Remember when he said fate could be changed. It turns out he was born with Uzumaki chakra and Ashura's chakra. There is no way to be top tier if you aren't related to Kaguya/Hagoromo or is born with some kind of power. Just saying. I am aware that my opinion may be biased.
you know that anything could be invented by kishi and producers, even a new power, to prolong the story...
i don't know if boruto has gonna take all the fight
but this doesn't deny the fact that sasuke has to protect the village, maybe when "naruto is not there"
Naruto is a hokage he can't leave the village, either way like i said, the only way another villain can be created is if its not from this world or its someone who is a stranger who gets a huge amount of power, the villages are not going to war on each other.
You obviously miss somethings . The World is made of Yin and Yang . So the darkness always exist with light . Sasuke had to sacrifice his family life just so Temporary Peace always Exist .
The villages are not warring with each other, obviously to prolong the story Kishi has to create some bad guys but there is no reason for a 5th ninja world war so there probably never will be. 1 villain is not considered a war, it is peaceful, but there will be some scuffles, peace like this is the truest peace you can get in the narutoverse
I am not a hater. Naruto was one of my favourite characters but by the end of the manga, I lost all respect for the character. I had too much expectations and Kishimoto rushed everything and gave a good guy ending, leaving many issues unanswered.
The villages are not warring with each other, obviously to prolong the story Kishi has to create some bad guys but there is no reason for a 5th ninja world war so there probably never will be. 1 villain is not considered a war, it is peaceful, but there will be some scuffles, peace like this is the truest peace you can get in the narutoverse
There is no point in continuing to post an Argument . Clearly you never got my Post . War doesn't specify only large Countries .
The war can have different meaning and idealouges . And Kishi left to Sasuke to stop these kinds of war and stopping people like Kaguya from Emerging . Naruto has to be Hokage in the End can't go all Small Country and order them not to fight .
Now that you mentioned Batsuke, blaze. I'm gonna share something that supports that theory. -Stolen from Tumblr-
This guy has a keen view, he has a point. U_U
"…some punk with a gun"
thereel-sasuke:
This chapter was possible the most defining chapter in the history of Sasuke’s character development to.this.day.
It is also one of the most thought-provoking, intensely heart-wrenching chapters I have ever read. This chapter blew my mind like nothing else, if not only because I’m about to liken Sasuke to Batman.
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So before I get to the utterly geeky point of this post (if the title didn’t give it away…), I want to share this little conversation between Batman and Justice lord Batman from Justice League, the Animated Series: ((A little background info for those who haven’t watched it: Batman is talking to a version of himself who came from an alternate earth where the Justice League is basically a bunch of tyrants enforcing their idea of justice))
Lord Batman: What’re you hiding for?
Batman: I do my best work in the dark.
Lord Batman: I used to think that, too. But what have you ever accomplished from there? Besides from scaring a few punks half to death and putting a few more in jail.
Batman: It all adds up.
Lord Batman: Not fast enough. If you really want to make a difference, want to change the system instead of just patching it, you’ve got to step into the sunlight. Take over, like we did.
Lord Batman: Think about it - a world where there’s no crimes. No victims. No pain.
Batman: And no choice! Who elected you, anyway?
Lord Batman: Who elected you? The problem with democracy is, it doesn’t keep you very safe.
Batman: It has other virtues. But you seem to have forgotten that.
Lord Batman: I didn’t forget! I just chose peace and security instead.
Batman: You grabbed power!!
Lord Batman: And with that power, we’ve made a world where no eight-year-old boy will ever lose his parents because of some punk with a gun!
Now we get back to Sasuke.
He had to live in the darkness with bitter experiences +the people treated him like a criminal/trator and he shouldered all of this by himself, but even so he chose to protect Konoha from the shadows:
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I will deal with it alone; all of the shinobi’s problems we face, I’d come with solutions…judgments and executions …I’ll do all of it.
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Sasuke is going to shoulder all the darkness so some 8 year old kid won’t have to go through the same thing he did.
Think about that for a second, really think about it. “we’ve made a world where no eight-year-old boy will ever lose his parents because of some punk with a gun!”
Sasuke…Doesn’t want some 8 year old kid to be hurt because of someone else’s actions.
Sasuke = Batman
I grew up watching Batman the animated series and I thought he was cool, but his character never really had that much depth to me until I started reading the comics.
Batman is a lonely person. He pushes others away in his quest so stop evil. He refuses help (most often from Superman) because he thinks he needs to shoulder the darkness of the world alone.
He doesn’t want to drag others into the abyss with him because he ‘knows’ there is no turning back.
And that’s what this is about.
Sasuke is that man who is willing to lay himself in the trench so his comrades can walk over him to reach higher ground.
He is willing to lose everything (his reputation, his soul even) in order to stop the very thing that took so much of HIS life away….because of “some punk with a gun”
The problem being Sasuke doesn’t have to do it alone because he is surrounded with people who love him, and people he cares about.
But he, like Batman, is shoving them away to shoulder a burden he thinks is his alone to bear when it’s not.
Strength to overcome darkness comes through love and bonds.
Sasuke doesn’t HAVE to lay himself down because he has people that are willing to reach out to him and pull him up.
Batman doesn’t HAVE to be alone because Superman is there to help him.
Bucky didn’t HAVE to be lost forever because Captain America was there to pull him out of the darkness Hydra had spread in his mind.
Sasuke doesn’t HAVE to lose anything anymore because Naruto—and everyone else who loves him—is there for him.
Like so many characters out there—real or not, Sasuke is fighting a fight he doesn’t have to fight alone.
Naruto is a hokage he can't leave the village, either way like i said, the only way another villain can be created is if its not from this world or its someone who is a stranger who gets a huge amount of power, the villages are not going to war on each other.
so...sasuke want the peace...if someone (from another planet or village) attack a village that is not the leaf...could sasuke protect it? it's utopian that there will never be more troubles, or that naruto can end all by himself
I am not a hater. Naruto was one of my favourite characters but by the end of the manga, I lost all respect for the character. I had too much expectations and Kishimoto rushed everything and gave a good guy ending, leaving many issues unanswered.
He didn't break the cycle of hatred. Why would shinobis stop fighting? Because of a major war where all shinobis were nearly driven to extinction? Even that is not enough to confront human nature. Pein's reflection were of complete truth.
I have seen several posts saying that Sasuke was the one of the most developed character and one of the good character of the series. Well, Sasuke> Naruto in terms of character but what makes him a great character?
In short (for me) he was more tolerable, more relatable, more realistic (in a sense) for me... over Naruto.
But I wouldn't nessessarily say his character is/was better developed than (most/all) other characters in the manga/anime. I'd argue that Kakashi has the best development of everyone.
But that's just my personal opinion.
It's a significant problem when the character is designed to be 'dark, mysterious, guarded'... then again, I suppose Itachi was portrayed the same way, but the reveal of his past/true intentions etc made me more empathic towards him (and adore him more) than Sasuke.
Sasuke didn't quite tug my heart strings as much as he probably should have. Sakura is partially to blame for that I suppose, I absolutely loathe her... so, so much that I can now see with hindsight that it may have affected my opinion of Sasuke on occasion.
But the fact his brother; Itachi and his Clan; the Uchiha take prominence in the plot opens him up to being more developed a character than most others. Because he can act/react accordingly - others just don't get the same oppertunity.
There's a similar effect on Hinata and Neji due to the Hyuga Clan, the Hyuga Incident and the backstory we get from them allows them to seem more developed because a large part of their identity - the Clan - is explored.
But no, I wouldn't say his character has the best development - not by a long shot.
Because he changes grows and regresses just like a normal person. I like his backstory and his character involves actual thought in order to comprehend.
Besides that I like his fighting style and move pool
Itachi was mostly developed so I could never get in to his character and Naruto is just straight boring.
Kakashi seems like a broken record.
Jiraiya was pretty cool, but he died
I lked Madara as well until he got solo'd
Obito annoys me and I found his reasoning a bit weak.
Anyway I liked Sasuke's story best out of all those I have heard. I sympathize with it.
Sasuke's behaviour is quite relatable in terms of reacting to events.
He's badass.
He doesnt use cowardly clones.
He has some swag.
He kicks MC butt or draws.
Always enjoyable no matter what.
Yet how is the world now in the manga because of Naruto's plan? Sasuke's plan had few of the worse consequences which was likely to happen, how does he know everyone would be intent to kill him? How does he know that the other villages wouldn't blame Konoha and would start the fifth ninja world war? Sasuke won't be able to become Hokage also because the people in Konoha would be after him too. Lets not forget this is a manga, where anything can happen, Naruto did what you said was impossible, what you are currently saying cannot be done, has already been done by Naruto. The thing is, how do you know Sasuke's plan would have worked out the same way? A person who wants to erase hatred shouldn't have hatred in the first place, Sasuke's whole life was filled with hatred.
I never mentioned I agreed with Sasuke's plan, i merely stated it was more realistic in the sense that he knows it's impossible for people not to feel hate and not to go back to war some time again. His plan was far from being positive or the right path for it. He focused on how his brother tried to keep peace in the shadows performing actions, a hero like Naruto could never do cause he is a positive hero. For him, a true hero was a hero like his brother who kept everything for himself and focused Sasuke's and the village's hatred towards himself and who let go of all of his bonds to endure the pain. So, in a way, for me at least, it's more realistic than thinking the cycle of hatred can ever be broken. I still admire Naruto for never giving up, fighting for what he believes and never swaying from his resolve. He gives a message that in order to achieve something that seems impossible, one has to fight hard for it cause things in life don't flow over the shortest possible route but, and going by my personal preferences, I like Sasuke cause he represents the way we do sway from our resolves, the confusion that goes through our mind, the break downs we have.
And it was realistic to blame an entire village when 99% of it had nothing to do with it? I agree that sometimes in times of hatred people need something to put their blame on, but its unrealistic to put blame on something which didn't have anything to do with it in the first place. Most people put the blame on things which they can blame with proof, for example, if a man shoots his wife, he has no-one to blame but himself, therefore he usually ends up blaming himself and shoots himself, this has happened on many occasions. Sasuke's true blame should have been on himself, he was the true reason Itachi is dead, he was the true reason Itachi's plan failed and he is the reason Itachi's death went for nothing.
If you think about it, the village did have some of the blame by the fact that it didn't know how to handle things in the first place and Danzo was the one who usually took care of the darker issues of the village. You know how Danzo's nature worked, he didn't like the Uchiha and wanted to anihilate them for the sake of preventing inner wars cause he thought the Uchiha would always be a menace to peace so that's why he did what he did to Shisui and was not interested in any kind of dialogue. Itachi was left with everything on his shoulders...
Imagine a kid who had his family wiped out by his own brother who even put him under a cruel genjutsu and told him to live in fear and accumulate all hate. Then imagine him finally being able to avenge his family and have some peace of mind and then imagine that kid knowing that it was all a lie? i think it's more complex than a husband killing his own wife..... Sasuke didn't know what his role in life was anymore.....I think it's an understanble situation but of course i agree with you that the villagers were not to blame by the fact that it was all kept a secret and continue thinking Itachi as a criminal (which annoyed Sasuke). So in a way i think it is a realistic situation too.
Yet all he did was constantly fail his brother, he acted as if he accepted his brother's reasons and wanted to follow within his brothers ways, but tell me, if Itachi was in Sasuke's shoes, would he have done the same thing?
Sasuke admitted that if it wasn't for his brother, he would have even more hate. Sasuke is nothing like Itachi and can't ever be compared that way. From early age Itachi had already a huge knowledge of what a village was, he thought like a hokage at the age of 7 and after witnessing the horrors of war he got a greater vision of the need for peace. Sasuke on the other hand was a kid that envied his brother's skills and already was very competitive to be able to live to his father's expectations. Sasuke grew up with a lot of hate and sense of revenge and getting power at all costs in his heart besides living alone. He lost all his trust on close bonds. Yes he failed his brother in his ideals but he just wanted to honour the life he led because no one would acknowledge Itachi and how he was so important for the way Konoha was left in peace at that time.
