[Theory] Why Spiral Zetsu not being the creation of Uchiha Madara is a fatal Plothole !!!

[minamoto]

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-this threads speaks Logic i assure you !!..


-Kaguya creating the spiral Zetsu is a fatal plothole...in other words Spiral Zetsu not being the creation of Uchiha Madara is a fatal Plothole....but how??


-the spiral Zetsu himself is the evidence that he was created by Uchiha Madara....Notice well his shape plz :




1-the one eyed face : he got created with one eye socket purposely by Madara to fit with obito's right eye sharingan.....

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2-spiral zetsu's body is an empty vessel designed for someone who got a crushed body to wear it...it was clearly designed purposely by Madara to fit with Obito's crushed Body :


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3-Spiral Zetsus' Poop Mentality :

there's a good reason why kishi made spiral so much interested in Poop (sorry for the word plz)...think about it!!...why Spiral always wondered about humain Poop and Bodily functions??...simply becuz he wasn't a humain who experienced dat but rather a result of an experiment!!..



4-we gota Zetsu creation issue here :

Lets say the Infinit tsukoyomi jutsu never existed in the Manga....thus apart from infinit tsukoyomi, could there be a jutsu or experiment by wich we can creat white Zetsus??....Remember?...Kabuto's experiments on hashirama's cells proves that the white zetsus can be product of an experience......

-also just the fact that Madara was willing to creat white Zetsus is the definit proof that white zetsus can be the product of human experiments rather then them being victims of kaguya's IT......remember?..Madara used inyoton to creat them too!!




-Madara's creating Spiral Zetsu was part of The whole Rin's Death...and everything Madara did went as planned...annd there's no way that spiral could be Kaguya's creation !!



-Now this poses another issue : LOGIC IN FICTION AND PRECISELY IN NARUTO MANGA!!........you know? i heared once a holhywood SCI-FI Director who said : "EVEN FICTION SHOULD MAKE SENSE!!".....applaud this man !!


- i shall adress this issue of "Logic in Manga" in next thread

 

[Djordje]

Great thread I agree

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

Infinite Tsukiyomi creating Zetsus was a retcon used to definitively prove that Naruto was right and Infinite Tsukiyomi was bad. I doubt kishi thought about it that much.
It's possible that Madara altered an existing Zetsu to create Spiral Zetsu, or possibly he just had a wierdly shaped zetsu and decided to let him play with Obito while madara took a nap.

 

[minamoto]

Great thread I agree

thank you bro and Tobidara ftw !!

 

[Angelic.]

every zetsu is a plot hole to you since your fanfic didnt come true.

and his databook doesnt say madara created him so..

i think swirlys plot was dropped. like a seed or fruit made by the mazou

 

[minamoto]

KageBobi me never answer your responces....i keep ignoring you cuz i dont like you!

 

[Bansho Tenin]

stop making another thread about the same thing.

 

[minamoto]

stop making another thread about the same thing.

thing the stop about another thread making the same

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

thing the stop about another thread making the same

Sorry, but you had two "The"s. One point to Bansho Tenin!

 

[minamoto]

sorry, but you had two "the"s. One point to bansho tenin!

it was a kage bunshin !!

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

You need to get yourself a girl mate...

 

[minamoto]

You need to get yourself a girl mate...

what??????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Orochimagus]

Wrong again. While Zetsu are the product of a past human life they do not retain their memories from that past life, thus Spiral would not remember what it is like to poop.

Madara did not use Yingyang to create the Zetsu but was merely made to believe that he did. Remember:

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When Madara got stomped by Hashirama, Black Zetsu took the opportunity to infect his body so he was inside Madara from then until his old age. The Zetsu henceforth were a byproduct of Black Zetsu's control over Madara's feeble mind.

Madara is gone, got closure and put up no fight against Kaguya. He won't be back in part III because Lord Orochimaru has been confirmed by Kishi to close some loose plot points so he's most likely final villain. The sooner you accept you were wrong, the sooner you can begin the healing process. ^_^

 

[Mikeuhsomething36]

1. You don't even know that, there is nowhere in the manga that stated that as spiral zetsu's purpose. It's as if people never heard of conveniences, one could also say that Madara altered a zetsu already to fit that purpose.

2.um you realize that you're point one and point two just go together right? It seems as if you forced point one and two apart. And I'm not sure what fanfic you're reading because NOWHERE in the manga does it support your point, or clearly say so since all of madara's talk of creating the zetsu's had been retconned. And again one could say that either madara manipulated the zetsu or the zetsu manipulated it's own body and shape to fit obito's.

3.and um....zetsu's from IT don't even remember their past lives when they WERE humans, they're either just mindless servants or basically just hollow shell of who they once were. Heck zetsu's are practically without gender anyway and don't retain much info on their past lives.

4.it's as if you don't even read the manga, Black zetsu already stated how white zetsu's were already there BEFORE Madara created them, all Madara was doing was analyzing the biology and replicating said biology, realizing that it was possible to use hashi's cells to make them or at least to amplify their power. And lol what? It's called science, replication much? It's basic biology, has we have cloning in Naruto yet you couldn't put two and two together and see that that's basically what kabuto was doing. You have to analyze the biology first, since hashirama has a strong life force it's possible to make something out of his cells, heck tsunade made an artificial arm with hashirama's cells. But you're going to have to do extensive research on zetsu's biology to find a compatibility with hashirama's cells in the first place. It's not a plot hole, you just don't know science.

Nice thread though

 

[minamoto]

Wrong again. While Zetsu are the product of a past human life they do not retain their memories from that past life, thus Spiral would not remember what it is like to poop.

Madara did not use Yingyang to create the Zetsu but was merely made to believe that he did. Remember:

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When Madara got stomped by Hashirama, Black Zetsu took the opportunity to infect his body so he was inside Madara from then until his old age. The Zetsu henceforth were a byproduct of Black Zetsu's control over Madara's feeble mind.

Madara is gone, got closure and put up no fight against Kaguya. He won't be back in part III because Lord Orochimaru has been confirmed by Kishi to close some loose plot points so he's most likely final villain. The sooner you accept you were wrong, the sooner you can begin the healing process. ^_^

your whole edit reply is wrong since its about black zetsu whereas i was discussing spiral zetsu.....

here's my black zetsu thread where its fine to post your comment

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-and rememeber? it was me who saved you from the orochimaru dispointment kishi gave you in chapter 699!!....remember when you was sad cuz your fav didn't shine in last chapter? at dat time i told ya dont be sad cuz some1 like oro will shine in Naruto part 3 and kishi himself confirmed dat lately!..SO IN EXCHANGE FOR DAT I ASK YOU TO RESPECT MY TOBIDARA THEORY!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Byron123]

OMG I can imagine myself having kids in 10 years from now who will comment on your theory and you will reply back XD

 

[minamoto]

OMG I can imagine myself having kids in 10 years from now who will comment on your theory and you will reply back XD

you always always like to ruin my threads with your nonsense comments? dont you?...

 

[Draven]

why are you continuing this idiocy the naruto manga you hinged your whole life on is over all thats left is a short mini series about the kids of K11 and you still continue with your claims of tobidara being real and that you will prove us all wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt well guess what

Spoiler

YOUR WRONG THE MANGA IS OVER KISHIMOTO PROVED YOUR THEORY WRONG ITS HIS MANGA NOT YOURS GET A LIFE GO SEE A PSYCHIATRIST AND MOVE ON

 

[Orochimagus]

I was not disappointed at Orochimaru not being final villain but at the abrupt ending of the series that did not let some Orochimaru loose ends close out. Part III is going to fix that.

With that being said, I kinda used to give you a hard time over your (conspiracy) theory but I've come to just see it as amusing now after part II ended. Madara got closure and you're the only one not letting him have it.

Anyways, I used Black Zetsu to explain the use and creation of Spiral Zetsu. You can't ignore the big picture in order to use selective evidence for a theory. He's no plothole.

 

[Angelic.]

i get the part where hes saying swirlys shape and emptyness is too convienient to fit obito perfectly without being made for him.

tobidara ftw!