Can Sasuke use Tengai Shinsei?

[Demonic.]

But Madara negs sasky low diff though.

Black Zetsu smashes Fodara Neg diff. Sasuke's Biju PS is overkill. Sasuke can just laugh at Fodara until he kills himself.

 

[Bronze]

Well there's no sufficient proof for either side which is why I didn't want to put much effort into my post. There's only logical arguments for both. I'd never be able to persuade you so I won't bother.

The only reason you won't persuade me is, because your thinking is irrational and you don't want to listen to reason.

 

[Holy God]

The only reason you won't persuade me is, because your thinking is irrational and you don't want to listen to reason.

The same goes to you than. Even more so since you're one of the few on the site that actual believe Sasuke can't use the full potential.

 

[Bronze]

The same goes to you than. Even more so since you're one of the few on the site that actual believe Sasuke can't use the full potential.

I believe that because the manga said you need two Rinnegan and original wielder to use it at its full potential; which Sasuke doesn't meet neither of the requirements for me to believe that. But I seen enough to convince me you're beyond saving.

 

[Holy God]

I believe that because the manga said you need two Rinnegan and original wielder to use it at its full potential; which Sasuke doesn't meet neither of the requirements for me to believe that. But I seen enough to convince me you're beyond saving.

Did it specifically state the Rinnegan? Or did it actually just generally state you need to be the original wielder of your eyes to use their full potential?

 

[Bronze]

Did it specifically state the Rinnegan? Or did it actually just generally state you need to be the original wielder of your eyes to use their full potential?

It stated both.

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[Holy God]

It stated both.

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No it didn't. Obito simply explained how that one eye had an overwhelming amount of power. Nothing suggests that Sasuke's couldn't have twice that, making Obito unable to handle it. It does however state that both eyes show their power when together, which is why Madara couldn't have used the Rinnegan's full potential. I do believe I'm going too much into this though.

 

[Bronze]

No it didn't. Obito simply explained how that one eye had an overwhelming amount of power. Nothing suggests that Sasuke's couldn't have twice that, making Obito unable to handle it. It does however state that both eyes show their power when together, which is why Madara couldn't have used the Rinnegan's full potential. I do believe I'm going too much into this though.

Bud, read the left panel: ''If Rinnegans go back to the owner'', two of the Rinnegan returning the owner.

 

[SMX]

He doesnt need to c it to use it. He didnt c preta path but he still used it yes sasuke can do it

 

[Shanks]

Maybe we have to wait for Borito's Movie or Spin off Series .. Sasuke still remains Interesting character even after Manga ended ..

 

[Holy God]

Bud, read the left panel: ''If Rinnegans go back to the owner'', two of the Rinnegan returning the owner.

Yes. If a person has two Rinnegan, then having both allows you to use their full power. With only one, you'd only have one of your original eyes, thus no full power. There was no proof of the existence of a Rinnegan like Sasuke's at that point in time. It's basically in-between the RinneSharingan and the Rinnegan.

 

[Bronze]

Yes. If a person has two Rinnegan, then having both allows you to use their full power. With only one, you'd only have one of your original eyes, thus no full power. There was no proof of the existence of a Rinnegan like Sasuke's at that point in time. It's basically in-between the RinneSharingan and the Rinnegan.

I don't care what you think about Sasuke being in-between or not. Manga, databook made it clear that it is a Rinnegan like Madara's.

''And you awakened one-eyed Rinnegan, huh'' - Viz translation of Madara's statement.

''The Rinnegan's Genjutsu can be dealt with using Rinnegan...probably'' - Viz translation of Sasuke's statement.

Madara stated its a Rinnegan (specifically calls it one-eyed), Sasuke states his eye is Rinnegan, and Hagoromo later on said it's a Rinnegan. Thus, it is no in-between Rinne Sharingan and standard Rinnegan; it is one-eyed Rinnegan, like the standard. And because it is only one-eyed, it has no access to the full potential of Rinnegan, since Sasuke received through Chakra contact, and it is only one.

Your fan-fiction holds no weight.

 

[Holy God]

I don't care what you think about Sasuke being in-between or not. Manga, databook made it clear that it is a Rinnegan like Madara's.

''And you awakened one-eyed Rinnegan, huh'' - Viz translation of Madara's statement.

''The Rinnegan's Genjutsu can be dealt with using Rinnegan...probably'' - Viz translation of Sasuke's statement.

Madara stated its a Rinnegan (specifically calls it one-eyed), Sasuke states his eye is Rinnegan, and Hagoromo later on said it's a Rinnegan. Thus, it is no in-between Rinne Sharingan and standard Rinnegan; it is one-eyed Rinnegan, like the standard. And because it is only one-eyed, it has no access to the full potential of Rinnegan, since Sasuke received through Chakra contact, and it is only one.

Your fan-fiction holds no weight.

lel. You took one opinion out of my post and made an entire argument against it. I know it's a Rinnegan, I'm not retarded. You're obviously dreaming if you think Madara's and Sasuke's is the same though. Sasuke's is better and theirs no denying that. For all you know, his emphasis on calling it "one-eyed" proves that the full power only requires one eye. Here are some facts:

Sasuke's Rinnegan is better and very close in appearance to the RinneSharingan.
It was stated you need both your original eyes to use their full power. Sasuke has both of his.
Every possible instance of a tomoe eye with concentric circles have came in quantities of one.

 

[Bronze]

lel. You took one opinion out of my post and made an entire argument against it. I know it's a Rinnegan, I'm not retarded. You're obviously dreaming if you think Madara's and Sasuke's is the same though. Sasuke's is better and theirs no denying that. For all you know, his emphasis on calling it "one-eyed" proves that the full power only requires one eye. Here are some facts:

Sasuke's Rinnegan is better and very close in appearance to the RinneSharingan.
It was stated you need both your original eyes to use their full power. Sasuke has both of his.
Every possible instance of a tomoe eye with concentric circles have came in quantities of one.

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Alright, since you turned your fan-fic opinion to some sort of fact that never been confirmed in the manga, get me scans for:

1. Sasuke's Rinnegan is is better.
2. Sasuke's Rinnegan has both the full power of Double Rinnegan.
3. Every possible instance of a tomoe eye with concentric circles come in quantities of one.

I'll wait...

 

[JayeshMange]

hmmm.....its better he shouldn't know how to perform this, let it be a madara sama special tech ....... and even if he perfprms it some how, he'll die too (madara said this tech was developed to take the large no of ppl along with the user it self, so as far as sasuke don't know hot to do FTG, its a suicide tech for him lol)

 

[Holy God]

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Alright, since you turned your fan-fic opinion to some sort of fact that never been confirmed in the manga, get me scans for:

1. Sasuke's Rinnegan is is better.
2. Sasuke's Rinnegan has both the full power of Double Rinnegan.
3. Every possible instance of a tomoe eye with concentric circles come in quantities of one.

I'll wait...

Don't be too proud of yourself after you've still failed to realize the logical fail in your post. You said that Sasuke said it takes a Rinnegan to dispel a visual technique casted by a Rinnegan. That means you must believe that Kaguya's third eye is a Rinnegan, even though the DataBook confirms it a RinneSharingan. That means Sasuke's could also be some advanced form.

1. HAHA. If you can't figure this out yourself, you have no business arguing with me. I'll use the simple case of him being able to use Mangekyou Sharingan techniques with his Rinnegan as an example.
2. Don't know why you even asked this. My post made oh-so long ago stated that there was no hard-proof evidence for either case.
3. Go ahead and read the first two sentences of the first answer again. The Holy Tree has one eye in both tree form and tailed beast form. Kaguya has one tomoe eye with concentric circles, and so does Sasuke. Not one person has two of them.

 

[Bronze]

Don't be too proud of yourself after you've still failed to realize the logical fail in your post. You said that Sasuke said it takes a Rinnegan to dispel a visual technique casted by a Rinnegan. That means you must believe that Kaguya's third eye is a Rinnegan, even though the DataBook confirms it a RinneSharingan. That means Sasuke's could also be some advanced form.

I can tell your reading comprehension is poor. Sasuke doesn't know what Kaguya's Third Eye, so it is natural for him to assume it's a Rinnegan. It doesn't contradict anything to his statement that his own Doujutsu is a Rinnegan. Period.

1. HAHA. If you can't figure this out yourself, you have no business arguing with me. I'll use the simple case of him being able to use Mangekyou Sharingan techniques with his Rinnegan as an example.

Edo Madara did this via Tengai Shinsei. Susanoo is MS activated and Rinnegan for it. And also, he never used the MS and Rinnegan techniques simultaneously.

2. Don't know why you even asked this. My post made oh-so long ago stated that there was no hard-proof evidence for either case.

So instead of spouting, ''Here are some facts'' which you contradict yourself later on, by holding no proof for the said fact, try not humiliate.

 

[Holy God]

I can tell your reading comprehension is poor. Sasuke doesn't know what Kaguya's Third Eye, so it is natural for him to assume it's a Rinnegan. It doesn't contradict anything to his statement that his own Doujutsu is a Rinnegan. Period.



Edo Madara did this via Tengai Shinsei. Susanoo is MS activated and Rinnegan for it. And also, he never used the MS and Rinnegan techniques simultaneously.



So instead of spouting, ''Here are some facts'' which you contradict yourself later on, by holding no proof for the said fact, try not humiliate.

Yes. But you're using a narrow-minded point-of-view here. Both a one-tomoe Sharingan and three-tomoe Sharingan are Sharingan. There's no denying that. It doesn't mean that they're both the same though.

Nope. Susano'o doesn't count as it doesn't matter whether you have eye contact or not. Sasuke's also has the capability to use visual techniques. His lack of simultaneous use is to due to failure of adequate mastery of the Rinnegan. Kurama described this.

The three facts I posted are facts. I'm not saying everything I post is one, but the three I did post are.

 

[Bronze]

Yes. But you're using a narrow-minded point-of-view here. Both a one-tomoe Sharingan and three-tomoe Sharingan are Sharingan. There's no denying that. It doesn't mean that they're both the same though.

No, I'm not being narrow-minded. I explained the reason behind the 6 tomoe on Sasuke's Rinnegan. Whether you're convinced or not, doesn't bother me a bit when I'm making my point. As I said, the 6 tomoe is a result of the Yin dominance of Hagoromo's Chakra, which altered its appearance. It is not because it's a special eye, but rather is unbalanced. As explained by Tobirama, the Chakra sprouted from the brain causes to awake 3-tomeo Sharingan. So, if a stronger and larger quantity of Yin is applied to the Doujutsu, it will surely create more tomoe. It still remains the same Rinnegan as one-eyed Madara, since he stated he wielded Sasuke's eye power while being specific in what he calls; one-eyed Rinnegan is what he said.

Nope. Susano'o doesn't count as it doesn't matter whether you have eye contact or not. Sasuke's also has the capability to use visual techniques. His lack of simultaneous use is to due to failure of adequate mastery of the Rinnegan. Kurama described this.

Yes, it counts and will in here. Every time Sasuke and Itachi activated Susanoo, they use their MS. If Susanoo wasn't Sharingan technique, they won't need it. Madara using it at a blind state simply shows his skill with the Jutsu, but does not defy that it remains a Sharingan technique; both confirmed in manga and databook. Madara used it in collaboration with his Rinnegan to call fourth meteor, which makes it both Sharingan and Rinnegan technique.

The three facts I posted are facts. I'm not saying everything I post is one, but the three I did post are.

And yet again, you contradict yourself. You didn't post fact for Sasuke's Rinnegan holding the power of Double Rinnegan, and then you went on about how there was no hard-proof. And now you're saying you posted fact which you haven't. Either you're a walking contradictory, or someone ignorant of the meaning behind fact.

Edit: It's my last reply.

 

[Omar19992010]

hmmm.....its better he shouldn't know how to perform this, let it be a madara sama special tech ....... and even if he perfprms it some how, he'll die too (madara said this tech was developed to take the large no of ppl along with the user it self, so as far as sasuke don't know hot to do FTG, its a suicide tech for him lol)

Actually he could use it and just teleport outta there