Initial RT Madara vs Minato & Tobirama

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Conditions:

- Madara is alive and does not have his eyes. He does however have Hashirama's Sage Mode

- Minato and Tobirama are both Edo Tensei; Tobirama has one fodder Edo

Intel:

- Manga

Restrictions:

- Edo Tensei regeneration

- Kurama for Minato and Madara

- Mokuton feats Madara hasn't shown​
 
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The duo wins if Madara can't use PS.
 

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Madara low diffs. Perfect Susano stomps both.
 

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Madara low diffs. Perfect Susano stomps both.

He can't use it without both eyes. I thought that was evident. "Full power when you have both eyes" - Has only used PS with two eyes and called it his full power.
 

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He can't use it without both eyes. I thought that was evident. "Full power when you have both eyes" - Has only used PS with two eyes and called it his full power.

Blind Madara already used Susano and this Madara has Hashirama's Sage Mode though
 

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With 2 FTG Users At The Same Time Madara Gets Blitzed...
I Really Doubt That Blind Madara Can React To Either Of Them Using Only SM Let Alone Both At The Same Time...
 
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Blind Madara already used Susano and this Madara has Hashirama's Sage Mode though

No, I know that. We already know Susano'o is more linked to the person's chakra rather than their eyes, but I still really doubt he can access Perfect Susano'o blind. He could have done that instead of using V3 Susano'o which would have made fighting against the Bijuu even easier.
 

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Madara floored SM Naruto while being blind, and dodged EMS Sasuke's attacks.....

I going with Madara because he still can use Susanoo and Mokuton
 

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No, I know that. We already know Susano'o is more linked to the person's chakra rather than their eyes, but I still really doubt he can access Perfect Susano'o blind. He could have done that instead of using V3 Susano'o which would have made fighting against the Bijuu even easier.

Fair enough, I thought the Sage Mode might still let him use his PS, since Kakashi was at MS and still used a winged PS with Rikudo chakra, but I'll drop the point.
 

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Fair enough, I thought the Sage Mode might still let him use his PS, since Kakashi was at MS and still used a winged PS with Rikudo chakra, but I'll drop the point.

That's a decent line of thought, but Rikudou chakra enhancements are far greater than any of the naturally acquired Sage Modes. They enhance your already established chakra. Rikudou chakra drastically enhances it and completely changes it.
 

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Minato and Tobirama have no way to get past Legged Susanoo
 

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In CQC Madara was shown to have dominated Tobirama, but giving him Minato as back up means that Madara doesn't stand a chance in CQC, so he'll have to resort to his other Jutsu. Though that's pretty much the only advantage the Hiraishin Duo has here.

-Madara's first course of action should be to subdue Tobirama's Edo Tensei, or at least find a way to guard against it. Senjutsu Enhanced Complete Susanoo should let him take Gojo Kibkufuda, and Mokuton Jutsu such as Flower Tree World should let him bind and crush the Zombie...since Edo Regen is restricted (Not completely sure if that goes for Tobirama's Fodder Edo) it won't regenerate, so either it has one use of Gojo or it dies beforehand...if the fodder Edo can regen then, all Madara has to do is evade/block Gojo with Susanoo.

-Flower Tree World is going to tough to deal with if Tobirama doesn't have Edo Tensei to blow up the forest. They'll have to actually escape it, and since I doubt they'll have tags outside area before the jutsu is used, they can't teleport out. That means they'll have to escape on foot, and since they aren't so much faster than Sage Madara that they can easily outrun him, he'd be able to corner them in the forest using multiple Moku Bunshin, and widespread Juubi Sized Katon, which also consume the oxygen in the forest, thus making them take in the pollen easier. There's also the fact he can use Susanoo with his clones, maybe 4, not 25 like he did as an Edo.
 

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He showed that feat via Spiral Zetsu. Similar to how Nagato showed his Rinnegan feats via paths.

Except Madara wasn't controlling Spiral Zetsu, nor is there any connection between the two whatsoever. So no, it's nothing like Nagato and his paths.
 
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