DRSM Madara vs DMS Kakashi

[BenjerminGaye]

That's the whole point of DMS to use both eyes at the same time... holdup let me scan you up...

Kcm is right. Using both eyes doubles speed making konan's statement false.

 

[Draphsin]

Madara needs to be a JJ in order to beat this form of kakashi.

 

[Bronze]

If limbo can't touch kakashi due to intangibility. .. that means he's bypassing them. It's pretty simple.

Which goes back to what I originally said: 5 minutes pass, and no more intangibility.

Kakashi's isn't aiming to paralyze his movements. Not to mention those techniques were needed 4 JJ Madara. (SM madara got holes put in him by sand alone) so it's irrelevant here.

No proof that been Jinchuuriki had affected Limbo, since Limbo has no durability. Without Rikudou Chakra, they don't receive damage whatsoever; it's part of its functioning. Thus your argument is irrelevant.

Kamui raikiri ripped thru kaguya.

And...?

Kaguya> JJ Madara> jj obito> obito(tanked executioners blade 0 diff where as Madara got holes put in him from a standard katana)>sm madara durability.

The same Kaguya had her horn broken by Base Sakura, and Madara's horn was broken by 8th Gate Gai, then I beg to differ. Obito's hand > JJ Madara. Black Zetsu's hand > JJ Madara. Same sword > JJ Madara. So once again, your argument is irrelevant. Limbo > Kamui-Raikiri.

So raikiri rips him a new one.

With Limbo making it a child-play, sadly.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Which goes back to what I originally said: 5 minutes pass, and no more intangibility.

Kamui raikiri isn't taking 5 minutes. In mere seconds madara's head will be rolling.

No proof that been Jinchuuriki had affected Limbo, since Limbo has no durability. Without Rikudou Chakra, they don't receive damage whatsoever; it's part of its functioning. Thus your argument is irrelevant.

This is false on so many levels.

First of all. Limbo creates exact copies of the original. Thus it's durability is equal to that of the original.

Secondly, it was never stated that only rikudo chakra effects limbo. It says you need rikudo senjustu to sense it or rinnegan to see it.

Thirdly kakashi had rikudo chakra so even if he can't see it if they try to block there getting ripped through(not that rikudo chakra is even necessary)

Lastly they've already been shown taking damage from naruto, and being paralyzed by sasuke.

Seriously stop making bs up.

And...?

nothing is stopping it from ripping through madara.

The same Kaguya had her horn broken by Base Sakura, and Madara's horn was broken by 8th Gate Gai,

So Sakura> 8 gate guy in strength.

Obito's hand > JJ Madara.

true and we all know kakashi's hand> obito's hand.

Black Zetsu's hand > JJ Madara.

another truth. Kakashi hand> bz hand.

Same sword > JJ Madara. So once again, your argument is irrelevant

Actually madara ran into the sword itself.

Limbo > Kamui-Raikiri

makes claim without proving it. Cute.

With Limbo making it a child-play, sadly.

lol that dosen't even make sense

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kamui Raikiri (Authorithy of Gods Lightning Cutter)
Ninjutsu, Kekkei-genkai
First Appearance: Volume 71, pag. 182

An amped version of the original ninjutsu of Kakashi. It's Raikiri bearing Kamui power. A godspeed thrust is executed together with the phasing effect. Then it flies/warps (teleports) the part of the enemy's body it pierces into the other dimension.


Get wrecked

 

[TRE MERCER]

Kcm is right. Using both eyes doubles speed making konan's statement false.

No it doesn't... Warping someone with both eyes would still be faster than warping yourself with both eyes since warping someone with 1 eye is faster than warping yourself with one eye...

 

[BenjerminGaye]

No it doesn't... Warping someone with both eyes would still be faster than warping yourself with both eyes since warping someone with 1 eye is faster than warping yourself with one eye...

Unless he's in contact with that person. No.
since long range wouldn't double it's speed.

 

[Bronze]

Kamui raikiri isn't taking 5 minutes. In mere seconds madara's head will be rolling.

What does Kamui-Raikiri and Kakashi being intangible have any relations to countering Limbo? If he becomes intangible (which he won't as he has no reason to when not knowing of Limbo is there), he gets one-shotted instantly. If the former, then it goes to what I said.

First of all. Limbo creates exact copies of the original. Thus it's durability is equal to that of the original.

I don't think you know what durability means. Durability has nothing to do with Limbo. The Real Madara can be hurt by physical and attacks, which lack Six Paths Chakra as witnessed by Bijuu and Gaara. Limbo does not get hurt unless the Six Paths Chakra is used, as established by Sasuke. Despite being copy of the original, Limbo clones function differently.

Secondly, it was never stated that only rikudo chakra effects limbo. It says you need rikudo senjustu to sense it or rinnegan to see it.

What in the actual hell?

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What does effecting Limbo have anything to do with detecting its presence? Effecting and detecting are two different concept. And yes, Sasuke said it. [

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Thirdly kakashi had rikudo chakra so even if he can't see it if they try to block there getting ripped through(not that rikudo chakra is even necessary)

Of course he did, but his Kamui-Raikiri won't be enough when it took the combined attack of Naruto and Sasuke to just stop one Limbo. What's interesting is, Kakashi has no way to stop Limbo. Because he has no Sealing Jutsu to put them for good. Limbo can heal like Madara can, and just stay there to every damage and still heal.

Lastly they've already been shown taking damage from naruto, and being paralyzed by sasuke.

We know this...

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nothing is stopping it from ripping through madara.

Limbo is there to stop it.

So Sakura> 8 gate guy in strength.

Any more jokes you want us to hear?

true and we all know kakashi's hand> obito's hand.

Based on nothing.

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Actually madara ran into the sword itself.

And his durability didn't save him.

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makes claim without proving it. Cute.

I did a few minutes ago.

lol that dosen't even make sense

If you're not deluding yourself, maybe you'll see the truth.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Unless he's in contact with that person. No.
since long range wouldn't double it's speed.

Yes i agree Obito doesn't have 2 long range versions so he can't increase that speed i agree...

 

[V h o]

Kakashi wins. Thought this was juudara at first

 

[ARGUS]

None of these are strong enough to stop the Shurikens, which were able to go

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of Kaguya's chakra hands.

They doont have to be strong enough,
when YM, Mokuton or a Katon hits the shuriken, the shuriken then warp meaning that they dissappear, thus they are countered

Debatable, and even if it will work, it will stop only one of the Shurikens.

Madara managed to throw over 11 PS-swords coating the TBB, in the midst of Chojo Kobetsu attacking him,
now that he doesnt have to wait for the TBB, he can throw them even faster,

Featless ST won't work. Nagato had years to master the Rinnengan. Madara was too old to develop his Rinnengan's abilities. Not to mention, that there were multiple occasions where it would be usefull for Madara to use ST, while fighting the Gokage.

Its madaras own eyes, and he can access their full power, unlike nagato,
claiming that madara cant use ST, despite having the eyes and the ability to use the rinnegan makes no sense,

Kakashi shit stomps him. Rikudo Chakra enhanced PS>Normal PS. Madara got no boost for his Complete Susanoo so he will get no boost for his Perfect Susanoo either. PS blocks Limbo, SS gets ripped apart, and Madara gets sniped by Kamui or killed by PS.

Im going to need proof for the bold,
and why wont madara get a rikudo boost for his PS,

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[BenjerminGaye]

What does Kamui-Raikiri and Kakashi being intangible have any relations to countering Limbo?

If he's intangible limbo can't touch him. That's a counter. If limbo can't touch him limbo can't stop him.

If he becomes intangible (which he won't as he has no reason to when not knowing of Limbo is there), he gets one-shotted instantly.

one shotted by what? Nothing can touch him

If the former, then it goes to what I said.

There is no former... u only listed a latter. U haven't explained how Madara even touches the man.

I don't think you know what durability means. Durability has nothing to do with Limbo.

yet we see limbo get damaged. Meaning they have a certain level of durability.

The Real Madara can be hurt by physical and attacks, which lack Six Paths Chakra as witnessed by Bijuu and Gaara.

and limbo being copies of madara's share madara's abilities. Meaning it gets effected by all attacks Madara would get affected by.

Limbo does not get hurt unless the Six Paths Chakra is used, as established by Sasuke.

Sasuke never established that. Read the damn scan correctly.
"Looks like even attacks with So6p chakra works on him."

Nowhere does it say normal attacks wouldn't work.

Despite being copy of the original, Limbo clones function differently.

No they function the same as said by db. Stop making crap up.

"Not only user of this jutsu get a duplicate of himself with the same capacity, but also this duplicate will be invisible."

the only benefits limbo gives is invisibility. They have to return to the original after a set time Making them no better that water clones.

What in the actual hell?

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What does effecting Limbo have anything to do with detecting its presence?

He dosen't have to detect it to attack madara.

Effecting and detecting are two different concept. And yes, Sasuke said it. [

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stop twisting sasuke's words. I already debunked this.

Of course he did, but his Kamui-Raikiri won't be enough when it took the combined attack of Naruto and Sasuke to just stop one Limbo.

it took naruto and sasuke to stop a jj madara's limbo. Since jj madara is stronger than DRSM madara. That dosen't apply here since sand stopped sm madara. Not to mention whatever getsunade stabbed gets sent to kamuiland. Thus stopping limbo from returning.

What's interesting is, Kakashi has no way to stop Limbo Because he has no Sealing Jutsu to put them for good. Limbo can heal like Madara can,

sm madara healing without absorbing someone's chakra first? Scans please? Not to mention it's already been addressed.

and just stay there to every damage and still heal.

It wont be doing jack squat in kamui land.

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knows it can be damaged by noodles and sauce. Denies it being damaged by kakashi.

Limbo is there to stop it.

Kakashi phases through it or stabs it and sends it to kamuiland as per jutsu description. It's up to him. BUT seriously how does limbo stop what it can't touch?

Any more jokes you want us to hear?

So you can't disprove it.

Based on nothing.

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Based on kakashi's running his fist through a much more durable opponent. But hey.

And his durability didn't save him.

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it's a self inflicted wound. Why would it.

I did a few minutes ago.

No you didn't. If you did we wouldn't be here.

If you're not deluding yourself, maybe you'll see the truth.

I'm not though. .

I'll cut you a deal.you dont have to explain or reply to any of the above.
If you acknowledge the fact that kakashi can attack while remaining intangible (kamui raikiri) then how does limbo stop him from attacking?
If you explain to me how it does this dispite not being able to touch kakashi I'll concede.

 

[Bronze]

I'll reply later on.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I'll reply later on.

The only thing you need to reply to is the bottom.

 

[EKSITE]

Madara takes this mid diff Izanagi last long enough until DMS deactivate

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Madara takes this mid diff Izanagi last long enough until DMS deactivate

Do you even know long his izanagi lasts? It could be 1 min like danzo.

 

[EKSITE]

Do you even know long his izanagi lasts? It could be 1 min like danzo.

With EMS Madara stayed dead for days , Sage chakra enhanced Rinnengan he doin 25 to life lol

 

[Conspirator.]

Im going to need proof for the bold,
and why wont madara get a rikudo boost for his PS,

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Madara's complete Susanoo got bitchslapped by the bijuu tails. Meanwhile, when Sasuke got the kyuubi cloak(no where near as much of a boost as Hagaromo's chakra) his complete Susanoo grew to a similar size to Naruto's bijuu avatar, and had rougly the same durability as the Kyuubi cloaks body.(not the tails). Madara's complete Susanoo enhanced by rikudo chakra should have a much higher durability than what was showcased. Hence, if there was a boost, it was negligible.

OT: Kakashi shitstomps. Rikudo PS, kamui shurikens, kamui hax all take a dump on Madara's arsenal.

 

[KidGamer65]

Im going to need proof for the bold,
and why wont madara get a rikudo boost for his PS,

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SkyFall said it all. Madara's Complete Susanoo was getting manhandled, yet a Kyuubi Chakra Boost put Sasuke's Complete Susanoo in a place where it could physically compete with the Kurama Avatar.

So either Madara got no boost like Kakashi, Naruto and Sasuke did, or Kyuubi Chakra Boost>>>>Rikudo Boost. I'm sure we all know which one is true.

So Kakashi stomps.

 

[TRE MERCER]

SkyFall said it all. Madara's Complete Susanoo was getting manhandled, yet a Kyuubi Chakra Boost put Sasuke's Complete Susanoo in a place where it could physically compete with the Kurama Avatar.

So either Madara got no boost like Kakashi, Naruto and Sasuke did, or Kyuubi Chakra Boost>>>>Rikudo Boost. I'm sure we all know which one is true.

So Kakashi stomps.

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