[Discussion] How strong must Yamamoto been?!

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Holy cow!!! How strong was Yamamoto to take on this Badass of a dude Juha Bach. Zzz


Still wondering how Yamamoto wasn't in the Squad Zero.. despite being the strongest Shinigami in existence.
 

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the 0 squad are supposed to be equal or stronger than yamamoto G
The squad zero is stronger than the gotie 13 combined and let's be honest here yamamoto power alone is almost equal to all the Gotie 13 combined :/ and make a huge amount of the power of the gotie 13, probably 50-60% of there total power while the other 50% is made up by the other captains.

The only one from the squad zero that is as strong as yamamoto is ichibie so far while the creator of the Zanpakto is below him but not that far.

yamamoto BANKAI is just too OP tbh.

I hope they show his backstory so we know how yamamoto took down juha BACH in the past.
 
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The squad zero is stronger than the gotie 13 combined and let's be honest here yamamoto power alone is almost equal to all the Gotie 13 combined :/ and make a huge amount of the power of the gotie 13, probably 50-60% of there total power while the other 50% is made up by the other captains.

The only one from the squad zero that is as strong as yamamoto is ichibie so far while the creator of the Zanpakto is below him but not that far.

yamamoto BANKAI is just too OP tbh.

I hope they show his backstory so we know how yamamoto took down juha BACH in the past.
this is so wrong. It's been stated (can't post scans since am using my phone) that the power of squad zero is greater that the combined power of the gotsei 13. Squad zero is the personal bodyguard of the SK so I don't know how someone not in that group can be stronger than anyone of them. Don't get me wrong,Yamamoto is scary and as soon as he died,squad zero had to get involved but the members of squad zero are above him. Juha didn't even fight Yamamoto but his well involved with squad zero. That has to tell you something
 

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this is so wrong. It's been stated (can't post scans since am using my phone) that the power of squad zero is greater that the combined power of the gotsei 13. Squad zero is the personal bodyguard of the SK so I don't know how someone not in that group can be stronger than anyone of them. Don't get me wrong,Yamamoto is scary and as soon as he died,squad zero had to get involved but the members of squad zero are above him. Juha didn't even fight Yamamoto but his well involved with squad zero. That has to tell you something
The quote is along the lines of their combined strength is greater than the Gotei 13. Which at first sounds intimidating, but really isn't.

The Gotei 13 is a joke honestly. Only the Captains and Lieutenants can do anything... And even then it's really a handful of captains that have great power.

Based on feats, Yamamoto can solo the Gotei 13 alone. No one can stop Zanka no Tachi.

The Zero division are people that seem to be at a level a bit below Yama-Ji. Ichibei is probably on par with Yamamoto, but still loses because of Yama's bankai advantage.

All it takes is a couple of them ganging up on Yamamoto to stall him, while the remaining 2/3 solo the G-13.

Unohana, Shunsui, and a healthy Ukitake would be the only people with the brains AND brawns to give them a legitimate fight....but they won't last.

So really the Gotei 13 are a small handful of capable fighters and a lot of cloth to cut through. Yamamoto, Unohana, Shunsui, Ukitake, Byakuya, Zaraki, and a prepared Mayuri are basically the core of the Gotei 13.

Byakuya doesn't have the fire power.
Mayuri doesn't have the fire power.
Zaraki doesn't have the brains.

Shunsui, Ukitake, and Unohana have both...but are still out played by hype (0 Squad is likely ranged from them to Yamamoto which is a decent gap).

So yeah it makes sense they can defeat the G-13. All you have to do is stall Yamamoto, and then mopping the trash that is everyone else.
 

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this is so wrong. It's been stated (can't post scans since am using my phone) that the power of squad zero is greater that the combined power of the gotsei 13. Squad zero is the personal bodyguard of the SK so I don't know how someone not in that group can be stronger than anyone of them. Don't get me wrong,Yamamoto is scary and as soon as he died,squad zero had to get involved but the members of squad zero are above him. Juha didn't even fight Yamamoto but his well involved with squad zero. That has to tell you something

Squad 0 being above G13 won't put individual members of S0 above Yamaji. I can't post a wall. So, I'll try to explain it in simple manner

Lets say that all of G13(without Yamaji) = 2 Yamaji's. (I don't think then are that strong).

S0 members are a bit closer to Yamaji's level. So,, we can say that 3 members of S0 > 2 Yamaji's, it means that 3 members of s0 are more than enough to take care of all g13 except Yamaji. And it leaves Yamaji from G13 and remaining 2 members of S0. I am pretty sure 2 of them are more than enough to take care of Yamaji. But they'd lose against him in a one on one battle.
 

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The quote is along the lines of their combined strength is greater than the Gotei 13. Which at first sounds intimidating, but really isn't.

The Gotei 13 is a joke honestly. Only the Captains and Lieutenants can do anything... And even then it's really a handful of captains that have great power.

Based on feats, Yamamoto can solo the Gotei 13 alone. No one can stop Zanka no Tachi.

The Zero division are people that seem to be at a level a bit below Yama-Ji. Ichibei is probably on par with Yamamoto, but still loses because of Yama's bankai advantage.

All it takes is a couple of them ganging up on Yamamoto to stall him, while the remaining 2/3 solo the G-13.

Unohana, Shunsui, and a healthy Ukitake would be the only people with the brains AND brawns to give them a legitimate fight....but they won't last.

So really the Gotei 13 are a small handful of capable fighters and a lot of cloth to cut through. Yamamoto, Unohana, Shunsui, Ukitake, Byakuya, Zaraki, and a prepared Mayuri are basically the core of the Gotei 13.

Byakuya doesn't have the fire power.
Mayuri doesn't have the fire power.
Zaraki doesn't have the brains.

Shunsui, Ukitake, and Unohana have both...but are still out played by hype (0 Squad is likely ranged from them to Yamamoto which is a decent gap).

So yeah it makes sense they can defeat the G-13. All you have to do is stall Yamamoto, and then mopping the trash that is everyone else.
so why didn't Yamaji get picked as a member of S0? I mean if he's as strong as what you make him out to be,he should be in that squad
 

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According to Yhwach, Yamamoto is strong to be SWP, but he didn't listed him because he become soft during 1000 years.

We still need to see what is SWP actually. Possible SWPs (+Yamamoto) are bad match ups for Yhwach.

Yamamoto has something to invent in order to be RG.
 

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the 0 squad are supposed to be equal or stronger than yamamoto G
Never stated or implied.

this is so wrong. It's been stated (can't post scans since am using my phone) that the power of squad zero is greater that the combined power of the gotsei 13. Squad zero is the personal bodyguard of the SK so I don't know how someone not in that group can be stronger than anyone of them. Don't get me wrong,Yamamoto is scary and as soon as he died,squad zero had to get involved but the members of squad zero are above him. Juha didn't even fight Yamamoto but his well involved with squad zero. That has to tell you something
No it's really not. It was stated that they are stronger, after Yamamoto died. Even if he was included in statament that still don't prove that anyone from RG > Yamamoto. Also, Aizen was sure to take down RG, while he never had guts to go agianst Yama 1 vs 1.

Mostly (if not all) RG were under Yamamoto for some time, so I don't see why that is weird for them to be weaker than leader.
 

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Never stated or implied.



No it's really not. It was stated that they are stronger, after Yamamoto died. Even if he was included in statament that still don't prove that anyone from RG > Yamamoto. Also, Aizen was sure to take down RG, while he never had guts to go agianst Yama 1 vs 1.

Mostly (if not all) RG were under Yamamoto for some time, so I don't see why that is weird for them to be weaker than leader.
If Aizen even stepped a foot inside the Royal palace, he would have got his ass handed to him by Squad Zero. Ohetsu would probably one shot him.
 

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But what some of you guys are forgetting is.. that Yamamoto is the guy who beat Juha BAch, the same guy who would destroy Squad 0.

If Aizen even stepped a foot inside the Royal palace, he would have got his ass handed to him by Squad Zero. Ohetsu would probably one shot him.
noo he wouldn't have.. lol. Maybe in a 4 vs 1 yea, but in a 1 vs 1.. nah.
 

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Its seems I'm mistaken I was referring to this apparently. But clearly that includes Yamamoto there odds seem good according to this. Don't you think? Lol

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I would say that didn't refer to Yamamoto because RG still didn't show anything except for Ichibei that would put them even close to Yamamoto.

Also, even if that includes Yamamoto. That still don't prove that anyone of them is stronger than him, let alone all of them.
 

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The quote is along the lines of their combined strength is greater than the Gotei 13. Which at first sounds intimidating, but really isn't.

The Gotei 13 is a joke honestly. Only the Captains and Lieutenants can do anything... And even then it's really a handful of captains that have great power.

Based on feats, Yamamoto can solo the Gotei 13 alone. No one can stop Zanka no Tachi.

The Zero division are people that seem to be at a level a bit below Yama-Ji. Ichibei is probably on par with Yamamoto, but still loses because of Yama's bankai advantage.

All it takes is a couple of them ganging up on Yamamoto to stall him, while the remaining 2/3 solo the G-13.

Unohana, Shunsui, and a healthy Ukitake would be the only people with the brains AND brawns to give them a legitimate fight....but they won't last.

So really the Gotei 13 are a small handful of capable fighters and a lot of cloth to cut through. Yamamoto, Unohana, Shunsui, Ukitake, Byakuya, Zaraki, and a prepared Mayuri are basically the core of the Gotei 13.

Byakuya doesn't have the fire power.
Mayuri doesn't have the fire power.
Zaraki doesn't have the brains.

Shunsui, Ukitake, and Unohana have both...but are still out played by hype (0 Squad is likely ranged from them to Yamamoto which is a decent gap).

So yeah it makes sense they can defeat the G-13. All you have to do is stall Yamamoto, and then mopping the trash that is everyone else.
Byakuya does not have the fire power?...zaraki don't need brains all he has to do is remove his eye patch...an like myuri said ever one is just a common person when compared to him.
 
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