[Question] Was Garp = roger?

[silmarill]

This makes perfect sense

No it does not
These parallels are stupid...
Law and WB like really ? what the hell is similar about them
Coby and Sengoku
really I will never understand how all u people see resemblances in the new and old gens

 

[sage1999]

I dont think Roger was the single strongest character of that generation and I dont think Luffy will be the single strongest character of this generatio

Imo Roger had at least 3 (what I would call) equals: Garp, Whitebeard and Sengoku

What do I mean by equals: think Luffy and Lucci, a battle between any 2 of them could go either way and if Roger teiumphed over, say, WB it was because he's Roger or to put it another way, because of plot

Many ppl put Roger above everyone else, but I personally do not want a clear cut power scale with a definite no.1, leave stuff like that for series like Naruto

Who else do I think it in the same league as these guys? Atm that would prob be Dragon, Shanks and very likely Akainu (he IS the FA!)

And Luffy will need an eos enemy (most likely even 2), so that means Blackbeard will get there eventually and we will still need an enemy from the WG and I dont think it will be smoker, I personally (at this point in the story) think it will be Akainu

I think ppl want too see too many cookie cutter parallels everywhere they look, there are similarities but ... mah you get it

And before ppl start accusing me of being a Garp or Shanks or Dragon or Akainu or whoever fanboy let me i just say that my fav chatacter is in fact Luffy

i acc agree with u so much right now.. Garp was also a D and as it goes Roger himself said that they nearly killed each other so many times..this proves that they were literally equal. They were literally so equal that couldn't overcome the other enough to kill them.Whitebeard ws the man who couldn't be arsed to get One Piece. Sengoku himself said tht if WB wanted he could destroy the world

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which s far only the three ancient weapons could do, and this is no exagerrato as Whitebeard proved, thus he theoreticaly can be higher thn roger

However, WB never wanted to be PK, he just wanted to hv a family. And given things I bet he considered Roger and his brother

 

[scorezor]

I didn't know you were a friend of Oda's? Simply amazing.

When did he tell you about Roger's strength, exactly?

read the manga.

 

[Skylar Knight]

read the manga.

I did, and nothing suggests that Roger was stronger than Whitebeard.

 

[Bogard]

No he wasn't. Manga clearly shows he was a level below Prime Whitebeard and Roger. Prime Garp is more like Prime Rayleigh level

 

[Punk Hazard]

No it does not
These parallels are stupid...
Law and WB like really ? what the hell is similar about them
Coby and Sengoku
really I will never understand how all u people see resemblances in the new and old gens

Some are character traits, some are simply roles that need filling.

Luffy and Roger should be obvious. Roger was portrayed to be in a rivalry trio of sorts with two other pirates, Shiki and Whitebeard. At Sabaody, Luffy was portrayed as having a rivalry with Kidd and Law. Kidd fits Shiki more, as they are both rather hotheaded and outlandish. That leaves Law to being WB's resemblance, which makes some sort of sense as Law isn't as outlandish as Shiki, but rather is cool and levelheaded like Whitebeard with a OP DF like Whitebeard's. Law and Luffy have an alliance, but an unsteady one. Even so, while they are against each other in the end, they are on somewhat good terms. Roger and Whitebeard were the same in a way, though enemies, they got along more or less. Kidd and Luffy though have no such interaction, and have been purely portrayed as enemies so far, same as Roger and Shiki.

Smoker is compared to Garp because he's a Marine who is hunting Luffy. Luffy's parallel was Roger, who was hunted by the Marine Garp. Both Smoker and Garp go against the conventional Marine codes, often opting to act on their own, but still being allied to the Marines. I allude Coby to Sengoku because he is righteous, which Sengoku has exhibited in his ideology that the Marines are for the people, but not blood lusted like Akainu has been. I see Coby being the Fleet Admiral of his and Luffy's generation in the future.

 

[Bogard]

I doubt Law and Kid will represent Whitebeard and Shiki to Luffy because Whitebeard for example was equal(or the closest to) to Roger in terms of strength when i think the closest to Luffy in terms of strength by the end of the manga will be Blackbeard. Luffy will outclass Law and Kid in strength at some point in my opinion

 

[Punk Hazard]

I doubt Law and Kid will represent Whitebeard and Shiki to Luffy because Whitebeard for example was equal(or the closest to) to Roger in terms of strength when i think the closest to Luffy in terms of strength by the end of the manga will be Blackbeard. Luffy will outclass Law and Kid in strength at some point in my opinion

That would be a grand waste. While Teach is Luffy's antithesis, it'd be awful for Oda to waste two rivals, especially when they have the same goal as Luffy. It'd be far more interesting if they kept up because that's more obstacle to overcome=more story.

 

[Zorø]

Whitebeard and Roger were equals and yes both stronger than Garp U_U.

 

[scorezor]

I did, and nothing suggests that Roger was stronger than Whitebeard.

then you don't read the same manga as me , is called: one piece , it is made by eiichiro oda.

 

[jiraiya lives]

Marine ford Garp>Marine ford WB

 

[TheHokage]

I've always considered the three of them in their prime fairly even...for Roger to beat either of them it would take him an extreme difficult fight like Luffy vs Lucci level.

 

[VongolaX]

I wouldn't take it to literal terms like that.

Jinbei and Ace both said they nearly killed each other in the past too, and we can somewhat distinguish the level of the two.

Roger most likely was greater than equal to Garp imo.

 

[A v i]

No he wasn't. Manga clearly shows he was a level below Prime Whitebeard and Roger. Prime Garp is more like Prime Rayleigh level

I can see both of them pushing WB/Roger to high dif. All of them were on same general level. But the gap was good enough to decide the clear winner.

 

[IPulseZz]

What I'm getting from this thread:
Luffy=Roger
Law=WB
Kidd=Shiki
Smoker=Garp
Coby=Sengoku
Zoro=Rayleigh

I can't actually disagree with this except for coby & sengoku lol. Idk why I just think that coby to luffy will be like what Garp was to roger, since he is actually being taught by Garp himself. imo coby will become stronger than smoker in the future. In the latest chapters the power gap between smoker and luffy is a bit too much for him to be a serious rival for luffy :s

Also I don't think they'll be just one character who is stronger than the rest, there will probably be a lot of characters around the same strength.

Imo roger was just a tiny bit more powerful than Garp & whitebeard. But the power gap was so small that it didn't have any effect on the battle which is why it could of gone either way.

 

[A v i]

I can't actually disagree with this except for coby & sengoku lol. Idk why I just think that coby to luffy will be like what Garp was to roger, since he is actually being taught by Garp himself. imo coby will become stronger than smoker in the future. In the latest chapters the power gap between smoker and luffy is a bit too much for him to be a serious rival for luffy :s

Also I don't think they'll be just one character who is stronger than the rest, there will probably be a lot of characters around the same strength.

Imo roger was just a tiny bit more powerful than Garp & whitebeard. But the power gap was so small that it didn't have any effect on the battle which is why it could of gone either way.

It would be foolish to think Smoker'll stay like that forever and Ya I am with u on that Smoker is not a parallel of Garp part. I don't think Garp has a parallel.

 

[Hexuze]

Man, I can't wait to see Coby again.

 

[BrillyMac]

Some are character traits, some are simply roles that need filling.

Luffy and Roger should be obvious. Roger was portrayed to be in a rivalry trio of sorts with two other pirates, Shiki and Whitebeard. At Sabaody, Luffy was portrayed as having a rivalry with Kidd and Law. Kidd fits Shiki more, as they are both rather hotheaded and outlandish. That leaves Law to being WB's resemblance, which makes some sort of sense as Law isn't as outlandish as Shiki, but rather is cool and levelheaded like Whitebeard with a OP DF like Whitebeard's. Law and Luffy have an alliance, but an unsteady one. Even so, while they are against each other in the end, they are on somewhat good terms. Roger and Whitebeard were the same in a way, though enemies, they got along more or less. Kidd and Luffy though have no such interaction, and have been purely portrayed as enemies so far, same as Roger and Shiki.

Smoker is compared to Garp because he's a Marine who is hunting Luffy. Luffy's parallel was Roger, who was hunted by the Marine Garp. Both Smoker and Garp go against the conventional Marine codes, often opting to act on their own, but still being allied to the Marines. I allude Coby to Sengoku because he is righteous, which Sengoku has exhibited in his ideology that the Marines are for the people, but not blood lusted like Akainu has been. I see Coby being the Fleet Admiral of his and Luffy's generation in the future.

Exactly

 

[Forbidden Tale]

It was said that they both nearly killed each other multiple times. That don't make them equal, while it's possible, it also leave room for Garp > Roger and Roger > Garp.

But, Buggy clearly said that WB was the only one who could fight equal with Roger.

So... While Roger/Garp's statament leaver room to every possible scenario (Garp >/=/< Roger), Buggy's statament leave room only for one (Roger > Garp).

I believe WB was stronger in MF because of better feats and he still was the holder of the title Strongest.

 

[Red Swag]

the gaps between roger garp and wb are like akainu kizaru and aokiji. so there you go.