Why Rock Lee & Sakura > Anyone else.

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I don't lean towards ethier one entirely but I think medical ninjutsu doesn't get the recognition it deserves. Secondly, I'm academic visionest so I I favor Sakura's intelligence.
Medical ninjutsu never gets recognition the same way doctors don't get it in real life. So its very understandable in my opinion. Your second statement is pretty interesting. Does that mean you normally don't go by the most popular decisions? Since they don't fit your vision?
 

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Everyone knows that Sakura sucks compare to the rest lol except you and sakura fanbase in general so I'm just being objective . Yin Seal is attainable because only Senju or Uzumaki could obtain such feats just like every clan have their own technique. Sakura attaining yin seal regenration was nothing but asspull, there was clearly no indication about storing 3 years. I see some people claim sakura was able to achieved it because of her bloodline in chakra control make it easier for to reach this far.

Compare to Sakura, Lee was a true underdog
Everyone know's Sakura sucks compare to the rest? Ha, keep telling yourself that and further prove your inability to recognize facts. Let me know when every character can preform All of Sakura's feats and your not objective just growsley ignorant plus biased.
You can say her seal was an asspull but she was always capable of getting it so keep spiting your delusions. And Sakura beats your fav effortless also yes Sakura isn't a underdog she's triumphant.
 

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Medical ninjutsu never gets recognition the same way doctors don't get it in real life. So its very understandable in my opinion. Your second statement is pretty interesting. Does that mean you normally don't go by the most popular decisions? Since they don't fit your vision?
Interesting, I don't like conformity but that won't influence my reception of facts.
 

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Interesting, I don't like conformity but that won't influence my reception of facts.
Facts are there to see and use. Not everyone will accept them. The thing with Sakura is that her feats don't hold up to how she was treated in the manga. If one is to look at these feats alone than they would appreciate her more. But when they read the manga they will see when or how these feats came. If feats alone pleases you than its fine with me. But I tend to like to look at the whole picture instead of one side of her greatness as you would call it.
 

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B. Lee have achieved in unattainable taijutsu feats, which is the same thing as Point A. Lee havn't accomplish anything in terms of goal. Lee mindset was to have a match with Neji, Naruto, Sasuke and maybe Gaara and to surpass them including Gai. Pts 1 Sasuke was so weak back then, plus gai stopped the match. Neji is dead so he'll never have a battle with him, and it's debatable whether he beats him in 7th gate or not but compare to Naruto and Sasuke, they have immeasurable powerscale which overshadows everyone especially Sakura( Team 7). Lee has never once won in statistic battle in a 1 vs 1 matchup except pts 1 sasuke and a carbon copy of Lee.
Umm what? Are you trying to defend Lee, if that is the case you are dead wrong about him failing whatever he wanted to accomplish.

His goal was proving he can be a great ninja, which he did. His opponents were people he wanted to challenge to get stronger in the end his goal was being a great ninja. He did want to beat Neji but even more so he wanted to get acknowledged by him. Considering Neji said they would always be rivals, he accomplished that.

And Lol @ it is being debatable whether Lee can beat Neji at 7th gate or not. He does not need that level of power against Neji.

OT: Yeah it is one of the few saving graces of Sakura. Dunno why this came down to vs. Good point even though i do not like Lee being compared to someone like Sakura.
 

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Everyone know's Sakura sucks compare to the rest? Ha, keep telling yourself that and further prove your inability to recognize facts. Let me know when every character can preform All of Sakura's feats and your not objective just growsley ignorant plus biased.
You can say her seal was an asspull but she was always capable of getting it so keep spiting your delusions. And Sakura beats your fav effortless also yes Sakura isn't a underdog she's triumphant.
Not everyone but Sakura compare to most shinobi is just pure insolence, everyone with the common sense knows full well that Sakura shouldn't be compare to anyone with Jounin, HighJounin, Kage, or Godly tiers, and it may not be fact , but there are alot of evidences from all these manga feats the databook that sync well is more enough to make Sakura look rubbish, that I can gurantee as a fact. Why would everyone wants to perform Sakura feats especially the healing prowes when they have special on their own with better tecniques, and better skills. Man You worship Sakura feats as if she's as deity lol. She was capable of obtaining Yin seal due to the plot Lol



"And Sakura beats your fav effortless"

You sound really butthurt unable to handle my statement and now you're just spouting another of your delusional mindset claiming as a fact that Sakura can beat the so called "fav" which you're unable to prove anything in our last argument when I put everything laid to rest. It just shows you how desperately you sakura fans are.
 
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Umm what? Are you trying to defend Lee, if that is the case you are dead wrong about him failing whatever he wanted to accomplish.

His goal was proving he can be a great ninja, which he did. His opponents were people he wanted to challenge to get stronger in the end his goal was being a great ninja. He did want to beat Neji but even more so he wanted to get acknowledged by him. Considering Neji said they would always be rivals, he accomplished that.

And Lol @ it is being debatable whether Lee can beat Neji at 7th gate or not. He does not need that level of power against Neji.

OT: Yeah it is one of the few saving graces of Sakura. Dunno why this came down to vs. Good point even though i do not like Lee being compared to someone like Sakura.
I dunno, I feel like how can he be great ninja if he hadn't prove his battle against his rivals or by overcoming some opponents which Kishi failed to give Lee some screen time...
 

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No Clan Affilation.
No Dōjutsu (Implants Included).
Tailed Beast Sealed Inside Of Them.
No Handed Power Up's.
Just Hardwork On Fleek!

They both mastered their craft (Sakura's Being Medical Ninjutsu & Lee's Being Taijutsu) based on their own merrit and became two of the strongest shinobi of their generation. Kinda feel like their overlooked.
Bravo to both of them on the hard work.

But how sad that Lee has a deeper back story and is a more fleshed out character than Sakura....not that that's saying much.

Yet she's on all the damn manga volume and DVD covers. Ugh.
 

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Not everyone but Sakura compare to most shinobi is just pure insolence, everyone with the common sense knows full well that Sakura shouldn't be compare to anyone with Jounin, HighJounin, Kage, or Godly tiers, and it may not be fact , but there are alot of evidences from all these manga feats the databook that sync well is more enough to make Sakura look rubbish, that I can gurantee as a fact. Why would everyone wants to perform Sakura feats especially the healing prowes when they have special on their own with better tecniques, and better skills. Man You worship Sakura feats as if she's as deity lol. She was capable of obtaining Yin seal due to the plot Lol



"And Sakura beats your fav effortless"

You sound really butthurt unable to handle my statement and now you're just spouting another of your delusional mindset claiming as a fact that Sakura can beat the so called "fav" which you're unable to prove anything in our last argument when I put everything laid to rest. It just shows you how desperately you sakura fans are.
I'm the furtherest thing from butt hurt but you aren't. You've responded several times and not once have you remained on topic instead you've gone on a tangent which involves you spouting nothing but negativity and nonsense when this thread isn't about that. You said everyone knows Sakura sucks compared to the rest, that only confirms that you have a stick up your ass but the real question is how deep has it gone.

I never stated Sakura could beat Lee, I never stated Sakura's the strongest shinobi or the most talented or anything unrealistic. I've only complemented her work ethic and recognized the circumstances involving her abilities and for some reason you can't rationalize that. You have to create an argument to fulfill your need of deprecating Sakura.

Sakura's feats speak for themselves..
She's delevoped an Uzumaki Seal that's requires the perfect and calculated chakra control.
She's she healed thousand's of shinobi's with different injuries at once and almost instantly.
She has strength that can remodel an entire landscape.
She can instantly regenerate wounds that would kill many other shinobi.

Those are strong, useful and recognizable feats that not everyone can compete with and you know it. Fact: Sakura solos your favorite effortlessly.
 
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I'm the furtherest thing from butt hurt but you aren't. You've responded several times and not once have you remained on topic instead you've gone on a tangent which involves you spouting nothing but negativity and nonsense when this thread isn't about that. You said everyone knows Sakura sucks compared to the rest, that only confirms that you have a stick up your ass but the real question is how deep has it gone.

I never stated Sakura could beat Lee, I never stated Sakura's the strongest shinobi or the most talented or anything unrealistic. I've only complemented her work ethic and recognized the circumstances involving her abilities and for some reason you can't rationalize that. You have to create an argument to fulfill your need of deprecating Sakura.

Sakura's feats speak for themselves..
She's delevoped an Uzumaki Seal that's requires the perfect and calculated chakra control.
She's she healed thousand's of shinobi's with different injuries at once and almost instantly.
She has strength that can remodel an entire landscape.
She can instantly regenerate wounds that would kill many other shinobi.

Those are strong, useful and recognizable feats that not everyone can compete with and you know it. Fact: Sakura solos your favorite effortlessly.
Everything up this point was remained on topic, You're the one who's bringing up any sort of nonesense claiming I'm so called "negativity" as an escape goat to act like you know what you're talking about. How does to your standard "negativity" have to do with shifting different subject according to your knowledge; when I've been self explanatory to answer all of your dispute and to provide more details with "comparing other Ninjas" to support my argument more precisely to our topic. But here ya go, I'm a hater for saying fans on NB don't like her? Go do something productive instead of your ranting, cause nobody gives a damn.

I'm just being real here when I said sakura sucks overall and you took that word too seriously. Have you seen how many people talk shit on her, and did you see me say anything about my own feelings about her? You're just to dumb quit throwing around words like an idiot if you can't even use them right. I was never hating on anything. Either you're seriously stupid to comprehend my argument or you're just being too denial at your finest by attempting to make any sort of excuse "by changing topic" to defend your argument.


I never stated Sakura could beat Lee, I never stated Sakura's the strongest shinobi or the most talented or anything unrealistic. I've only complemented her work ethic and recognized the circumstances involving her abilities and for some reason you can't rationalize that.
How many times do I have to keep repeating my self that Sakura isn't worth complimenting compare to Lee . Did I ever mention that you said that Sakura is better than Lee in every critera?? Throughout this thread, I was merely giving more indepth by comparing Sakura to Lee, and Sakura doesn't standout as a ninja except medics ( what good can she do with only medics when statically in 1 vs 1 match she can't beat anyone) compare to mostly everyone. Until you believe that every character should perform Sakura feats implying that Sakura is better than the rest.

"You said everyone knows Sakura sucks compared to the rest, that only confirms that you have a stick up your ass but the real question is how deep has it gone. "

You're really grasping at thin air huh? You are so tough saying that behind the safety of a computer screen like you were overreacting and took it to seriously to my words? I said it Before and I'll say it again I did not pass off as a fact when I said by Everyone!!!!

I keep telling you again and again and you failed to comprehend my statement. What part of any of these words in sentence is a "fact"?? Normally people would understand when I typed by "Everyone", they get the drill because that word was too vague. Furthermore, I'm not referring to the whole anime communities. I didn't pick the right word so I don't have to go through all the trouble just to clarify you.
But when you took the words right out of my mouth You're just looking something to put me into the corner out of your desperate because something is upsetting you.


Sakura's feats speak for themselves..
Meaningless Wank is meaningless


She's delevoped an Uzumaki Seal that's requires the perfect and calculated chakra control.
True but her chakra control is nothing special since almost everyone can access with greater scale

She's she healed thousand's of shinobi's with different injuries at once and almost instantly.
She healed many while many stripped away


She has strength that can remodel an small landscape.
Fixed it for you


Those are strong, useful and recognizable feats that not everyone can compete with and you know it. Fact: Sakura solos your favorite effortlessly.
Your wishful thinking love to deceive you. May God have mercy on your soul
 
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lol no, people like ino, shikamaru, choji are the same as her, born without any special powers, they have learned techniques that are secret from their parents, the same as sakura who has copied all of tsunade's secret techniques.

ino's deflecting juubi bomb feat>anything poor sakura managed in 700 chpaters
 

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Everything up this point was remained on topic, You're the one who's bringing up any sort of nonesense claiming I'm so called "negativity" as an escape goat to act like you know what you're talking about. How does to your standard "negativity" have to do with shifting different subject according to your knowledge; when I've been self explanatory to answer all of your dispute and to provide more details with "comparing other Ninjas" to support my argument more precisely to our topic. But here ya go, I'm a hater for saying fans on NB don't like her? Go do something productive instead of your ranting, cause nobody gives a damn.

I'm just being real here when I said sakura sucks overall and you took that word too seriously. Have you seen how many people talk shit on her, and did you see me say anything about my own feelings about her? You're just to dumb quit throwing around words like an idiot if you can't even use them right. I was never hating on anything. Either you're seriously stupid to comprehend my argument or you're just being too denial at your finest by attempting to make any sort of excuse "by changing topic" to defend your argument.




How many times do I have to keep repeating my self that Sakura isn't worth complimenting compare to Lee . Did I ever mention that you said that Sakura is better than Lee in every critera?? Throughout this thread, I was merely giving more indepth by comparing Sakura to Lee, and Sakura doesn't standout as a ninja except medics ( what good can she do with only medics when statically in 1 vs 1 match she can't beat anyone) compare to mostly everyone. Until you believe that every character should perform Sakura feats implying that Sakura is better than the rest.

"You said everyone knows Sakura sucks compared to the rest, that only confirms that you have a stick up your ass but the real question is how deep has it gone. "

You're really grasping at thin air huh? You are so tough saying that behind the safety of a computer screen like you were overreacting and took it to seriously to my words? I said it Before and I'll say it again I did not pass off as a fact when I said by Everyone!!!!

I keep telling you again and again and you failed to comprehend my statement. What part of any of these words in sentence is a "fact"?? Normally people would understand when I typed by "Everyone", they get the drill because that word was too vague. Furthermore, I'm not referring to the whole anime communities. I didn't pick the right word so I don't have to go through all the trouble just to clarify you.
But when you took the words right out of my mouth You're just looking something to put me into the corner out of your desperate because something is upsetting you.




Meaningless Wank is meaningless




True but her chakra control is nothing special since almost everyone can access with greater scale



She healed many while many stripped away




Fixed it for you




Your wishful thinking love to deceive you. May God have mercy on your soul
All nonsense and still off topic, it's unbelievable. I am not comparing Lee and Sakura , why can't you understand that? I've only stated that share a simularity.

Are you capable of admitting that Sakura started off with only her chakra control? No tailed beast, recognized clan or dojutsu?
 

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lol no, people like ino, shikamaru, choji are the same as her, born without any special powers, they have learned techniques that are secret from their parents, the same as sakura who has copied all of tsunade's secret techniques.

ino's deflecting juubi bomb feat>anything poor sakura managed in 700 chpaters
Sorry each one of those ninja's were born with inherited abilities.
 

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Yep, the only thing that made me laugh, was the fact that Sakura really thought she was on Naruto and Sasuke's level.
It wasn't Sakura, dude. It was Kishi himself who wrote those lines and later confirmed them in the databook. Sakura doesn't have to be as strong as them in order to be on their level. People often tend to forget about this.
 

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but you see.. taking powers like madara did was just smart. its not like he got his powers as a present (after gaining ems).

tho gai is the strongest natural person
 

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Well, for some people (well trained for long time or the chosen one), tailed beast are a huge boost. But in the same time it held you back and will kill you if you are not adapted to it. Like naruto he was born with the beast and he has 0 knowlegde about it. So you can say that without tailed beast naruto will be on different level since he is the kind of NEVER GIVE UP and Trained hard
 

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Sorry each one of those ninja's were born with inherited abilities.
No, they were not, they still had to train just as much as Sakura in order to master their clan's abilities. Shikamaru learning the Shadow Binding from his father, Choji learning to control his body expansion, Neji and Hinata learning Taijutsu from Hiashi..... all of it is no different than Sakura learning Taijutsu from Tsunade. Even with inherited powers, people still have to train to use them properly, even with the rennigan.
 
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