo>Pre Jin Rikudo>Naruto and Sasuke before bijuu and Nature Energy.



Also base Hagoromo and Hamura we,re portrayed equal to the Kaguya fight Naruto & Sasuke witch we saw those feats got blown way out of the water at VOTE2. Please kill youself JJ Hagoromo is Kaguya's tier who fought a much weaker Sasuke who was not used to his rinnegan let alone VOTE2 sasuke that could have blown that Sasuke out of the water VOTE2 Sasuke and Naruto replaced with themselfs at the time they fought Kaguya she would have murked yet you believe Adult Sasuke even with the bijuus is 2 tiers below Hagoromo please log off.
I suggest you people learn what portrayal is before actually using the argument. Showing them side by side=/=portrayed to be equals. If you aren't going to use the portrayal argument right, I suggest you don't bother using it at all.

Lol, what a retard.

1. JJ Hagoromo is not on Kaguya's tier.

2. Sasuke clearly stated that he was used to the abilities of his Rinnegan.

3. They still would've gotten raped by Kaguya.

4. Sasuke w/o Bijuu is 3 tiers below Hagoromo. Sasuke w/ Bijuu is 2 tiers below Hagoromo. Adult Sasuke is a tier below Hagoromo. You can cry after you prove that Jin Rikudo gave them his power.

Slap yourself Sasuke in the last was able to vaporize a konoha sized meteor with chidori meaning a 2 year time span not only did his chakra get more potent jutsu as chidori witch only pierce we're vaporizing meteors image what a Perfect susanoo chidori could do that little feat alone puts him above anything implied by base Hagoromo

Lol, what a fanboy. Sasuke is nowhere near Post Jin Hagoromo on his own. Not when he's half of his power.


i may also add that Naruto and Sasuke always portrayed equals in the naruto in the last movie was not even at full power yet he was able to fend off and against moon spliting attacks if Sasuke is his equal he could do the same. And you gave to valid counters to how he takes down Adult Sasuke's Bijuu enhanced perfect susanoo defend against witch is a ration style that overcame 4 bijuu damas coming from Naruto. Hagoromo gets whacked Rinnegan tech = Rinnegan techs the rest is all Sasuke.
Why are you always using the shittiest portrayal arguments? Sasuke and Naruto are NOT always portrayed to be equal. The rest is irrelevant. He started off as half of Post Jin Old Man Hagoromo's power. No way in hell is he as strong as Jin Hagoromo. We've already seen the gap in power between Obito and Juubito. Madara and JJ Madara.



Thats the reason why Kaguya is not fighting Madara plain in simple okay maybe i strech it by saying he has rinnegan genjutsu. Bijuu by no means counter I.T especially when basic rinnegan jutsu owned all of them Kaguya does not have the bijuu and even if she does why would they ever help her break out of genjutsu (I know she cannot get caught im just saying) Fair enough but this has nothing to do with her i was talking about Madara taking out toneri Juubi buffed Ps and Limbo witch toneri cant see and preta witch absorbs his hole arsenal he gets raped Madara takes him out easily.

Madara can't stop her.

Hagoromo already stated that someone with Bijuu chakra and Rinnegan can break IT. So no, IT is fodder here.

Except Toneri has no reason to fight when Kaguya can fight Madara instead.


Obito cant do anything lmao is the reasons she lost in the first place because of Kakashi abilities with Kamui and susanoo image that but on Juubito its to much to overcome i never said his perfect susanoo is stronger then sasuke's but even if it was i had no doubt she could still destroy it.

No, she lost because of Kakashi's strategy combined with Kakashi's abilities and Team 7's abilities, not solely because of Kakashi. Kamui and Susanoo is nothing hard to overcome. @bold: Then what is the issue here?


Why would he snipe her protals when they're useless to him he snips her head off or arm Juubito is much faster than Kakashi was when he obtained that little bit of Hagoromo chakra he was able to land a solid hit on her

Not because of speed, because he caught her off guard. Kakashi is no faster than Sasuke, who can't blitz Kaguya. Snipes her head off? With Kamui? Lol. Kamui is easily avoided, either by her S/T or by raw speed.


Obito simply phases through her attack and takes her head off

How about you stop wanking Obito?


and No he can stay intangible why sniped both eyes' one to hide and one to long range warp sword of nonuboku and vaporizing Omnyudon also can she even paste his negated ninjutsu because we dont have a senjutsu feat from her. Obito is not being one shotted her his reaction are good enough to react to her fasting attack ash bone witch Kakashi did ill repeat myself with double kamui and can stay hiding and snipe at the same time GG Kaguya.

Which is based on nothing amirite?

Wow...did you skip all these chapters? It's crazy, when it comes to Sasuke, he can damage the Gudo Dama despite only getting Rikudo Chakra, but Kaguya, the originator of that Rikudo Chakra, can't damage them. Lol. Rikudo Chakra=Senjutsu, as the manga has shown us. Gudo Dama can't negate her jutsu.

Kakashi didn't react to Ash Bone from close range, not to mention all he did was phase through it. Kamui is automatic as long as it's active, so that doesn't even count as a reaction feat. Not to mention if Obito is attacking, he can't go ghost mode thus his reaction is irrelevant.



What will she do with the giant Gudo Dama? Madara and Obito nukes it with Juubi damas because ithey can be destroyed for the momment or Sasuke shoots it down with Indra's arrow witch im sure does not deplete an adult sasuke especailly when VOTE2 Sasuke was fighting since he woke up Team Uchiha takes this here.
Kill yourself. That Gudo Dama was going to destroy a dimension. Juubi Dama, and Indra's Arrow aren't doing shit.

Sasuke > Hagoromo
Kill yourself.

Madara spanks Toneri
Kaguya stops him.

Obito holds off Kaguya untill Madara shows up then its GG
except he can't.
 

ARGUS

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Mar 14, 2014
Messages
6,324
Reaction score
319
Great battle IMO, but the Uchiha take this

Nope, they get raped by Kaguya and Hagoromo alone
-Madara stalemates or even defeats Hagoromo. But let's keep it civil and say he stalemates him, keeping him busy fighting Madara(somewhat similar to Edo Madara vs Edo Hashirama)
With what?
Hagoromo has a fully mastered rinnegan as opposed to madara,
has a more complete juubi, has far stronger chakra,
his deathbed CT alone takes a dump on prime jin madaras,
hagoromo clowns him with utmost ease,

-An older Sasuke that mastered Rinnegan's power AND has the bijuu chakra NEG diffs Toneri so hard ,it's not even funny.
ok, but kaguya is there, so she spanks him with no difficulty
-Obito can fight Kaguya 1v1.
In what world can he do that?
She doesn't have BZ telling her what to do+Obito can phase through any of her attacks. Since this is fanfic Obito that can Kamui snipe while being intangable and is a JJ, there is no way Kaguya is taking him out, he can troll her long enough.
She dooesnt need BZ telling her shit, when she can still rape them with her firepower and hax with utmost ease,

Obito isnt doing shit, constructs are meaningless in front of kaguya when she can blow through them like a balloon through gods vacuum attack, or shatter them with ash bones,

@Bold - that is fanfic at its finest, as we all know he needs to solidify to actually warp,
kamui is not doing shit, when its warping speed is comparable to even madaras TSB,
kaguya fllat out evaded even Amenotejikara, and Sasukes S/T and striking speed >>> Double Kamui
or kaguya can just evade the warps with yomutsu hirasaka
-After Sasuke negs Toneri(Non debatable, Sasuke is miles above him), he goes on to help Madara and they 2v1 Hagoromo(Hagoromo has no way of fighting Madara and Sasuke)
Madara gets clowned by hagoromo within a few minutes,
sasuke most isnt doing shit to hagoromo either, so he gets raped as well
Hagoromos rinnegan >> Sasukes rinnegan
Hagoromos juubi >>>>>> sasukes Bijuu
full hagoromos chakra >> 50% yin chakra
-Afterwards, they gang up on Kaguya either killing her(immortality restricted) or turning this battle into hentai. Whichever you prefer,OP.
In all honesty, they still cant do much to her,
Constructs are meaningless as once they are busted, they are left defenseless, so they die,
kamui is clowned by kaguyas speed, reflexes and sensing
they cant counter expansive TSB either, they aree not evading it,and they are certainly not tanking it, so they die
leaving only obito left, he gets ripped apart the moment he attempts to attack kaguya

How is she beating Juubi Jin DMS Obito?
You must be registered for see images


Hagoromo is featless outside of CT. So Madara and Older Sasuke with Bijuu easily holds there own against him.
yet the same CT he formed in his fkn death bed takes a steamy dump on prime jin madaras CT,
just goes to show the difference in their level,
not to mention that non jin hagoromos halves were stomping madara left and right, so madara isnt holding shit here
Lol sasuke is only half of his non jin self, so he gets clowned by prime jin hagoromo, so does madara, when literally nothing is working against hagoromo here

Uchiha's win.
Lol in fanfic world, maybe,
No way in hell is Kaguya beating this version of Obito or even coming close to that matter.
You must be registered for see images


Lol this is sig worthy

--PS gets raped by ash bones, chakra punches or 80 gods vacuum attack,

--kamui gets evaded, and the moment he solidifies to attack, kaguya slams him with an ash bone and turns him too doritos once again
Madara and Sasuke take on Hagoromo
Not seeing how they take on hagoromo,
they are both bugs compared to him, so they obviously die,
their eyes, body and chakra is inferior to hagoromo,
Obito proceeds to stall Kaguya to their finished then they help him end this. Plus Kaguya doesn't even have BZ by her side her fighting style is to basic to win this alone.
No
 
Last edited:

TRE MERCER

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
May 13, 2014
Messages
13,251
Reaction score
487
yet the same CT he formed in his fkn death bed takes a steamy dump on prime jin madaras CT,
just goes to show the difference in their level,
not to mention that non jin hagoromos halves were stomping madara left and right, so madara isnt holding shit here
Lol sasuke is only half of his non jin self, so he gets clowned by prime jin hagoromo, so does madara, when literally nothing is working against hagoromo here
Just because the CT is bigger that means one is stronger? Stop with the non-since. Madara made multiple CT far larger than the one Vote Sasuke had so does that mean he leagues above him nope. Yes 1 Rinnegan Madara not Triple Rinnegan Madara who in fact would have one shot Naruto within 10mins of him getting his Rinnegans. Madara said the same thing about Naruto and Sasuke yet in the current state he was in they murked him the halves thing means nothing. All Hagoromo had to his name is CT and he clearly isn't much greater than the 2 combine efforts of them since he needed help to Defeat Kaguya just like a much weaker Sasuke did and a Naruto that didn't even go all out.


Lol in fanfic world, maybe,


Lol this is sig worthy

--PS gets raped by ash bones, chakra punches or 80 gods vacuum attack,

--kamui gets evaded, and the moment he solidifies to attack, kaguya slams him with an ash bone and turns him too doritos once again

Not seeing how they take on hagoromo,
they are both bugs compared to him, so they obviously die,
their eyes, body and chakra is inferior to hagoromo,

No
[/COLOR]
Ash bone gets sniped. Chakra punches meet Kamui shurikens before they can even do anything to the Susanoo. Kaguya won't get to land a hit on Obito while he has Intangibility. She'll get sniped should couldn't even evade a linear attack from Kakashi. Please explain how Madara eyes are inferior? He actually has a greater eye than Hagoromo which is the 3rd Eye confirmed by Hagoromo himself. Yea he could take them 1 on 1 but 2v2 not happening as i've said by manga portrayal None Jin Hagoromo is just as powerful as Naruto and Sasuke before vote. Making him a Juubi Jin and making Sasuke older(Also he has Bijuu Susanoo this time) with the help of Triple Rinnegan Madara simply means Hagoromo is out-matched easy. Hell it's even debatable that the chakra he gave Naruto and Sasuke was greater than the chakra he had when he was younger since he had both seals which means he had the combines chakra's on Yin and Yang.
 
Last edited:

ARGUS

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Mar 14, 2014
Messages
6,324
Reaction score
319
Just because the CT is bigger that means one is stronger?

It does indicate that the scale of hagoromos techniques are on a league of its own, compared to madara or sasuke

Stop with the non-since. Madara made multiple CT far larger than the one Vote Sasuke had so does that mean he leagues above him nope.
Sasuke only needed a CT sufficient enough to trap the bijuu, he didnt need anything larger than that, so that example isnt really that valid here, and Double Rinnegan JJ Madara > Rinnegan sasuke w/o bijuu

Yes 1 Rinnegan Madara not Triple Rinnegan Madara who in fact would have one shot Naruto within 10mins of him getting his Rinnegans. Madara said the same thing about Naruto and Sasuke yet in the current state he was in they murked him the halves thing means nothing.
Yes it does,
non jin hagoromo gave naruto and sasuke his power, they are still only halves of his powers, yet they spanked madara left and right,
so non jin hagoromo would rape 1 rinnegan madara with the easiest of difficulties,

All Hagoromo had to his name is CT and he clearly isn't much greater than the 2 combine efforts of them since he needed help to Defeat Kaguya just like a much weaker Sasuke did and a Naruto that didn't even go all out.[/CENTER]

You must be registered for see images


Lol, he is known as the Sage of the six paths, so id say that alone is quite a name,
and since when are combined efforts better than something that can be made as their aggregate
because as far as we know Juubi >>> all Bijuu + GM, despite the fact that bijuu and GM are portions of the juubi itself,
so are you telling me that you think that with ''combined efforts'' they can beat the juubi? Lol

Madara or sasuke, either of them get clowned by hagoromo,

and Lol are you seriously suggesting that RSM naruto and Rinnegan Sasuke > Kaguya? Lol read the manga,
because she still rapes them
Ash bone gets sniped.

Like how kakashi sniped them?
one properly landed ash bone (which is a piece of cake for kaguya) and susanoo gets shattered
Chakra punches meet Kamui shurikens before they can even do anything to the Susanoo.
Kaguya dodges the kamui shurikens, and then lands her chakra punches to rape susanoo, so yeah they are still doing alot
Kaguya won't get to land a hit on Obito while he has Intangibility.
Lol in what world did you jump to that conclusion, she would be able to see and sense his chakra once he is tangible, and her striking speed is well above obitos so the moment he attempts too attack, he gets wrecked

She'll get sniped should couldn't even evade a linear attack from Kakashi.
Lol, she evaded amenotejikara, ON FOOT,
kamui is garbage here,

Please explain how Madara eyes are inferior? He actually has a greater eye than Hagoromo which is the 3rd Eye confirmed by Hagoromo himself.
Since when did hagoromo claim that maadras eyes are superior to his? please refrain from fanfic,
unlike madara, hagoromo has mastered the rinnegan to its max, and with him having his powerful chakra (ALL OF IT), Rikudo senjutsu, AND the Juubis power aiding his rinnegan justus, results in hagoromos eyes being far superior to madaras,

and Lol the only thing that madara could really do with the rinne sharingan is IT, yet the rinnegan itself has shwon to be completely immune to the genjutsu, so madara having the 3rd eye means jack shit

Yea he could take them 1 on 1 but 2v2 not happening as i've said by manga portrayal None Jin Hagoromo is just as powerful as Naruto and Sasuke before vote.
Non Jin Hagoromo is superior to naruto and sasuke,
in what world were naruto and sasuke considered to be on par with hagoromo?, Lol

Non Jin hagoromo gave naruto and sasuke their powerups,
so naruto and sasuke before VOTE are only halves of his power, meaning that they are still quite inferior, let alone on par

JJ Hagoromo >>> Non Jin hagoromo,
so they get clowned here
Making him a Juubi Jin and making Sasuke older(Also he has Bijuu Susanoo this time) with the help of Triple Rinnegan Madara simply means Hagoromo is out-matched easy.
Nope, not seeing what sasuke could do here, and certainly not seeing what madara could doo against hagoromo,
when hes lucky to be above even non jin hagoromo


Hell it's even debatable that the chakra he gave Naruto and Sasuke was greater than the chakra he had when he was younger since he had both seals which means he had the combines chakra's on Yin and Yang.
he most likely has both seals in his prime jin self,
added with the juubis chakra, and greater reserves thanks to superior stamina and the juubi, therefore his chakra here is far superior to what he gave to naruto and sasuke,
 

Itachi 4 life

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Jul 28, 2014
Messages
1,498
Reaction score
196

Nope, they get raped by Kaguya and Hagoromo alone

With what?
Hagoromo has a fully mastered rinnegan as opposed to madara,
has a more complete juubi, has far stronger chakra,
his deathbed CT alone takes a dump on prime jin madaras,
hagoromo clowns him with utmost ease,

Madara is one with the shinju , has the Rinne Sharingan and Limbo.Nothing notes that the sage has any special rinne techs. And Madara's rinnegan mastery is pretty solid.He isn't losing this, he can even win.

ok, but kaguya is there, so she spanks him with no difficulty
Not while she's busy with Obito, Sasuke can fodderize Toneri b4 Kaguya realises that the fight started

In what world can he do that?
fighting=/=winning. he can troll her with kamui for a long

She dooesnt need BZ telling her shit, when she can still rape them with her firepower and hax with utmost ease,

Obito isnt doing shit, constructs are meaningless in front of kaguya when she can blow through them like a balloon through gods vacuum attack, or shatter them with ash bones,
too bad Obito will keep being intangible

@Bold - that is fanfic at its finest, as we all know he needs to solidify to actually warp,
kamui is not doing shit, when its warping speed is comparable to even madaras TSB,
kaguya fllat out evaded even Amenotejikara, and Sasukes S/T and striking speed >>> Double Kamui
or kaguya can just evade the warps with yomutsu hirasaka
uwot m8 .This is fanfic Obito, he gets fanfic shit , gtfo

Madara gets clowned by hagoromo within a few minutes,
Madara>ur fave. He neg diffs Hagoromo,but for the sake of this argument ,let's say he stalemates
sasuke most isnt doing shit to hagoromo either, so he gets raped as well
Hagoromos rinnegan >> Sasukes rinnegan
Hagoromos juubi >>>>>> sasukes Bijuu
full hagoromos chakra >> 50% yin chakra
Shinju >Juubi
Madara>hagoromo
Madara&Sasuke>>>>>>>>....>Hagoromo

In all honesty, they still cant do much to her,
Constructs are meaningless as once they are busted, they are left defenseless, so they die,
kamui is clowned by kaguyas speed, reflexes and sensing
they cant counter expansive TSB either, they aree not evading it,and they are certainly not tanking it, so they die
leaving only obito left, he gets ripped apart the moment he attempts to attack kaguya
Itachi solos
 

ARGUS

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Mar 14, 2014
Messages
6,324
Reaction score
319
Madara is one with the shinju
Makes no difference at all
, has the Rinne Sharingan
Its non factor
and Limbo.
its garbage here, especially infront of rikudo senjutsu and rinnegan
Nothing notes that the sage has any special rinne techs. And Madara's rinnegan mastery is pretty solid.He isn't losing this, he can even win.
Lol what?, hagooromo was stated to have mastered the rinnegan fully,
whilst all that madara has apart from 6path techs is Limbo, nothing else,
so hagoromo clowns him,

Not while she's busy with Obito, Sasuke can fodderize Toneri b4 Kaguya realises that the fight started
Im not willing to debate with toneri, however, kaguya could still solo Sasuke and Obito,
so either way its meaningless
fighting=/=winning. he can troll her with kamui for a long
the only thing he could do, is stall, by staying intangible,
however the moment he attempts to attack, he gets wrecked,

too bad Obito will keep being intangible
too bad that kaguya could see and sense his chakra once he's tangible so he gets attacked right then
kaguyas attacks are faster than kamui, so obito isnt doing shit,

uwot m8 .This is fanfic Obito, he gets fanfic shit , gtfo
but he doesnt get fanfic kamui,
so he cant warp whilst staying intangible,
]Madara>ur fave. He neg diffs Hagoromo,but for the sake of this argument ,let's say he stalemates
non jin hagoromos halves were raping ur fave, left and right,
Prime JIN hagoromo >>> NOn jin hagoromo,
so madara gets buttraped

Shinju >Juubi
Not in terms of feats and combat,
Madara>hagoromo
Lol no,
Hagoromo >>>>>>> Madara
Madara&Sasuke>>>>>>>>....>Hagoromo
even if madara and sasuke are superior, no way in hell is the gap that large,
infact i fail to see how hagoromo is inferior to them
Itachi solos

thats the only correct thing in your post

 

Holy God

Anbu Operative 🎭
Veteran
Joined
Aug 30, 2014
Messages
4,017
Reaction score
164
Madara > Kaguya
Obito <= Hagoromo(here he only has the Six Paths,Truth-Seeking Spheres, and some mediocre techniques)
Sasuke > Toneri
 
Top