[VS] Hiashi Hyūga vs MS Sasuke

[KameSennin]

Hiashi Hyūga









































win ( )

 

[neosmith500]

If Wall Palm can really destroy Susanoo which I sorta doubt, then I guess Sasuke would lose high diff

Danzo was able to strip off a good portion of susano with a vacuum blast which failed to even slightly lift susano while combined with baku's suction from the opposite end.

Wall palm is comprised of jyuken chakra which is specifically shown/stated to destroy chakra constructs and sends this chakra crashin into the construct with a shockwave blast strong enough to send susano sky rocketing , If susano is not completely destroyed by the blast, its gets critically damaged an fully destroyed by crashin into the surrounding area, not to mention byakugan will pinpoint the weaker areas.

Sasuke's best option is to Ama the surrounding area, summon his hawk an fly way out of reach while he preps kirin.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I was on the fence about this one for a while. Hiashi has some pretty incredible feats, and the fact that the Uchiha fans and Hyuga haters were in denial and essentially saying "Hiashi looses because I said so," didn't help. However, after seeing Hazaki and Kidgamer's posts, I think Sasuke wins. However, they're pretty close.

 

[King Of Pop]

5 pages and not one counter to kirin, that jutsu is always slept on. sasuke uses some enton on the battlefield goes on his hawk activates krin and uses it to obliterate hiashi. sasuke wins handily. and lol at the clown asserting hiashi beating Ems sasuke, talk about overating a character.

 

[heyguys]

sasuke because he has more feats

 

[Unorthodox]

still waiting for apex to try an counter my arguments

 

[TRE MERCER]

Grasping at straws because you can never accept a concession. Stubborn as usual I see.

You can't be serious when you tell me Hiashi cannot exert chakra from his body when part 1 Neji did it was utmost ease.. And again, thin layer of chakra was done by part 1, unless part 1 Neji>Hoashi in terms of skills, then there's 0 going for you there. That was Hiashi's rotation, :so there's nothing there. Hiashi can see 100's of kilometers away as shown when he saw a distant village explode. Saying his Byakugan cannot see chakra build up is not applicable.

DB states that air palm is a shockwave created. The user ONLY puts the chakra of a gentle fist on his hand, and throws a quick hand
thrust. The resulting shockwave is thus based on the hand speed, not the amount of chakra. Db4 clearly says it's a shockwave with two people, but given Hiashi's skill, he can do it alone with both hands;


Multiple rotations being two, meaning half the size of the Juubi hand and one rotation deflects it. Unless arrow>half of the hand of the Juubi, the arrow is getting its trajectory changed, or simply blocked.

And Lol, Kakashi did not know of the arrow, and hr was already on the floor. Hiashi will be standing ready, and the second the arrow begins to go backwards in order to be prepped for release, Hiashi spins. So that isn't working either. What? Since when is DB's attribution unascertainable? If it says the main house leader can do a specific technique, then he clearly can. Didn't know you were here didproving Kishi's specific statements lmao. So yes, I win because your logic is absolutely flawed.

Why are you still replying???? Honestly? Im done i refuse to debate with someone that uses DB logic to back up their claims...

 

[Apêx1]

Apex I'm pretty sure he can use Amaterasu while in Susanoo. He did it against Danzo.

No, his Susano immediately deactivated [

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Why are you still replying???? Honestly? Im done i refuse to debate with someone that uses DB logic to back up their claims...

Yet you send me a VM telling me you had put up a counter for me. How ironic. Not to mention denying the entirety of my argument by refusing the smallest part of my argument shows your idiotic nature. You truly are approaching MadaraRules after all.

 

[Haizaki]

No, his Susano immediately deactivated [

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Bear in mind that he had a form of Susanoo out when he used it

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and if Madara could cast a Genjutsu while in Susanoo

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, I don't see why Amaterasu can't be used.

Yet you send me a VM telling me you had put up a counter for me. How ironic. Not to mention denying the entirety of my argument by refusing the smallest part of my argument shows your idiotic nature. You truly are approaching MadaraRules after all.

Lmaooooooo hahaha.

 

[TRE MERCER]

No, his Susano immediately deactivated [

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Yet you send me a VM telling me you had put up a counter for me. How ironic. Not to mention denying the entirety of my argument by refusing the smallest part of my argument shows your idiotic nature. You truly are approaching MadaraRules after all.

That was before all of that DB bs you starting talking about... Your argument is moot...

1- Your scans are all things Neji has shown not Hiashi...

2- Claiming he can do it because young Neji can is invalid as well seeing as 13yr old Itachi could use Amaterasu and Madara couldn't...

3- Rotation got bested by wood spikes Susanoo arrows does the same but kills the man...

Please explain how am i becoming Madara rules i can see why people say that when it comes to Obito but with Sasuke it makes no sense what so ever...

 

[Apêx1]

Bear in mind that he had a form of Susanoo out when he used it

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and if Madara could cast a Genjutsu while in Susanoo

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, I don't see why Amaterasu can't be used.




Lmaooooooo hahaha.

In Ribcage, Sasuke cannot shoot arrows in Ribcage. But even if I were to just say he can do Ama in v3 Susano, that would change nothing as I have already told you his counter to it. Though the Madara feat isn't applicable because EMS makes any strain negligible, MS Sasuke suffered massive strain from both Susano and Ama.

That was before all of that DB bs you starting talking about... Your argument is moot...

1- Your scans are all things Neji has shown not Hiashi...

2- Claiming he can do it because young Neji can is invalid as well seeing as 13yr old Itachi could use Amaterasu and Madara couldn't...

3- Rotation got bested by wood spikes Susanoo arrows does the same but kills the man...

Please explain how am i becoming Madara rules i can see why people say that when it comes to Obito but with Sasuke it makes no sense what so ever...

You told me you had made the counter at 12-12-2014 08:53 AM yet you made your first counter 1 minute before that VM and your second reply on the 13th. Clearly an idiot.

1. Part 1 Neji feats. Those are all applicable to Hiashi, not to mention if Neji can do an air palm with 1 hand, and Hiashi does one multiple times greater, one can see Hiashi is superior. Hiashi's status makes him massively superior. Hiashi's rotation maks him superior. I'm guessing Hiashi can't use base Gentle fist because he didn't show it? Lmao.

2. Amateratsu is an eye to eye exclusive technique. It has nothing to do with skill, so that analogy is completely flawed.

3. Unless Sasuke has 1000's of arrows, he loses. Once again, your idiocy is glaring.

Because your retard levels are through the roof at this point.

 

[Stxluciferr]

Sasukes superior speed and versatile arsenal allows him to take this, while feeling comfy

As long as he keeps this in the mid range Hiashi has no way to win. Katons as diversions give Sasuke the ability to take advantage of the byakugans blind spot and slow roast with chidori senbon. They may not be enough to put Hiashi down by themselves but they while working in tandem with katon screens make it easy for Sasuke to set up a susanoo arrow; which by themselves would already give Hiashi a difficult time, as Hiashi attempts to evade, rotate, or destroy the senbon he leaves himself little time to counter the arrow. Pretty simple actually

Not to mention Sasuke at any point can go aerial and prep his trump card. Hiashi on the other hand can only win if he can force cqc and stop Sasuke from getting aerial. He can't do either

 

[KCMNaruto]

Sasukes superior speed and versatile arsenal allows him to take this, while feeling comfy

As long as he keeps this in the mid range Hiashi has no way to win. Katons as diversions give Sasuke the ability to take advantage of the byakugans blind spot and slow roast with chidori senbon. They may not be enough to put Hiashi down by themselves but they while working in tandem with katon screens make it easy for Sasuke to set up a susanoo arrow; which by themselves would already give Hiashi a difficult time, as Hiashi attempts to evade, rotate, or destroy the senbon he leaves himself little time to counter the arrow. Pretty simple actually

Not to mention Sasuke at any point can go aerial and prep his trump card. Hiashi on the other hand can only win if he can force cqc and stop Sasuke from getting aerial. He can't do either

Neither fire release or Chidori varriants would be effective as normal sized air palm as used by Neji against Kisame is more then enough. The only problem would be Amaterasu, Susanoo arrows for which Hiashi has counters.

However the really pain in ass would be Sasuke keeping distance on Hawk and using Kirin for which Hiashi has not defence, but unless Sasuke shroud Hawk with Susanoo then one air palm wall is enough to make hawk poof in smoke.

Susanoo would also feel the shockwave power and would be badly cracked.

 

[Haizaki]

In Ribcage, Sasuke cannot shoot arrows in Ribcage. But even if I were to just say he can do Ama in v3 Susano, that would change nothing as I have already told you his counter to it. Though the Madara feat isn't applicable because EMS makes any strain negligible, MS Sasuke suffered massive strain from both Susano and Ama.

It's not about him being able to shoot an arrow while in his Ribcage, it's his ability to use Amaterasu while in a form of Susanoo further showing why a fresh Sasuke should be able to do so even though he suffers from it. Notice how Susanoo deactivated after he had already used it in that scan.

Either way, it's just Hiashi's ability to breach Susanoo that would give him the victory here.

 

[Stxluciferr]

Neither fire release or Chidori varriants would be effective as normal sized air palm as used by Neji against Kisame is more then enough. The only problem would be Amaterasu, Susanoo arrows for which Hiashi has counters.

However the really pain in ass would be Sasuke keeping distance on Hawk and using Kirin for which Hiashi has not defence, but unless Sasuke shroud Hawk with Susanoo then one air palm wall is enough to make hawk poof in smoke.

Susanoo would also feel the shockwave power and would be badly cracked.

Neither the chidori variants or the katons are intended to deal significant damage to Hiashi. They serve the purpose of creating an opening for the arrow <though if need be Amaterasu could also be used>. Yes, Hiashi has counters for the arrow, but the speed of it would already give Hiashi some struggle as post pain arc Kakashi could not physically react to it. It's unlikely Hiashi would have the chance to excersise those counters <with Sasuke using the aboves to set up an opening> when all of them require Hiashi to make a pysical reaction.

Hiashi may be able to blast the bird out the sky but it's unlikely for a couple of reasons:

The bird isn't playing any offensive roll and it can focuse entirely on whatever Hiashi throws at it (kunia, explosive tags, ect); so the bird simply evades it. If he uses air vacuum wall and as you said Sasuke houses the bird in Susanoo then Susanoo may take some damage but the bird will be fine. It's should also seriously be called into question if he would have the ability to snipe something airborne from the ground if it's not coming at him. On top of that while attempting to make a physical attack on the bird he leaves himself open to Amaterasu, he may be able to deal with it, but not while simultaneously going after the bird. And nothing Hiashi has in his arsenal is quicker to the draw than Amaterasu

More importantly though if Sasuke keeps his distance and preps Kirin while on the ground then only summons the bird as a means to get above the blast there is nothing Hiashi can do

 

[Apêx1]

It's not about him being able to shoot an arrow while in his Ribcage, it's his ability to use Amaterasu while in a form of Susanoo further showing why a fresh Sasuke should be able to do so even though he suffers from it. Notice how Susanoo deactivated after he had already used it in that scan.

Either way, it's just Hiashi's ability to breach Susanoo that would give him the victory here.

Doesn't matter, I already told you how Hiashi counters it; and easily at that.

Okay.

 

[Haizaki]

Doesn't matter, I already told you how Hiashi counters it; and easily at that.

Okay.

How does he counter it? How does he counter Amataerasu followed with an arrow? If you gave a counter, I'm pretty sure I won't be stressing on it.

 

[Draegod]

How does he counter it? How does he counter Amataerasu followed with an arrow? If you gave a counter, I'm pretty sure I won't be stressing on it.

He can use both but will be drained ASAP! The AMA arrow argument is easily dealt with, if you want my opinion bro I can shed some light.

 

[Draegod]

How does he counter it? How does he counter Amataerasu followed with an arrow? If you gave a counter, I'm pretty sure I won't be stressing on it.

He can use both but will be drained ASAP! The AMA arrow argument is easily dealt with, if you want my opinion bro I can shed some light.

 

[Haizaki]

He can use both but will be drained ASAP! The AMA arrow argument is easily dealt with, if you want my opinion bro I can shed some light.

Just found a decent counter to that combo haha. The only problem is how Hiashi gets past Susanoo