About Tailed beasts and Madara in new episode + rest panels from this chapter

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Hello guys, I just watched new Naruto shippuuden episode and I admit that Madara is boss and badass, however what caught my eye is that Tailed beasts didn't try to attack Madara and Gedo mazou once they were caught by outer path chains, I wonder why...

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^^ while Madara was focused on sealing Shukaku in Gedo mazou, there was plenty of time for other bijuu to act and use their abilities to at least make it harder for Madara, also TBB from all of them would be no joke...

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^^ here we can see Tailed beasts being pulled into Gedo Mazou after plenty of opportunities to stop Madara or try to stop him...

and here Kurama and Gyuuki is ripped out of Naruto and Killer Bee respectively:
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^^ I wonder why didn't any of them try to attack Madara, sure Madara would use Preta path but it would actually split his focus and make it harder for him. I know that outerpath chains are not casual one but can surprass or bind bijuu powers, but even then.

Both Naruto and Killer Bee would try to attack him, with TBB, if it takes too much focus then create clones and try to distract him or something like that.

Also why didn't Naruto enter BSM, it surely would help and only make more trouble for Madara and maybe even let him escape or break it...

Was it that Kishi used Plot shield for Madara so Naruto could not enter BSM to break it or push Madara to big toruble ? Beacause else I don't see why Kishi would stick to BM instead of BSM.

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Madara too strong and he can limbo the Bijuu ass anytime
 

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it is quite possible that beasts werent able to do anything because of the gedo chains...the only reason shukaku was able to put up a fight was because gaara ``loosened`` his chain with his sands and somehow negated some of control that chains normally have on beasts(IMO)
 

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Madara too strong and he can limbo the Bijuu ass anytime

well I wouldn't call that:
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^^ according to Madara himself it took quite a lot from him while bijuu only resisted his pulling force, instead of adding attack.

Because Plot.

I think the same...

it is quite possible that beasts werent able to do anything because of the gedo chains...the only reason shukaku was able to put up a fight was because gaara ``loosened`` his chain with his sands and somehow negated some of control that chains normally have on beasts(IMO)

Well that is another of reason why it seems farfetched Gaara didn't loosen even a bit the outerpath chain which caught Shukaku clearly they could act if pushed enough and decided to endure pain instead of avoiding it, hmm
 

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It's obvious that it is plot shield. Kishi had only "that many" chapters left and he had to rush his shit.
 

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limbo used chakra rod and the chains attach themselves to it similar to how obito had the tailed beast against naruto gai and kakashi
 

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what would they do? you do realize that once the chain gets the beast its over, some one has to free them. madara woulda petra all those tbb's or just simply used limbo while they were charging it.

rinnegan > tail beasts.
 

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well I wouldn't call that:
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^^ according to Madara himself it took quite a lot from him while bijuu only resisted his pulling force, instead of adding attack.



I think the same...



Well that is another of reason why it seems farfetched Gaara didn't loosen even a bit the outerpath chain which caught Shukaku clearly they could act if pushed enough and decided to endure pain instead of avoiding it, hmm

loosen is a loose term Lol

i just meant that gaara blocked some of chains`influence on shukaku by holding onto the chains that`s why shukaku was able to retaliate..

anyway it`s just my racionalization because i dont like to explain things from a ``because of plot`` point of view
 

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limbo used chakra rod and the chains attach themselves to it similar to how obito had the tailed beast against naruto gai and kakashi

well good explanation but it still doesn't show why they were unable to fight against it...

what would they do? you do realize that once the chain gets the beast its over, some one has to free them. madara woulda petra all those tbb's or just simply used limbo while they were charging it.

rinnegan > tail beasts.

Of course I do, however Shukaku being able to act prove otherwise. If Shukaku could then I don't see why other tailed beasts could not, even if they couldn't then perfect Jinchurki surely could.

There is no reason why didn't Naruto enter BSM, unless it would be too much for Madara.

I would agree with Madara being able to do that however :
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^^ surely Madara know his limit, and use of Gedo Mazou exhausted him, even without Tailed beasts attempts to attack.
 

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well good explanation but it still doesn't show why they were unable to fight against it...



Of course I do, however Shukaku being able to act prove otherwise. If Shukaku could then I don't see why other tailed beasts could not, even if they couldn't then perfect Jinchurki surely could.

There is no reason why didn't Naruto enter BSM, unless it would be too much for Madara.

I would agree with Madara being able to do that however :
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^^ surely Madara know his limit, and use of Gedo Mazou exhausted him, even without Tailed beasts attempts to attack.

naruto was too focused on not losing kurama same as bee, other tail beast were still knocked on the floor or flying in to the gedo before they knew it, in their reality this all happened quickly. and madara said "oh well, i guess thats all i can do at my current level" as in he thought it would take less time which is why white zetsu was teasing him at the same time saying it was way quicker than obito. u think madara ran out of chakra or something? lmao
 

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The Outer Path chains probably restricted the bijuu and Naruto/Bee from being able to mold chakra for an attack against the Gedou Mazou [ , ] Shukaku and Gyuuki were only able to move their bodies.

Naruto tried to form a seal to release his chakra mode, but it did not work.
 

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naruto was too focused on not losing kurama same as bee, other tail beast were still knocked on the floor or flying in to the gedo before they knew it, in their reality this all happened quickly. and madara said "oh well, i guess thats all i can do at my current level" as in he thought it would take less time which is why white zetsu was teasing him at the same time saying it was way quicker than obito. u think madara ran out of chakra or something? lmao

Well sure I can understand anything except Perfect Jinchurki letting themselves be caught and dragged to statue in such easy way. Sure if it was Madara with SM and dual Rinnegan then I would respect that and admit it as the hype itself about Double Rinnegan original wielder let him accomplish almost anything.

Anyway, well it would clearly epmhasis from Kishi to show Madara being tired a bit after doing it, which hints he would possibly lost if Tailed beasts tried harder, sure Madara recovered from it very fast, so idk.

The Outer Path chains probably restricted the bijuu and Naruto/Bee from being able to mold chakra for an attack against the Gedou Mazou [ , ] Shukaku and Gyuuki were only able to move their bodies.

Naruto tried to form a seal to release his chakra mode, but it did not work.

Ok, sure I get it. However after trying to release mode and getting failure as result I would sure try to amplify my abilities and enter BSM to have bigger chance or at least dying with peace with myself that I tried everything or even attempt to use Clones or something like that trying to distract Madara, it could be waste of chakra sure, but It would be better to try something then do nothing.

Just like Gyuuki and Shukaku tried, I wonder why Saiken didn't spit acid at him... or Son Goku lava etc.

Also If Madara was coating Gedo Mazou with PS then sure I wouldn't even argue, but Gedo Mazou was opened for attack, only Madara was coated by Susanoo
 
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Maybe that chain had a property to bind them from moved by paralysing some of their movement but not to the extent that they dropped on the floor.

Like 3Messiah said, when Gaara help Shukaku by his sand hand, it somewhat help to loosen a little bit that chain gripped over Shukaku chakra.

But Madara just cut it and replaced with new link.

Other than that assumption, maybe 'plot' reasoning for moving a manga faster.
 

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Maybe that chain had a property to bind them from moved by paralysing some of their movement but not to the extent that they dropped on the floor.

Like 3Messiah said, when Gaara help Shukaku by his sand hand, it somewhat help to loosen a little bit that chain gripped over Shukaku chakra.

But Madara just cut it and replaced with new link.

Other than that assumption, maybe 'plot' reasoning for moving a manga faster.

Well I lean more towards latter option, also the reason Naruto didn't enter BSM pretty much confirm it U_U
 
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