the mentality of kishi - he was a nerd who was bullied in school

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And we have an internet psychologist at our hand who knows all about everything and everyone.

Anyway he got to make a name and money for himself and has people like you and me talking about him. A lot of people wish to change their place with him or want to get some attention riding on his coat tail I mean by talking about him on little corners on net. Not a bad performance by a small town shy and bullied kid. ^^
i am merely speculating, and i think from all i have gathered i am probably right about kishi

it is more about kishis personality then his success
i get some bad ideas bout him if he wasnt aware of how wrong the morals in his manga were
either he made a whole load of mistakes or he really does think like that and i think its probably the latter.
 

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true nothing stopping rich as fuk kishi from sayin dat shit

hell he already said sakura would be a terrible woman if she left a guy who almost choked her to death lol

srsly thinking if kishi is a misogynist or just plain autistic
cant tell which one it is
Link me the interview please. I want the exact context..
 

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i am merely speculating, and i think from all i have gathered i am probably right about kishi

it is more about kishis personality then his success
i get some bad ideas bout him if he wasnt aware of how wrong the morals in his manga were
either he made a whole load of mistakes or he really does think like that and i think its probably the later.
Of course you would only get bad ideas. ^^ Not surprising who specifically joined the forum to troll but little intention of actual discussions. But enough time has passed. Don't you think it's time you step up a bit in positive direction and move on if you wish to hang on to a forum? Don't you people get tired of trolling and bashing all the time ? For a guy who understand 'psychology' so well to present us such a 'great analysis' don't you think of more productive ways to spend your time?
 

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Of course you would only get bad ideas. ^^ Not surprising who specifically joined the forum to troll but little intention of actual discussions. But enough time has passed. Don't you think it's time you step up a bit in positive direction and move on if you wish to hang on to a forum? Don't you people get tired of trolling and bashing all the time ? For a guy who understand 'psychology' so well to present us such a 'great analysis' don't you think of more productive ways to spend your time?
i might be bashing but i am not trolling! really, i am an honest person who says what he thinks
i dont make up lies to mess with ppl

really i have spoken positively of kishi too
like i like tobirama nad kakashi and have praised em even here
but they dont do anything now and theres nothing but negativity for me
 

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But it saying that switching over love to Naruto would make her a terrible women not that leaving Sasuke.

And did he say it was before HInata's confession or after? Even her fake confession in an attempt to make Naruto let go of the promise to her gets her flamed even now. Do you think all the many of the fandom wouldn't be bashing on her calling her "terrible woman" if Sakura seriously went for Naruto after the confession?
 

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Thank you!

But it saying that switching over love to Naruto would make her a terrible women not that leaving Sasuke.

And did he say it was before HInata's confession or after? Even her fake confession in an attempt to make Naruto let go of the promise to her gets her flamed even now. Do you think all the many of the fandom wouldn't be bashing on her calling her "terrible woman" if Sakura seriously went for Naruto after the confession?
np

but isnt that the same thing? and kishi assumes theres no one for sakura to switch over too other then naruto
shes not allowed to let go of sasuke even after he almost killed her! why is that and why would she be a terrible woman if she left a man who tried to kill her?

and the hypocrisy
nardo left sakura despite her being his first love for hinata and yet he isnt a terrible man for doing that

i would admit that would be a bad thing to do after lying to nardo like that but its more about sakura being a terrible woman for leaving sasuke
 

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i might be bashing but i am not trolling! really, i am an honest person who says what he thinks
i dont make up lies to mess with ppl

really i have spoken positively of kishi too
like i like tobirama nad kakashi and have praised em even here
but they dont do anything now and theres nothing but negativity for me
Oh well. Most of the times it's reports which bring me here so I maybe wrong.

And lol. So you are angry that your favourites don't have much of a screen time now? -__- We have other sections too to move one when you are done with one but whatever... I'm not Naruto so I am not going to to try TNJ for forever. Never had that much patience. :p
 

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Oh well. Most of the times it's reports which bring me here so I maybe wrong.

And lol. So you are angry that your favourites don't have much of a screen time now? -__- We have other sections too to move one when you are done with one but whatever... I'm not Naruto so I am not going to to try TNJ for forever. Never had that much patience. :p
they report everything! they usually insult me and i insult even harder in return and then they report and get me banned

i am satisfied with tobiramas conclusion but not with kakashis!
he didnt do nothing in the movie. could

the only other section i checked out was the general one
idk i'll try and lurk around and see if i like any other place
 

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Thank you!

But it saying that switching over love to Naruto would make her a terrible women not that leaving Sasuke.

And did he say it was before HInata's confession or after? Even her fake confession in an attempt to make Naruto let go of the promise to her gets her flamed even now. Do you think all the many of the fandom wouldn't be bashing on her calling her "terrible woman" if Sakura seriously went for Naruto after the confession?
I would, and in fact do regardless.
 

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but isnt that the same thing? and kishi assumes theres no one for sakura to switch over too other then naruto
shes not allowed to let go of sasuke even after he almost killed her! why is that and why would she be a terrible woman if she left a man who tried to kill her?

and the hypocrisy
nardo left sakura despite her being his first love for hinata and yet he isnt a terrible man for doing that

i would admit that would be a bad thing to do after lying to nardo like that but its more about sakura being a terrible woman for leaving sasuke
That's your personal interpretation because of your own bias and predisposition about how it should go.

I'm not even sure if I wanted something particular from Sakura. As a character she disappoints me because I think her dialogues could have been better written and more powerfully even if no part of the story or her abilities were changed. Of course if Kishi did that too, it would be that much better. But once the writer says he cannot write a certain type of character that well( in case of Kishi- females) and didn't know what to do with her it's more or less a dead horse. One can only hope that he learned from his first experience and if he writes them again he does better.

How good or bad a writer is should be decided on the whole picture not a particular character only. Pick any series and you are going to find certain quirks or weaknesses of writers. Some dodge the bullet and avoid writing those aspects in a way to get noticed in the first place when they get more experienced.

Good females in manga are hard to find even in shojo. There are some of course but yeah. The whole genre can use some improvement when it comes to female characters. Females are there but right behind. They are not allowed to outshine male characters not in more than one or two arcs. Then they gradually turn in secretory roles or supportive GF, mother etc.

Sakura gets highlighted more because the manga itself gets highlighted more and attracts equal number of trolls and haters which don't like Naruto\s popularity itself at times. There are so many people who keep saying they don't like Naruto or "always hated" the series for taking away the spot light from their fandoms and yet hang in here. So they pick one of the weakest link, that's Kishi not being able to write good females and make it look worse.
 
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That's your personal interpretation because of your own bias and predisposition about how it should go.

I'm not even sure if I wanted something particular from Sakura. As a character she disappoints me because I think her dialogues could have been better written and more powerfully even if no part of the story or her abilities were changed. Of course if Kishi did that too, it would be that much better. But once the writer says he cannot write a certain type of character that well( in case of Kishi- females) and didn't know what to do with her it's more or less a dead horse. One can only hope that he learned from his first experience and if he writes them again he does better.

How good or bad a writer is should be decided on the whole picture not a particular character only. Pick any series and you are going to find certain quirks or weaknesses of writers. Some dodge the bullet and avoid writing those aspects in a way to get noticed in the first place when they get more experienced.

Good females in manga are hard to find even in shojo. There are some of course but yeah. The whole genre can use some improvement when it comes to female characters. Females are there but right behind. They are not allowed to outshine male characters not in more than one or two arcs. Then they gradually turn in secretory roles or supportive GF, mother etc.

Sakura gets highlighted more because the manga itself gets highlighted more and attracts equal number of trolls and haters which don't like Naruto\s popularity itself at times. There are so many people who keep saying they don't like Naruto or "always hated" the series for taking away the spot light from their fandoms and yet hang in here. So they pick one of the weakest link and make it look worse.
that is what it reads like to me
"But after coming this far" he obviously means sakura coming far with sasuke
"having her switch over to naruto would make her a terrible woman"
that is how i am seeing this
"sakura has come to far with sasuke and should not leave him and switch over too naruto even if he tried to kill her or she'll be a terrible woman"



i have taken in both the bad and the good and i find the bad out weighs the good
hes weak in all types of relationships it seems
brothers, friends, and women all around
also this all this extreme forgiveness of murderes

i would never has suspected that naruto was sasukes best friend or even a friend if he didnt say it. not much implies he cares much about nardo just his clan. and sasuke thinking team 7 r his family? lmao would sasuke try to murder his family? i dont think so

i dont like nardo cause kishi didnt give my favs screen time
its more about the very bad relationships and asspulls and stuff

nardos popularity does not surprise me really, if twilight can be popular why cant nardo?
 

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I would, and in fact do regardless.
thanks for proving my point. ^_^

how much money u have doesnt reflect ur personality

donald turmp makes more money then anyone here on NB and u know what kind of fool he is
What makes you think you know enough of personality of either guy? As for Kishi- I think he is bad at giving interviews or marketing his stuff properly even. :p

But that doesn't make him good or bad. We simply do not know enough of him and would never. I don't even care as long as I get to read some awesome villains like Danzou, Oro or conflicted personalities like Itachi again. & of courseTobirama. He gets much less credit than he deserves- after all it was his idea to sit together and talk for peace and he called adults stupid for continuing war endlessly without looking for a solution. Naruto and Sasuke were quite cliche so I don't care about them much. I still enjoyed the series for at least 7 years.
 

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how much money u have doesnt reflect ur personality

donald turmp makes more money then anyone here on NB and u know what kind of fool he is
I said that because your here coming up with excuses on how the creator of this manga is "autistic" and had such a terrible past all due to your dislike on how the manga or a certain character panned out. You stated everything in your first post off of bias mentality in regards to this manga..
 

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thanks for proving my point. ^_^



What makes you think you know enough of personality of either guy? As for Kishi- I think he is bad at giving interviews or marketing his stuff properly even. :p

But that doesn't make him good or bad. We simply do not know enough of him and would never. I don't even care as long as I get to read some awesome villains like Danzou, Oro or conflicted personalities like Itachi again. & of courseTobirama. He gets much less credit than he deserves- after all it was his idea to sit together and talk for peace and he called adults stupid for continuing war endlessly without looking for a solution. Naruto and Sasuke were quite cliche so I don't care about them much. I still enjoyed the series for at least 7 years.
even if donald trump isnt stupid he is still a jerk
jus look at some of the stuff he says and does

i think hes bad at interviews too which, this and some of the stuff in his manga makes me speculate he has autism or something

he ruined both danzo and oro!

and somehow oro is treated as an ally... after kidnapping children and experimenting them!
i think bringin him back was a really bad idea
 

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I said that because your here coming up with excuses on how the creator of this manga is "autistic" and had such a terrible past all due to your dislike on how the manga or a certain character panned out. You stated everything in your first post off of bias mentality in regards to this manga..
those arent excuses
do u know what an analysis is? i merely analysed kishis stuff and that what i got from doing that
 

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those arent excuses
do u know what an analysis is? i merely analysed kishis stuff and that what i got from doing that
So you analyzed Kishi's youth all from a manga he wrote.
Call it what you want, it's excuses cited from bias towards the manga. You do not know his life or proper details of his youth to safely think he was autistic and troubled socially so this "analysis" is immature
 
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