[VS] Rinnegan Obito vs Hashirama

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The intel is manga - Hashirama has no idea what kamui is, Obito knows about Hashirama from Madara. And he himself possesses his cells and wood release himself.

Obito med dif. He just teleports behind Hashriama, like he did to minato. Hashriama may try to react and counter him just like minato. Only difference is he gets warped with no where to run or teleport to.

With full knowledge, Hashriama wins extreme high diff.
 

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Laughed at some ridiculous points.

Hashirama wins.
 

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High diff for Obito with his paths
High diff for Hashirama with only Gedo Mazo
Med diff for Hashi whitout paths
 

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Feats of myojinmon slamming down on multiple targets?

Juubi's 10 tails say hi.


Any bijuu that gets pinned down either reverts to V2/base or gets sucked back up into the GM, only to be re-summoned again.
The Bijuu don't go back into the Gedo Mazo until their binding is broken, so that strategy won't work. The first one will though, but it leaves them wide open to get raped by Mokuryu(s)

Then hashi has to deal with the multiple bijuudama being fired his way while he's trying to pin each individual one down.

He can hit them all at once.

Then chomei can fly so unless he's close to the ground then he'll escape the jutsu without a problem before he gets pinned.

They come from above. If Chomei is in the air, the Gate hits him, slams him into the ground and pins him. The only way he escapes is if he can dodge, which he can't do.


Mokuton clones get knocked back via GM shockwave, obliterated by tbbs from the ground/sky [since myojinmon isn't pinning down every single bijuu simultaneously], or pinned down by obito with chakra rods.
No reason why it can't.

Lol. If Obito tries to engage them, he gets shitted on. He can't attack one without the others ganging up on him, and they can still use all of Hashirama's jutsu, as long as he doesn't make too many.


Not happening when chomei can fly,
Won't matter when Chomei is bound.

& in any case as hashi is busy going for a grab then obito warps behind him & warps him away.
This is what happens. Hashirama gets attacked by Obito, and then he evades.

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Before you say "hashi will have clones protecting him" then no that's not happening with manga intel. Obito can save his warp until hashi goes for a grab & since hashi has no info on kamui he won't be expecting a warp from behind during that moment.
Doesn't mean he won't evade the enemy's attack.


They get phased through, then obito pins them down with chakra rods. Or he can simply ignore them altogether if you think he doesn't have the speed [which he does].

1. He doesn't have the speed to ignore them.

2. When he becomes tangible to pin one down, the other's hit him, or when he's about to pin one, Mokuton branches sprout and pierce Obito.



I have no idea why you think this works even after the countless threads where I explained how it doesn't. Obito phases underground & away from the pollen, then he resets his limit.

That doesn't cause the forest to disappear, nor can he destroy the flowers from outside of the forest due to insufficient range. Hashirama doesn't have to leave the area, Obito does, and he can't come back and fight until it's dealt with.

A bijuu blows the forest up,
It should be pretty clear that the poster you replied to set up his argument so this would happen AFTER the Bijuu are taken care of. If not, then that's what Hashirama would do.


a juubi sized katon roasts it
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1. If he does that outside the forest, it won't reach.

2. If he does it inside the forest, he'll get caught by the pollen and die. Not only does he only phase when things touch him, (thus he can't phase through the pollen, but he can phase through the ground to escape) he'd be tangible when using Katon. Can't inhale and use Katon in a forest full of pollen and expect to be fine.

the GM takes it out,

Or Hashirama takes care of the Mazo first.

& uchiha kaenjin prevents the pollen from harming him.

Is he going to hide in Kaenjin the whole match? Nope. I hope not.

Not happening when obito can re-summon the GM to whatever location he sees fit.
Ok. Won't matter much when SS or Senpo Mokujin flattens it.

Hashi gets warped while prepping SM, mokujin, then charging in for attack.

Hashirama enters SM instantly. Databook and Manga evidence approve. (When he was revived, and vs. Madara) If Obito tries to grab Hashirama, the latter evades with far superior speed and reactions, since Hashirama matched someone who can move much much faster than SM Naruto can, Shunshin'ing and hitting him before the latter can evade in Base. Sage Mode increases speed, so he'd be much faster than that, and he has Sage Sensing, so Obito is never getting the jump on him. Ever.

Alternatively mokujin gets spammed with bijuudamas.

Or.....Hotei Hands catch them and toss them back. Or Shinsuusenju destroys all of the Bijuu. If Obito tries to warp him, Hashirama evades. Just in case he ever gets caught, and Obito gets skewered.
 
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Obito shits... Hotei gates are a none-factor here seeing as Obito has the Gedo Mazo to release them or he can simply make them turn into there v1 forms... Once Shinsuusenjutsu comes out Obito has to keep his distance the 7 tails will be impossible for Hashirama to put down seeing as it can fly as long as it stays out of Shinsuusenjutsu arm reach which will be easy seeing as it can attack long-range... Also the buddha gets trapped in Uchiha flame barrier and then bombarded with blast tbb's...
 
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Hashirama wins this with high difficulty... with one touch Hashi can put all beats to sleep, with myojinmon the beasts will be forced to go to V1 state where they will be vulnerable to Mokuryu. Even if Mazo can force them to retreat the same thing would end up happening over and over, and Obito is not outlasting Hashi...
 

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Obito shits... Hotei gates are a none-factor here seeing as Obito has the Gedo Mazo to release them or he can simply make them turn into there v1 forms...


Going back to normal leaves them open for Mokuryu.

Once Shinsuusenjutsu comes out Obito has to keep his distance the 7 tails will be impossible for Hashirama to put down seeing as it can fly as long as it stays out of Shinsuusenjutsu arm reach which will be easy seeing as it can attack long-range...

There is no getting away. When Hashirama is already close, he pops out Shinsuusenju and pounds the Bijuu until their chakra receivers are smashed, causing them to return to the Mazo. Combined with the fact that Hashirama has Sage Sensing, and that SS's punches move at least as fast as Bijuu Dama does, the Bijuu aren't escaping shit.

Even if it does get away, he'll catch it's BD and toss them right back, which is GG.

Also the buddha gets trapped in Uchiha flame barrier and then bombarded with blast tbb's...

Feats of Obito using an Uchiha Kaenjin on anything near the size of Shinsuusenju? Oh wait, they don't exist.
 

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Stfu Obitard
God of Shinobi>>>Madara wanabe

You're a loser to the max

Draphsin backed up EVERY single claim he has made and you respond calling him Obitard and bashing characters calling them Madara wannabe. If you knew anything about Obito you know he takes this and hes his own extremely well written character. Also Hashirama no longer deserves that title due to the fact he gets beat by many characters like Obito, Madara, Sasuke, Naruto, Kaguya, etc
 

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You're a loser to the max

Draphsin backed up EVERY single claim he has made and you respond calling him Obitard and bashing characters calling them Madara wannabe. If you knew anything about Obito you know he takes this and hes his own extremely well written character. Also Hashirama no longer deserves that title due to the fact he gets beat by many characters like Obito, Madara, Sasuke, Naruto, Kaguya, etc

With the Juubi jin and/or Rikudo powerup that the Sage gave away, dumbass. Gtfo
 

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With the Juubi jin and/or Rikudo powerup that the Sage gave away, dumbass. Gtfo

And? Does Hashirama not have somewhat Old man Rikudo's charka due to being Asura reincarnated and Senju direct descendants of the Sage

Sure its not as much but his power still originates from Hagoromo
 

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And? Does Hashirama not have somewhat Old man Rikudo's charka due to being Asura reincarnated and Senju direct descendants of the Sage

Sure its not as much but his power still originates from Hagoromo

You're comparing having Asura chakra in him to getting a free handout of half the Sage's power?

Naruto and Sasuke both surpassed Asura and Indra due to getting a direct handout from the Sage. They both suprassed Hashirama and Madara for that very reason too, so I don't know why you're making dumbass remarks to other people
 

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Going back to normal leaves them open for Mokuryu.
Juubi size Katon ends Mokuryu...




There is no getting away. When Hashirama is already close, he pops out Shinsuusenju and pounds the Bijuu until their chakra receivers are smashed, causing them to return to the Mazo. Combined with the fact that Hashirama has Sage Sensing, and that SS's punches move at least as fast as Bijuu Dama does, the Bijuu aren't escaping shit.
Not when Obito can warp himself and the Bijuu before the Buddha comes out...

Even if it does get away, he'll catch it's BD and toss them right back, which is GG.



Feats of Obito using an Uchiha Kaenjin on anything near the size of Shinsuusenju? Oh wait, they don't exist.
He's not catching blast Bijuudama's... Actually yes since it held the Juubi inside of it... Mind you v1 Juubi was the biggest Juubi seeing as Hachibi was the size of one of it's fingers.( ).
 

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Juubi size Katon ends Mokuryu...

Mokuton branches from the forest don't even get taken out by Katon. Mokuryu takes it with little damage.



Not when Obito can warp himself and the Bijuu before the Buddha comes out...

Dafuq? Obito isn't warping 1 whole Bijuu let alone 6 Bijuu and himself before the Buddha comes out. Not like he'll know when it's coming anyway.

He's not catching blast Bijuudama's... Actually yes since it held the Juubi inside of it... Mind you v1 Juubi was the biggest Juubi seeing as Hachibi was the size of one of it's fingers.( ).

1. Blast Bijuu Dama's are too weak to even phase him. He punches right through them with SS and pounds the Bijuu and the Mazo.

2. It held the Mazo, not the Juubi.

3. Lol Why must you twist the manga? First Kaenjin holds the Juubi, now v1 Juubi is the largest?




V1 Juubi was nowhere near the size of this. Ever.



Lol
 

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Mokuton branches from the forest don't even get taken out by Katon. Mokuryu takes it with little damage.
Giant warping Kunai should do the trick as well...





Dafuq? Obito isn't warping 1 whole Bijuu let alone 6 Bijuu and himself before the Buddha comes out. Not like he'll know when it's coming anyway.
I clearly said in there normal forms not full blown Bijuu...



1. Blast Bijuu Dama's are too weak to even phase him. He punches right through them with SS and pounds the Bijuu and the Mazo.

2. It held the Mazo, not the Juubi.

3. Lol Why must you twist the manga? First Kaenjin holds the Juubi, now v1 Juubi is the largest?




V1 Juubi was nowhere near the size of this. Ever.



Lol
L0l So SS is going punch through a blast Bijuudama without damage? Slap yourself... Actually it held the Juubi as well seeing as when the Bijuudama's busted the barrier it was already Juubi... It might be bigger but remember the tails in it's v1 stated dwarf it's body while the V1 state finger is as big as Hachibi.( ). So the size between them isn't much at all...
 

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Giant warping Kunai should do the trick as well...

Giant Kunai's best feats are cutting through Hachibi's limbs. Mokuryu evades or blocks with it's tail.






I clearly said in there normal forms not full blown Bijuu...

And once he again, he still isn't doing this nonsense before it's called, nor does he know when it's going to be called until it's too late.


L0l So SS is going punch through a blast Bijuudama without damage? Slap yourself...


It took 11 Bijuu Dama blades to disable the statue. It clashed with 11 Bijuu Dama from Full Kurama and still took out PS, so yes, it's going to punch through a blast Bijuu Dama, with minor damage at best, and then flatten the rest of the Bijuu.


Actually it held the Juubi as well seeing as when the Bijuudama's busted the barrier it was already Juubi...

-The Kaenjin barrier was made around the same width as the Gedo Mazo. When it started to become the Juubi (Not complete) it started cracking.



But it maintained it's shape until after the Bijuu Dama blasted it. How in the hell is a Gedo Mazo sized barrier going to hold the Juubi w/o breaking? Inb4 "The barrier expanded" when there is no evidence to support that claim. When the Bijuu Dama hit the barrier, that's when the Juubi was complete.

Like I said, let's use common sense.



It might be bigger but remember the tails in it's v1 stated dwarf it's body while the V1 state finger is as big as Hachibi.( ). So the size between them isn't much at all...

Might be bigger? It's factually bigger. You can tell by looking at pretty much every single panel the two appear in. It's finger being as big as Hachibi in it's first stage doesn't change that fact. Juubi's fingers are bigger in this stage, but overall? V2 Juubi>>>>V1 Juubi in size...lol, why is this even being contested in the first place?
 

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You're comparing having Asura chakra in him to getting a free handout of half the Sage's power?

Naruto and Sasuke both surpassed Asura and Indra due to getting a direct handout from the Sage. They both suprassed Hashirama and Madara for that very reason too, so I don't know why you're making dumbass remarks to other people

If by dumbass remarks you mean saying Hashirama is not the "god of shinobi" I guess Im making dumbass remarks it does not make what I say any less true just because your butthurt
 

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Hashirama spanks with or without bijuu
 

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If by dumbass remarks you mean saying Hashirama is not the "god of shinobi" I guess Im making dumbass remarks it does not make what I say any less true just because your butthurt

"God of Shinobi" is just a title. Should Minato lose the title of "Yellow Flash" because he gets surpassed in speed? Keep your dumbass off-topic opinions out of a vs thread.
 
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