[VS] War Arc Gaara vs. Hiruzen

[makosheva7]

Conditions: Hiruzen has Edo Hiruzen feats but he's alive.
Location: Gaara vs. Kimimaro
Restrictions: RDS
Intel: None


Scenario 2: Location is changed to Gaara vs. Lee (chunnin preliminaries)

Scenario 3: Perfect Jin Gaara

So?

 

[Transcendence]

Gaara low diffs the first two scenarios and absolutely stomps the last one.

 

[makosheva7]

Gaara low diffs the first two scenarios and absolutely stomps the last one.

Gaara low diffs the 3rd Hokage in a building where his only sand is in his gourd?

 

[Transcendence]

Gaara low diffs the 3rd Hokage in a building where his only sand is in his gourd?

Yes. Hiruzen has nothing that can harm Gaara's defence nor does he have the speed feats to suggest he can dodge or anticipate a Sand Tsunami, which will end up having him in a Sand Coffin soon after.

 

[super yang]

hiruzen wins all scenes, 1. mid diff, 2. low diff, 3. hi diff

 

[makosheva7]

Yes. Hiruzen has nothing that can harm Gaara's defence nor does he have the speed feats to suggest he can dodge or anticipate a Sand Tsunami, which will end up having him in a Sand Coffin soon after.

KB distraction while he attacks from underground?

 

[Transcendence]

KB distraction while he attacks from underground?

Even if he's distracted, the sand will still protect him from the underground attack.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Only scenario Hiruzen can win is number two. First scenerio is a medium difficulty win at best for Gaara, and the third is an absolute murder stomp.

 

[Beans2]

Hiruzen wins high diff

-Water attack to soak the sand + lightning attack to tear through it effectively busts Gaara's ultimate defense
-Enma pole extension works as well so Hiruzen can poke Gaara out of the skies with it
-Sand coffins can be avoided by Hiruzen grabbing Enma pole and extending it out of the sand coffin with him on the end, so only one end of the pole remains in the sand and it's too durable to be crushed

Gaara wins scenarios 2 and 3

 

[Dannie]

Gaara rapes.

 

[makosheva7]

Hiruzen wins high diff

-Water attack to soak the sand + lightning attack to tear through it effectively busts Gaara's ultimate defense
-Enma pole extension works as well so Hiruzen can poke Gaara out of the skies with it
-Sand coffins can be avoided by Hiruzen grabbing Enma pole and extending it out of the sand coffin with him on the end, so only one end of the pole remains in the sand and it's too durable to be crushed

Gaara wins scenarios 2 and 3

Umm, scenario 2 is the one where Gaara doesn't have the ground the makeshift sand. He can't possibly win with the argument you just made, for that scenario.

 

[Apêx1]

Gaara wins all 3 scenarios low to mid diff.

 

[Beans2]

Only scenario Hiruzen can win is number two. First scenerio is a medium difficulty win at best for Gaara, and the third is an absolute murder stomp.

Ok, so you disliked my post with no given explanation

 

[Lariatoo]

Hiruzen wins first med high diff
Hiruzen wins second med diff
Gaara wins third low diff.

 

[Lariatoo]

Hiruzen wins first med high diff
Hiruzen wins second med diff
Gaara wins third low diff.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Mind as well make it Edo, since Gaara does have seals.

1. Hiruzen high dif
2. Hiruzen mid dif due to closed area.
3. Gaara mid.

 

[KidGamer65]

hiruzen wins all scenes, 1. mid diff, 2. low diff, 3. hi diff

Lol, get off NB.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Lol, get off NB.

Whats you opinion on the first 2 scenario?

 

[KidGamer65]

Hiruzen wins high diff

-Water attack to soak the sand + lightning attack to tear through it effectively busts Gaara's ultimate defense
-Enma pole extension works as well so Hiruzen can poke Gaara out of the skies with it
-Sand coffins can be avoided by Hiruzen grabbing Enma pole and extending it out of the sand coffin with him on the end, so only one end of the pole remains in the sand and it's too durable to be crushed

Gaara wins scenarios 2 and 3

How does Gaara lose S1 but win S2? S2 has no kind of Sand available to him, they are fighting in a building, that's concrete. He has Sand available to him, or at least the materials to make Sand in S1.

Whats you opinion on the first 2 scenario?

Gaara wins 1, but loses 2.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Only have time for one more reply for today. I would like to address how much trouble Gaara has to deal with via Raiton.

Everyone uses the logic that bigger the attack makes the judgement on how strong it is. Hiruzen Lightening is much bigger then Kakuzu's and going with that logic, its stronger then Kakuzu's.

We have witness that Kakuzu's = Kakashi's.

Gaara's will have to face this Raiton plus multiple of them via clones.