7 gates Gai vs Alive Minato

[~Ethereal~]

Inspired by IchaIchaSage.

Alive Minato also has rasenshuriken, Might Gai has Samehada.

 

[Selan]

Gai is physically faster (by far) and has far better reactions. His taijutsu skill and reflexes allowed him to fend off Obito's CQC Kamui phasing without letting him to touch him and making him phase to not being hit, Minato isn't touching him to mark him with Hiraishin. Nunchaku also deflect the Hiraishin kunai, and Asa Kujaku and Hiru Tora totally screw on them, teleporting is useless with that AoE. But for hell's sake, just compare their feats, LoL.

Minato vs Juudara​

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Minato tries to surprise Juudara with Hiraishin to land Rasengan but Juudara react with ease and counterhits by cutting the attacking arm and then kicking Minato away like shit, with Minato not being able to react and use Hiraishin in both istances. Minato isn't even able to end the attack he was trying, before he is swapped away.

Gai vs Juudara​

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Gai clearly pressures Juudara with his speed and taijutsu skills, without letting him to touch him with the Gudodama staff or balls, and manages to corner him and launch his finishing attack, even if then is countered and defeated back.

Gai stomps.

 

[Ababeel]

Minsto destroys him.

Minato was able to outpace Gai while using the 8th Gate, in its 5th step (I.E the fastest one.)

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So, Gai has no way of touching Minato at all. In addition, Gai has only 1 shot, which will be either teleported back to his face via S/T barrier, or simple dodged via FTG. After that Gai will collapse right away, and this is will be where he dies. If Minato did not speedblitzes him right away, since the 7th Gate is no where near as fast as the 5th step of the 8th Gate.

A>B>C logic does not work especially that Madara faced FTG before, unlike the gates. Otherwise,
Chōjūrō > JJ SM Madara, since he defeated Black Zetsu who fodderstompped Madara. Lol
and Lee > Hashirama, since he defeated Edo Madara with one kick. XD

Or Gaara and the other Bijuu are faster than Tobirama with FTG since they did hit Madara, when Tobirama failed. And so on, and so forth...

 

[Conspirator.]

Gai wins it. I'm on my phone so I can't give a detailed explanation, but 7th gate Gai pushed Juubi jin Madara back temporarily and landed some minor hits on him. Meanwhile, SM Minato got rag dolled effortlessly by Madara when he tried to FTG blitz him, so Gai has better striking speed and reactions. He wins.

 

[Ken Masters]

Minsto destroys him.

Minato was able to outpace Gai while using the 8th Gate, in its 5th step (I.E the fastest one.)

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So, Gai has no way of touching Minato at all. In addition, Gai has only 1 shot, which will be either teleported back to his face via S/T barrier, or simple dodged via FTG. After that Gai will collapse right away, and this is will be where he dies. If Minato did not speedblitzes him right away, since the 7th Gate is no where near as fast as the 5th step of the 8th Gate.

A>B>C logic does not work especially that Madara faced FTG before, unlike the gates. Otherwise,
Chōjūrō > JJ SM Madara, since he defeated Black Zetsu who fodderstompped Madara. Lol
and Lee > Hashirama, since he defeated Edo Madara with one kick. XD

ababeel solo's again

 

[Beans2]

Gai wins.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Minato will win. With knowledge of the gates and FTG, minato will evade everything. Basically play keep away. Longest I've seen guy stay in 7 gate is for 1 attack before its gone (Hirudora). And then the strain will follow soon after.

Minato can react to 7th Gate just like he reacted to v2 Ay. If guy tries a blitz, minato flicks a kunai into his blind spot and teleports to it like he did Ay (doubt guy can spot the kunai and then rotate his entire body and block, that's not possible). Only way minato loses is if he engages guy directly. FTG scattered across the battlefield plus multiple shadow clones, literally leaves guy helpless.

Guy can't make clones so how's he gonna chase all minatos. If they're all running into different directions, guy can only go 1 at a time. He can't wipe them out simultaneously. Minato also has good shunshin, so all the clones will be able to spread out quite a bit and cover much ground.

Inb4 people start confusing Guys striking speed with his foot speed and reaction speed. It's not the same, if he can strike so fast that his opponents can't react, it's not the same as guy reacting himself. Ay's striking speed is also superior to minatos, doesn't mean Minato can't react (while on the defensive). It's offensively where Minato can't react as fast. He reacted to 5th step evening elephant and truth seeking balls fine (while on the defensive).

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Gai used Morning Peacock, and then Hirudora immediately after in his last fight against Kisame with no sign of fatigue, yet the Minato stans that know nothing about anything continuously insist Gai's 5/5 stamina is depleted after just one despite the fact that he was capable of firing off a Hirudora strong enough to obliterate a v3 Susano'o without the strength to even to stand up on his own, nevermind when he's fully juiced.

Then the circus claims that a feat Minato shares with Rock Lee and Gaaras sand is a legitimate concrete feat as to why Minato can react to 8G's "top speed".

The poor guy gets demolished by Gai in CQC for obvious reasons already stated.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Gai used Morning Peacock, and then Hirudora immediately after in his last fight against Kisame with no sign of fatigue, yet the Minato stans that know nothing about anything continuously insist Gai's 5/5 stamina is depleted after just one despite the fact that he was capable of firing off a Hirudora strong enough to obliterate a v3 Susano'o without the strength to even to stand up on his own, nevermind when he's fully juiced.

Then the circus claims that a feat Minato shares with Rock Lee and Gaaras sand is a legitimate concrete feat as to why Minato can react to 8G's "top speed".

The poor guy gets demolished by Gai in CQC for obvious reasons already stated.

Lol at immediately. Guy had plenty time to rest before his next battle. Learn what immediately means. He was fatigued and in serious pain after his Kisame fight. The war didn't start until much later, until guy had to fight again. And morning peacock was used in 6th gate not 7th. I have no doubt that guy can go 6th and still go 7th, but this thread States he's starting in 7th. And quite frankly, can you honestly show me an instance where 7th gate didn't run out after 1 attack, or last more than 10 seconds.

This obliteration of v3 susanoo myth lol where? You mean at off panel incident where we didn't see Madara again for a few pages? Show me where the susanoo was destroyed. Who says Madara didn't just release his susanoo, because what I saw was a carefree Madara chliing like nothing happened. There isn't a single proof at any damage occurred to his susanoo, just like no physical signs of damage occurred to kisame, appearance wise he was fine, just a few bruise marks, not cuts or anything.

First of all, the whole plan was minatos, he instigated the entire move. Gaara had nothing to do with the intercepting the balls and guy, so dont bring it up. Only Lee is relevant here, and that's because Minato didn't have the arms to do it himself. Not that it's important since Minato isn't going to need to throw a kunai to intercept guy. Guys elephant steps>>>>>7th gate speed, so I don't see any issues unless Minato approaches wrecklessly. Which won't be required this time round.

EE isn't 8 gates top speed, Night Guy is. But EE is still faster than 7th gate, and Minato didn't seem to have any problems following his movement in both 7th and 8th. Again, movement speed isn't minatos problem, it's striking speed.

 

[LuckyMan]

This will never end.

 

[Touken]

Gai wins high diff. All you have to do is compare the fights between SM Minato and Madara, and 7G Gai vs. Madara.

 

[Apêx1]

Gai mid diffs Minato.

 

[Bogard]

I'll make this short

1- Reaction speed is useless if you can't identify attacks in time

2- Gai isn't a Jubi Jin. He has no danger sensing ability and thus can't identify attacks coming from his blindspot

3- Minato can scatter FTG kunais in all ranges of the battlefied(close, mid or mountain range). Gai can't blitz him from a distance when he has more than enough time to see attacks coming and dodge in time

4- Minato can also surrounder Gai with multiple FTG kunais. With Gai not knowing exactly where Minato will teleport, plus the lack of danger sensing, he'd never see Minato's blindspot attacks, let alone react in time(see 1)

5- Gai also has no knowledge on FTG lvl2 and FTG lvl2 allows Minato to attack his opponents from their blindspot in an instant. Gai lacking danger sensing couldn't see the attack, let alone react in time

6- Minato can even help himself with multiple Shadow clones. All Clones attacking Gai from different angles using the nearby FTG kunais

7- Even if he somehow survives the assault, as a regular habit, Minato will leave a marking on him

8- With a marking on him and without danger sensing, he'd never manage to identify the attack(whether straight forward/blindspot, directly or indirectly with a clone) before reaction(there is no reaction without visual/sensing perception) and thus could be killed anytime soon. Even Jubito with his danger sensing could barely react in time and sometimes couldn't, so let alone Gai

9- Minato is also capable of barrier ninjutsus. He can conceal Gai in a barrier(leaving a marking behind) and in this scenario where he possess the Rasenshuriken, he could throw one inside with Gai having no opening, ending up dying due to the attack range(i don't believe Samehada can absorb it). If not, he can use the hakke fuin to seal the concealed Gai within the barrier or also aid himself with summoning jutsu. Assuming he summons Pa/Ma, they can finish him with their sound genjutsu

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Lol at immediately. Guy had plenty time to rest before his next battle. Learn what immediately means. He was fatigued and in serious pain after his Kisame fight. The war didn't start until much later, until guy had to fight again. And morning peacock was used in 6th gate not 7th. I have no doubt that guy can go 6th and still go 7th, but this thread States he's starting in 7th. And quite frankly, can you honestly show me an instance where 7th gate didn't run out after 1 attack, or last more than 10 seconds.

This obliteration of v3 susanoo myth lol where? You mean at off panel incident where we didn't see Madara again for a few pages? Show me where the susanoo was destroyed. Who says Madara didn't just release his susanoo, because what I saw was a carefree Madara chliing like nothing happened. There isn't a single proof at any damage occurred to his susanoo, just like no physical signs of damage occurred to kisame, appearance wise he was fine, just a few bruise marks, not cuts or anything.

First of all, the whole plan was minatos, he instigated the entire move. Gaara had nothing to do with the intercepting the balls and guy, so dont bring it up. Only Lee is relevant here, and that's because Minato didn't have the arms to do it himself. Not that it's important since Minato isn't going to need to throw a kunai to intercept guy. Guys elephant steps>>>>>7th gate speed, so I don't see any issues unless Minato approaches wrecklessly. Which won't be required this time round.

EE isn't 8 gates top speed, Night Guy is. But EE is still faster than 7th gate, and Minato didn't seem to have any problems following his movement in both 7th and 8th. Again, movement speed isn't minatos problem, it's striking speed.

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and then activated the 7th gate and used Hirudora immediately after. So I have no idea what are you even saying. Gai was then seen standing over Kisame with his 7G activated, and no sign of any slight fatigue after consecutively using his two strongest techniques [

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]. So there is the proof you requested. Gai was seen going in and out of gates throughout the war to preserve himself for obvious reasons. That shouldn't be confused with a ridiculous thought that the 7th gate is only good for one attack or 10 seconds. Gai entered the 7th gate only 3 times in the entire manga. 1) Against Kisame, where he clearly had no trouble keeping the 7th gate active after using Hirudora. 2) When he had already exhausted himself at his absolute limit, yet mustered up the energy to enter the 7th gate and use Hirudora to obliterate v3 susano'o. 3) Against JJ Madara, while being already extremely exhausted once again, yet pushed him back 10+ meters, initiated Hirudora, and got counter striked; resulting in it blowing up in his face. Based on these three instances, you can't even begin to reach for the thought that someone with 5/5 in stamina can only last 10 seconds in the 7th Gate. It isn't supported, and Gai already well exceeded the absurd notion. Hell, he lasted for quite awhile in 8G where he was continuously attacking the whole time until his chakra and body completely burnt out.

Nah, the off panel feat where Madara went out of commission for an entire chapter. I'm not even going to entertain you on the laughable notion that Madara for no reason at all deactivated his susano'o in order to get directly hit by Hirudora. And if you continue to insist this, I'm not going to waist my time further replying to you. Cut that shit out. Madara was gone for over an entire chapter and lost control of his mokuton restraint on Bee; whom he needed to capture. Everything points towards and supports Hirudora obliterating Madara and his susano'o, whether you want to deny that in convenience for your favorite character or not is beyond me. The Hirudora that hit Kisame was underwater, this Hirudora was fired on land. When the scenario that Gai is fighting under water presents itself again, then we can use it's under water feat. Otherwise, I'm using it's on land feat of destroying a v3 susano'o, because I'm tired of explaining the differences between these two scenerios to the incompetent, as it's not hard to comprehend the substantial dissimilarity.

Don't bring up Gaara, why? Because it makes this claim made by Minato fans sound even more ridiculous? Gaara played the pivotal role in getting Kakashi close enough to Madara in order to accurately use Kamui. The sand cloud carrying Kakashi wasn't seen anywhere near Gai and Madara [

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]. The bottom line here is, just like Minato and Lee, Gaaras sand was fast enough to correlate with Gai's 8G gliding speed. Key word being gliding, not his bodily travelling speed. Gai kicked the air and was moving solely on the momentum from a single kick on a non-solid or tangible substance. Think about that for a second. Everything for you Minato fans crumble when you realize that Rock Lee was able to easily react at the speed 8G Gai was travelling. Not only did he react, but possessing a necessary arm movement speed to accurately throw a kunai fast enough to reach and pinpoint the small hole between Gai and the orbs. Meanwhile, Minato only used FTG which didn't require him to move a single muscle. So what you have from Minato here is a less impressive reaction feat then Rock Lee at best, which really isn't that impressive at all given the nature of this battle.

Right. So correct me if I'm wrong. What you're saying is 6G Rock Lee can comfortably react to EE's top gear speed with a few seconds to spare. Does that make sense to you? Because it certainly doesn't to me, or anyone else outside of your fanbase for that matter. EE gears work with Gai's striking speed, not movement or travelling speed.

Engaging Gai in general is Minato's problem. Superior body movement speed, foot speed, reaction, striking speed, and CQC prowess makes this a nightmare for someone who only possesses close range attacks.

 

[heyguys]

minato would win even if he struggles hard to win. hirudora desTroyed susano established already don't argue the obv

 

[Haizaki]

GL would forever regret replying to FT Lmaoo.

OT: On Mobile these days so I can't even elaborate. Just know it's a High diff win for Gai considering both are CQC based fighters..Minato can't outshine Gai in that aspect once you think of Madara.

 

[heyguys]

GL would forever regret replying to FT Lmaoo.

OT: On Mobile these days so I can't even elaborate. Just know it's a High diff win for Gai considering both are CQC based fighters..Minato can't outshine Gai in that aspect once you think of Madara.

I believe minato win but guy would be trouble for him. minato had one arm against madara he could have done better and was an edo not at 100percent.

 

[Haizaki]

I believe minato win but guy would be trouble for him. minato had one arm against madara he could have done better and was an edo not at 100percent.

Gai was weakned before the fight with Madara. BM Minato had 2 arms against Juubito, what did that do? Still got cut off..Not doing better against a superior opponent.

Seen the difference between Base Naruto and BM Naruto? Whether Minato was an Edo, he was almost at full power and BM made up for all he lacked in his Base state which he didn't even have while alive..Not to mention SM as well.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Gai was weakned before the fight with Madara. BM Minato had 2 arms against Juubito, what did that do? Still got cut off..Not doing better against a superior opponent.

Seen the difference between Base Naruto and BM Naruto? Whether Minato was an Edo, he was almost at full power and BM made up for all he lacked in his Base state which he didn't even have while alive..Not to mention SM as well.

First of all, Im not replying to that essay that FT just typed anytime soon ... I mean WTF -_-

And hashirama would have been cut against juubito if he went up against him as well. Does it mean hashirama will lose to 7th gate guy? No it doesn't. God of shinobi already admitted inferiority to juubito, loosing to juubi jins isnt a sin. Did 7th gate guy land a hit against juudara? No. Did Madara block and counter all those hits? Yes. Did Madara knock Guy to the ground and launch his TSB which would have finished him off for good? Yes. Do I deny guy having incredible striking speed? No.

Striking carelessly with immortal bodies is exactly what the edo hokages planned to do. It was just unfortunate obito regained conciseness at that very moment . Not the point though, the point is I already know there is no fighting guy head on. However there is also no blitzing occurring either. Never seen Minato struggle with anything coming towards him, no matter the speed, when he's on the defensive hes fine. If he can react to v2, with time to spare, he can react to 7th gate blitz. You guys act like everyone against Guy will just strike head on and definitely lose. There's a reason kakashi only admitted inferiority after witnessing 8th gate, he never though anything of the sought before that. Those 2 were always portrayed as equals, would guy wreck kakashi in taijutsu/cqc? Yes. But fortunately kakashi is smarter and more versatile than that. Would Ay wreck the living crap out of minato in taijusu? Again yes, but that's not how minato fights, he has a specific strategy to speedsters, and Guy is no different.

Minato has knowledge of the gates, and is fully aware of its speed and power. This isn't like against madara where he attacked out of desperation to try and buy time for his son and save obito. This is a 1 vs 1, the circumstances have changed. And I have no doubt minato can replicate the exact same feats he did to Ay. Guy may have the best striking speed, but he can react to blind sided attacks, not can he track each individual clone that may be used. Nor does Asakujaku and Hirudora work against S/T barrier.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Gai wins.

This thread has been done to many times before people. ​