[Debunked] DMS Rikudou Kakashi blitzed Kaguya (also being faster then her)

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^^ of course, estamited distance is medium range at the most, so around 10 meters, or slightly above it.

Now just sustract from it Full charged Kaguya's flying speed and Kakashi's falling speed(PS's flying speed + gravity force), which allowed Kakashi to get close to kaguya so fast that it seemed he blitzed her.

^^ How could she react to it ?, hmm ?

Now if Kaguya was stationary, or even both were before Kakashi's so called blitz, then I would agree.

This is my same issue with Sakura who used Kaguya's own speed to get close to her.

That why Naruto's blitz seems much more supperior and real to be called like that:

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^^ see both Naruto and Kaguya are stationary, while distance is about same as with Kakashi.

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^^ next page Naruto blitz her, and that is impressive.

Close-range isn't applicable to characters with the power of Senjutsu, especially Rikudou Senjutsu, who can sense and react to teleportations easily. Either way, I already agreed he did it due to intangibility.
 

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Kamui that was mocked to be inferior to ftg in speed is going to somehow beat Kaguya in speed?

Sounds like BenjimainGaye written all over it.

He's the first guy that comes to mind to make such contradicting statement.

OP you got rustled, ignore it it is fanboyism.
 

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First panel doesn't work for estimating the distance because it's all based on perspective. The entire argument already fell there.
 

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First panel doesn't work for estimating the distance because it's all based on perspective. The entire argument already fell there.

I already know that Kakashi's fan would use some excusse, I am sorry for not calling your character perfect and flawless
 

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I already know that Kakashi's fan would use some excusse, I am sorry for not calling your character perfect and flawless

We should call whole this thread one fat fail cuz OP is kamui hater, you say? Im sorry kamui beats your fave :rolleyes:
 

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We should call whole this thread one fat fail cuz OP is kamui hater, you say? Im sorry kamui beats your fave :rolleyes:

Nope, also I am sure Obito in Kakashi's place would be able to come even closer to RSM naruto's blitz in terms of speed.

But in Kakashi's case it was already really impressive.
Kamui is impressive but without external source it can beat my fav U_U
 

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Nope, also I am sure Obito in Kakashi's place would be able to come even closer to RSM naruto's blitz in terms of speed.

But in Kakashi's case it was already really impressive.
Kamui is impressive but without external source it can beat my fav U_U

Your fave had way more of same external source then DMS kamui, so dont use this excuse, it makes no difference.
 

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Your fave had way more of same external source then DMS kamui, so dont use this excuse, it makes no difference.

well it seems partially true, but can you call it something as external source if someone had it from the birth and it is not sentient being which could think, act on it's own, tell me ?
 

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I already know that Kakashi's fan would use some excusse, I am sorry for not calling your character perfect and flawless

Excuses?
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An example of perspective. One can seem very close when they are, in reality, much farther away.

Instead of mocking me, try forming grammatically acceptable sentences. Why you even bother "debunking" claims and theorizing beats me when you don't even have the reading comprehension of a high-schooler.

We're not ignorant, or in denial. Kaguya can and will beat Kakashi if they choose to fight individually. It just so happens that he did blitz her this one time; not like it matters because she could regenerate anyway. Perhaps, instead of having one of the most gigantic egos I've ever seen on this site, try contributing something meaningful. All I ever see from you is "Naruto/Hagoromo is better; here's why" and "Every other character is irrelevant and don't deserve praise. Here's an essay with multiple spelling and grammar mistakes about why."
 

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well it seems partially true, but can you call it something as external source if someone had it from the birth and it is not sentient being which could think, act on it's own, tell me ?
Then what was your point in calling extra chakra Obito acquired trough his life as external source, its not like his body unable to handle it, not everybody had a mommy that happened to eat godly fruit either.
 

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Then what was your point in calling extra chakra Obito acquired trough his life as external source, its not like his body unable to handle it, not everybody had a mommy that happened to eat godly fruit either.

well the point was that he got it through external source through his life(not through birth) and neither it was given to him since birth...

Anyway I obviously think he deserves that as he earned it through efforts even if DNA was given to him
 

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Then what was your point in calling extra chakra Obito acquired trough his life as external source, its not like his body unable to handle it, not everybody had a mommy that happened to eat godly fruit either.

Weird how he replied to you, but not me.

I might have scared him off with my wall of text that included words used by 8th graders.
He could also be making a wall of text as well to "counter" mine, but it's unlikely.
 

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well the point was that he got it through external source through his life(not through birth) and neither it was given to him since birth...

Anyway I obviously think he deserves that as he earned it through efforts even if DNA was given to him

You may call it by birth i may call his momma as external source, in the end its all chakra that is originally external, so once and for all stop with that lame 'kamui+external source' excuse U_U
 

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An example of perspective. One can seem very close when they are, in reality, much farther away.

Instead of mocking me, try forming grammatically acceptable sentences. Why you even bother "debunking" claims and theorizing beats me when you don't even have the reading comprehension of a high-schooler.

We're not ignorant, or in denial. Kaguya can and will beat Kakashi if they choose to fight individually. It just so happens that he did blitz her this one time; not like it matters because she could regenerate anyway. Perhaps, instead of having one of the most gigantic egos I've ever seen on this site, try contributing something meaningful. All I ever see from you is "Naruto/Hagoromo is better; here's why" and "Every other character is irrelevant and don't deserve praise. Here's an essay with multiple spelling and grammar mistakes about why."

Sure, everything you said is logical and has point, but I doubt Kishi would go as far to prove what you just said.

It is the manga for kids and as that we should treat it...

@bold part, I have never said that other characters are irrelevant, to prove that I like and care for more characters then just Naruto and Hagoromo.

yes, Kakashi is awesome and super Shinobi(no mocking), but I just don't see him being among gods as it neither fits him and neither make sense how Manga instantly makes him almost God, so how should we call it, hmm ?

please enlighten me
 

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Kamui that was mocked to be inferior to ftg in speed is going to somehow beat Kaguya in speed?

Sounds like BenjimainGaye written all over it.

He's the first guy that comes to mind to make such contradicting statement.

OP you got rustled, ignore it it is fanboyism.

Lmaooooooooo. Name drops. I love it. Even though both minato and Kakashi said kamui even with 1 eye is superior to ftg.

But hey when I quote manga scans just look the other way :rolleyes:

Ot:Kaguya wasn't moving.
Your thread now falls apart.

@KG I'm sorry sasuke's st isn't as good as kamui. Maybe next time he plays super power roulette he'll get something better.
 
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Hello guys, I just checked few threads about Kaguya on this and other forums and What I saw make me chuckle how blind or in denial some people can be.

The most arguable is scene where Kakashi used Kamui Raikiri to supposedly "blitz Kaguya"

Let me throw a bit of light what really hapened instead of so called "Kakashi's blitz":

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^^ left middle panel shows Kaguya shooting ash bones at PS in which Kakashi is while both charge at each other at full speed. Also this panel can shows us how big distance was between them. Now to move on:

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^^ bottom right panel shows Kakashi already charging Kamui raikiri in hand while falling down with speed marks/lines drawn around(it means Kakashi fall down towards her as PS's flying speed which must be no joke).

Then bottom middle panel shows Kaguya surprised/shocked while speed lines are still visible around her meaning that she was moving towards Kakashi at her full speed until this panel.

They were very close to each other so that how Kakashi did it.

Kaguya's own speed + intangibility + element of surprise + momentum of falling down(with speed of his PS flying ) = clever tactic to land attack on Kaguya.

However I won't lie that Kakashi didn't help in any form, as him and it includes Obito's as well Space Time ability was crucial to corner Kaguya, however without Naruto and Sasuke.

DMS Kakashi with all Obito's abilities and Rikudou chakra would be stomped so hard that it is not even funny.

Also it was not just Kakashi, IT WAS ALSO OBITO. and before you say Hagoromo gave Rikudou chakra to Naruto and Sasuke also, well he did, but just chakra, while in Kakashi's case it was shown Obito fully entered Kakashi's body via chakra. You can call it rather fusion of kakashi and Obito.

Thank you for reading !

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In the next panel we can clearly see that Kaguya wasn't even moving. The speed lines around Kaguyas face are only there to portray Kaguyas surprise better ,like in the following scan around kakashis face
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Lmaooooooooo. Name drops. I love it. Even though both minato and Kakashi said kamui even with 1 eye is superior to ftg.

But hey when I quote manga scans just look the other way :rolleyes:

Ot:Kaguya wasn't moving.
Your thread now falls apart.

@KG I'm sorry sasuke's st isn't as good as kamui. Maybe next time he plays super power roulette he'll get something better.

But she was, you have no proof to state otherwise as they were clearly speed lines/marks, so hate it or accept it.

Also even if I consider it, then still Kakashi and Kaguya were already moving so fast that by each second the distance greatly decreased, so I don't see anything impressive on godly level that it that Kakashi could pierce her with Kamui Raikiri covering such small distance while using PS's flying speed(which he preserved) + gravity force and adding element of surprise Kaguya was fooled simple as that.

In the next panel we can clearly see that Kaguya wasn't even moving. The speed lines around Kaguyas face are only there to portray Kaguyas surprise better ,like in the following scan around kakashis face
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@bold part, prove that

Well about rest of statements, if you can not see difference between these two panels you try to compare, then pity you.

The lines around Kaguya are moving the same direction she was flying, while in Kakashi case it was indeed element of surprise.

Stop being ignorant and learn difference or keep hating U_U
 

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@KG I'm sorry sasuke's st isn't as good as kamui. Maybe next time he plays super power roulette he'll get something better.

Doesn't really matter since it's good enough to shit on Kamui and your boy Kakashi with minimal difficulties. Go on thinking that Kakashi can blitz Kaguya though, wank is just too strong for me to bother.
 
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