Base Minato vs Mobile Nagato

[Gold Lightning]

That's what I said and the reverse summoning via toad isn't a viable option.

why not

 

[Latios]

Shinra Tensei and Basho Ten'in really save Nagato in this fight. Since FTG Kunais aren't that large, I am pretty sure that Nagato can easily throw them around without using a relatively large Shinra Tensei (The one that is about the size of his body). I think Nagato can win this match with Medium-Difficulty.

 

[Haizaki]

If Minato uses reverse summoning, who summons him back?

OT: I really feel Minato can take this but he'd really struggle.

 

[Apêx1]

That's a load of crap. Nagato isn't within the chibaku tensai range(he dosen't get pulled up) yet he dosen't automatically lose via ring out.

Alive Nagato did not need to get out of his CT range [

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]. You can see where he was standing in relation to his Orb, and you can also see in the end when Itachi, Naruto and Bee landed, that they were only around 10 meters away from Nagato. Seemingly, he has the ability to stay where he is (possibly through Deva), since he can levitate, he can probably counteract the gravitation of the CT on himself with his own gravitation.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

why not

Going to toad mountain should IMHO be considered ring out. Not to Mention he'd have to summon a toad he can fit in, and there's the fact that Sasuke had to get summoned back by Suigetsu.

 

[Apêx1]

Not if he sends a clone to do it.

But then he still teleports to the clone, so not much has changed as he has left the location either way.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Alive Nagato did not need to get out of his CT range [

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]. You can see where he was standing in relation to his Orb, and you can also see in the end when Itachi, Naruto and Bee landed, that they were only around 10 meters away from Nagato. Seemingly, he has the ability to stay where he is (possibly through Deva), since he can levitate, he can probably counteract the gravitation of the CT on himself with his own gravitation.

Yes he did. It's obvious he isn't in the ct range cup the ground he's standing on isn't tore up by ct. Same goes for the ground naruto and Co is standing on.

 

[LuckyMan]

But then he still teleports to the clone, so not much has changed as he has left the location either way.

He can send the clone to spread Kunai and it won't take long. He shunshin'd across Konoha from the Hokage monument and used FCD on Kurama before it could fire its TBB.

>Konoha is larger than the Forest of Death and we know it has a total radius of 20KM (12 Miles):

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>Where Minato was:

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Note: Kyuubi is still inside Village
> Minato returns after beating Obito:

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Note: Kyuubi is now outside the village
>The distance Minato traveled:

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Given the distance he went in these scans and the time it took him, I'm fairly certain he can have a clone spread kunai out far enough to deal with CT. Just my opinion though.

 

[Apêx1]

Yes he did. It's obvious he isn't in the ct range cup the ground he's standing on isn't tore up by ct. Same goes for the ground naruto and Co is standing on.

I really don't see what you're debating here. I showed you the scan which took a dump on your argument [

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], Nagato is clearly several meters from Itachi, Naruto and Bee. Nothing suggests they moved away, or had reason to. nothing suggests Nagato did either, as he is relatively the same distance from them when he is stabbed at the end of CT. I don't care how he did it, but he did. That's all that matters, whether ground was broken or not is irrelevant, he did it while being several meters from them, hence he does it again vs Minato.

He can send the clone to spread Kunai and it won't take long. He shunshin'd across Konoha from the Hokage monument and used FCD on Kurama before it could fire its TBB.

>Konoha is larger than the Forest of Death and we know it has a total radius of 20KM (12 Miles):

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>Where Minato was:

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Note: Kyuubi is still inside Village
> Minato returns after beating Obito:

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Note: Kyuubi is now outside the village
>The distance Minato traveled:

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Given the distance he went in these scans and the time it took him, I'm fairly certain he can have a clone spread kunai out far enough to deal with CT. Just my opinion though.

Again, this is completely retarded when you realise that he is still going to be teleporting to these kunai, which are outside of the battlefield. And that's not quantifiable at all, hardly a speed feat.

>Irrelevant
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Hope you realise now that unquantifiable speed feats hold 0 value.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Going to toad mountain should IMHO be considered ring out. Not to Mention he'd have to summon a toad he can fit in, and there's the fact that Sasuke had to get summoned back by Suigetsu.

difference is sasuke doesn't use clones. And remember there are small toads that can fit an entire person in its mouth, eg a gourd toad, basically shrinking everything that goes in. Besides I don't believe in "ring out" especially in NARUTO where it happens all the time, yet fights continue.

But then he still teleports to the clone, so not much has changed as he has left the location either way.

Why would he teleport to the clone, the clone teleports away from the area and the real Minato sends the Boulder away. Meaning the real Minato is still there.

I stopped believing in battlefield removal a long time ago. Especially when it was shown that Obito does it in every fight. Do we restrict Kamui in every vs thread...I think not. The guy transports his entire body to the kamui dimension, so he's no longer in the real world, yet that's fine. I don't wanna hear any excuses or stuff like it's different, because it's not. Obito uses space time Jutsu to teleport away/transport himself from unavoidable situations. Same thing Minato would have to do against CT. I find it quite ridiculous that a character has a valid method of avoiding a jutsu, but because of "unofficial verse thread made up terms and conditions regulations guide", the character just has to watch and do nothing because for some reason it's not allowed. I can understand if the op restricts certain Jutsu and things, but that's not the case here. And I always try to look at this in a "what would happen if x & x actually faced off in the manga". You got a jutsu, you use said jutsu U_U

 

[Demonic.]

^ if Minato has to reverse summon to Mt. Myoboku and get summoned back with a clone, he may as well stay in mt. myoboku and forfeit the match. Stick to canon feats.

 

[Unorthodox]

really Nagato negs this completely evani tf has gotten into you

Contract Seal > Rinnegan Summons

No Nagato summonings listen to him on there own accord also they're a product of the rinnegan no contract is needed. Plus contract seal will need contact witch is not happening

FTG > Shinra Tensei
FTG V2 > Bansho Tennin

Explanations please?

FTG Barrier > Chibaku Tensei

Lets say Chibaku tensei was to get caught we're would he send the orb? no where but back into the same battlefield were he still gets turned to dust by multiple rocks.

Preat path shits on anything he has aswell

 

[LuckyMan]

I really don't see what you're debating here. I showed you the scan which took a dump on your argument [

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], Nagato is clearly several meters from Itachi, Naruto and Bee. Nothing suggests they moved away, or had reason to. nothing suggests Nagato did either, as he is relatively the same distance from them when he is stabbed at the end of CT. I don't care how he did it, but he did. That's all that matters, whether ground was broken or not is irrelevant, he did it while being several meters from them, hence he does it again vs Minato.


Again, this is completely retarded when you realise that he is still going to be teleporting to these kunai, which are outside of the battlefield. And that's not quantifiable at all, hardly a speed feat.

>Irrelevant
>Irrelevant
>Irrelevant
>Irrelevant
Hope you realise now that unquantifiable speed feats hold 0 value.

Whats unquantifiable about it?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I really don't see what you're debating here. I showed you the scan which took a dump on your argument [

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], Nagato is clearly several meters from Itachi, Naruto and Bee. Nothing suggests they moved away, or had reason to. nothing suggests Nagato did either, as he is relatively the same distance from them when he is stabbed at the end of CT. I don't care how he did it, but he did. That's all that matters, whether ground was broken or not is irrelevant, he did it while being several meters from them, hence he does it again vs Minato.


Again, this is completely retarded when you realise that he is still going to be teleporting to these kunai, which are outside of the battlefield. And that's not quantifiable at all, hardly a speed feat.

>Irrelevant
>Irrelevant
>Irrelevant
>Irrelevant
Hope you realise now that unquantifiable speed feats hold 0 value.

Nagato didn't change position.
The ground isn't torn up.
thus he was outside its range from the get go.

 

[Gold Lightning]

^ if Minato has to reverse summon to Mt. Myoboku and get summoned back with a clone, he may as well stay in mt. myoboku and forfeit the match. Stick to canon feats.

Erm no. The real Minato doesn't have to leave the battle field at all. Only the clone leaves with the toad. The real Minato stays behind to teleport the Boulder away, which is what I just said, obviously you can't read.

 

[Demonic.]

Erm no. The real Minato doesn't have to leave the battle field at all. Only the clone leaves with the toad. The real Minato stays behind to teleport the Boulder away, which is what I just said, obviously you can't read.

Obviously you lack common sense, it should be obvious that type of shit isn't allowed. Reminds me of the Obitards, "Obito can keep teleporting to his lab to transplant Sharingan's to throw away for Izanagi." Smh.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Obviously you lack common sense, it should be obvious that type of shit isn't allowed. Reminds me of the Obitards, "Obito can keep teleporting to his lab to transplant Sharingan's to throw away for Izanagi." Smh.

Ooooh it's not allowed. Sorry I didn't read the statutory rule book of Naruto ninja battle vs threads
Only reason it's "not allowed" is because it works. Minato doesn't leave the battlefield, so ha. Minato can't use his outside markings, Minato can't teleport away, Minato can't use reverse summoning. Where are all these rules coming from lol

Obito, they guy who teleports to another dimension is allowed though...gtfo. At least Minato is still in the same plane.

 

[Haizaki]

What's this argument about? Does the real Minato leave and not return?

 

[Bronze]

Nagato low diff.

 

[Gold Lightning]

What's this argument about? Does the real Minato leave and not return?

The clone leaves, the real Minato teleports CT to the clones location. Not allowed apparently.

So yeah Nagato wins, if Minato isn't allowed to use any viable method of escaping CT, even though he has multiple ways U_U. If this wasn't the case, Minato wins.

So basically, Minato is restricted from using any method of saving his life. He just has to watch and stare at ct because the "rulez" said so.