Time skip Sasuke is a lot stronger than Time skip Naruto ?

[Garfield01]

Truth to be said, Naruto can't counter Chibaku Tensei since he's the constant gravitational attraction of all the boulders underneath him.Then he has his chakra drained, and once that is done, Indra arrow negs.

Logic as easy as abc. :|​

 

[vaishakh01]

What part of he is the core are you not understanding here?

Even if he himself is made the core , that doesnt prevent him from using his reverse summon(he can even use Ashura avatar as a shield). CB has a limited range wrt to user so if he uses reverse summon , he negates CB.

 

[Transcendence]

Nope.​

What part of he is the core are you not understanding here?​

Still waiting for that explanation of how he's breaking the core of CT to stop it when the core is Naruto. Since it's so obvious you should have no trouble explaining.​

I addressed it all. That didn't make up half of what I said at all. I don't need to take it into account. As I keep saying, naruto can have as much chakra as he wants. It really isn't making any difference unless it's actualy his and not being transmitted through bijuu. I'd have to agree, you're arguments are poor or nonexistent, which is why you failed to address either scenarios properly. You actually completely ignored the second. He can overpower the force of CT pushing down on him? Lmafo, please prove to me how he can even move in such a state. Then go ahead and tell me about how Naruto's scream is so powerful he'll sudden;y stop being a core of pretty much gravity.​

When did I say he was breaking the core?

I said that Naruto would overpower the force of gravity around him via the Tailed Beast roar and for reference I said:

In his Bijuu mode with only Yang Kurama, he pushed back 5 Bijuu's fully transformed with a single roar. This is a Full Kurama Naruto with a larger Avatar and Rikudou Sage Mode. You actually believe a CT that could barely contain half Kurama at first will be able to contain someone who had the ability prior to gaining tiers above himself in power, of pushing back Bijuu with just a roar? You're deluded. It's in the exact same vein as when 6T Kyuubi Naruto overpowered Pein's Shinra Tensei with his chakra roar, but in this case, it's a far larger scale and Naruto is so much more powerful it's unfathomable. You have yet to address that at all, which is why I've lost pretty much all interest in debating this.

And just to articulate this to make it a little easier to understand, I'll use the Pein occurrence as a point of reference. Shinra Tensei is an outward force of gravity. It was overpowered by a greater outward force in 6T Kyuubi Naruto's roar.

In this case, Naruto is the "core" and gravity around him is drawing the ground towards him in an attempt to make him encased in Chibaku Tensei. It's literally the opposite, as instead of being an outward force to overpower, it's inward and drawn to Naruto. The same logic applies. Naruto overpowers the gravity around him with the chakra roar and dissipates the gravity as the manga already has proven that a greater force than the gravity being used from Deva can mitigate said attack.

 

[Trúth]

are you braindead or what?

Oh no, my brain is fully functioning. But please, go on trying to insult me. I'm sure it's a lot easier than actually providing any evidence that naruto can stop CT when he's the core. ​

 

[vaishakh01]

Truth to be said, Naruto can't counter Chibaku Tensei since he's the constant gravitational attraction of all the boulders underneath him.Then he has his chakra drained, and once that is done, Indra arrow negs.

Logic as easy as abc.​

He gets out out it via reverse summon. Ct has a limited range , if Naruto gets out of its range , ct is over .

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

Truth to be said, Naruto can't counter Chibaku Tensei since he's the constant gravitational attraction of all the boulders underneath him.Then he has his chakra drained, and once that is done, Indra arrow negs.

Logic as easy as abc. :|​

TSB negs indra's arrows, Ct is easy to break for RSM naruto.

 

[Xlad]

Ignorant? K.

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1) Limbo should be able to use the original's techs, since it's simply a kage bunshin created on another paralleling dimension, and also the fact that the user can switch with it. Unless it was stated in clear words that limbo couldn't use much more than taijutsu, it'd be stupid to assume it can't do use the orig's techs. In madara's case he was pretty much nerfed to limbo, if you haven't notice. Since you really don't need both eyes, or any eyes at all to use EMS and Rinnegan. Do you think if madara was going ham mode with his abilities naruto and sasuke would have lived to breed? Anyways, that's a different matter.

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- There is also no evidence that Limbo are capable of more than just Taijutsu or being nerfed. Madara is far stronger than Juubito, has both Rinnegans, and extremely massive chakra reserves. Yet he used only four Limbos and they didn't pull out anything else but CC. [

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So they aren't going to fight for long. Lol

2) Madara didn't state such thing. He couldn't use preta because as soon as he absorbed it he'd be paralysed by the lightning that came along with the sand and water dragon, hence he'd be sealed without a problem.

Huh? Preta Path cause the user's

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You can't cast jutsus while having your chakra reversed at the same time.

3) As you can see from the scan below, Naruto's chakra avatar isn't completely invincible, since part of its face got demolished

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But here it regenerates due to the load of chakra received from Kurama.

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Therefore meaning its vulnerable to attacks like indra's arrow. Or even Bansho Ten'in and PS sword.

Then they merge and counter Indra's arrow exactly like how it happened in canon.

4) You also forget that Sasuke can use Bansho Teni'in and significantly increase the speed of Naruto's TBB, then use Ame to switch places with naruto, turning his own weapon against him. Naruto will not be able to counter that.

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. RSM Naruto is light years ahead of BM Naruto. So that is definitely not happening.

5) You should also take notice that Naruto's reaction as good as you hype it to be, since he just about dodge this chidori + Ame combination, and was slightly affected.

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He evaded it. He was also distracted by Great Fireball and almost forgot about Sasuke's teleportation. That grunt was no different than when they both evaded Kaguya's attack. [

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Multiple uses would certainly disorientate Naruto.

There is a cooldown time used. Then there's also the fact that Naruto will be more aware. So he counters by extending his chakra arms

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block his Chidori.

6) Naruto's speed is still inferior to Ame's instantaneous speed, which goes to say that when it comes to speed Naruto will be on the defensive. His avatar may double in size, but so will Sasuke's, seeing as Madara's Rinne PS is bigger than his EMS PS.

No, it's no way inferior to S/T. Lol Especailly given the diversion used to use it and follow by another attack.

 

[TrollKing]

They were under gunjutsu otherwise they could've broken out of it easily

Then they would still get one shot even when they escape and hide inside naruto

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

Then they would still get one shot even when they escape and hide inside naruto

kurama escaped Ct (not even full kurama or complete kurama) from pain, it's easy for the other beasts aswell.

 

[Zlatán]

Sigh you could not get any worse, but you did.
Your argument was invalid and yet you tried to draw Sasuke to the extreme, yet I balanced it out with Naruto. Thus forth you came to acknowledge it and then tried to make someone else look bad, wow.

I really feel sorry for you >w >

He literally destroyed you with this

Let me tell you this again in basic English

Both Sasuke and Naruto ran out of chakra from their previous fights, Sasuke took this a advantage and absorbed the tailed beasts chakra to boost his supply while Naruto's is still low, however what Sasuke didn't realize was while he was fighting Naruto and Kurama's clone, below Kurama was absorbing all the valleys natural energy refilling his chakra, it took the entire valley nature energy to match Sasuke's at the end they became matched, that's why the final attack took both of them out

Stop being a whiny fanboy and read the manga without being a b*tch

He wasn't being biased here, yet you can't probably give him a normal response Lol

 

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- There is also no evidence that Limbo are capable of more than just Taijutsu. Madara is far stronger than Juubito, has both Rinnegans, and extremely massive chakra reserves. Yet he used only four Limbos and they didn't pull out anything else but CC. [

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So they aren't going to fight for long. Lol


Huh? Preta Path cause the user's

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You can't cast jutsus while having you chakra reversed at the same time.

Then they merge and counter Indra's arrow exactly like how it happened in canon.

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. RSM Naruto is light years ahead of BM Naruto. So that is definitely not happening.

He evaded it. He was also distracted by Great Fireball and almost forgot about Sasuke's teleportation. That grunt was no different than when they both evaded Kaguya's attack. [

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There is a cooldown time used. Then there's also the fact that Naruto will be more aware. So he counters by extending his chakra arms

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block his Chidori.

No, it's no way inferior to S/T. Lol Especailly given the diversion used to use it and follow by another attack.

These are all actually really good points. Especially the part about Limbo's being shadows and the Preta Path part.

 

[Holy God]

I'd just like to know what stops Sasuke from entering Naruto's mind, putting all the tailed beasts under genjutsu, and then putting Naruto under it?

 

[BLAZE]

like i said even BlastIt couldn't resist XD

 

[Garfield01]

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- There is also no evidence that Limbo are capable of more than just Taijutsu. Madara is far stronger than Juubito, has both Rinnegans, and extremely massive chakra reserves. Yet he used only four Limbos and they didn't pull out anything else but CC. [

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So they aren't going to fight for long. Lol


Huh? Preta Path cause the user's

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You can't cast jutsus while having you chakra reversed at the same time.

Then they merge and counter Indra's arrow exactly like how it happened in canon.

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. RSM Naruto is light years ahead of BM Naruto. So that is definitely not happening.

He evaded it. He was also distracted by Great Fireball and almost forgot about Sasuke's teleportation. That grunt was no different than when they both evaded Kaguya's attack. [

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There is a cooldown time used. Then there's also the fact that Naruto will be more aware. So he counters by extending his chakra arms

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block his Chidori.

No, it's no way inferior to S/T. Lol Especailly given the diversion used to use it and follow by another attack.

I concur. Thanks for calmly debating without indirectly insulting or bashing my fav, and also ty taking your time to reply. Now, if only some people were like that. Lel.

GGs anyway.​

 

[Trúth]

Even if he himself is made the core , that doesnt prevent him from using his reverse summon(he can even use Ashura avatar as a shield). CB has a limited range wrt to user so if he uses reverse summon , he negates CB.

Reverse summons, do you know how they work?

Obviously not. One of the toads would have to do it and they aren't in this matchup. It's a temporary solution anyway, as nothing stops it from happening again when Naruto returns. ​

When did I say he was breaking the core?

I said that Naruto would overpower the force of gravity around him via the Tailed Beast roar and for reference I said:

In his Bijuu mode with only Yang Kurama, he pushed back 5 Bijuu's fully transformed with a single roar. This is a Full Kurama Naruto with a larger Avatar and Rikudou Sage Mode. You actually believe a CT that could barely contain half Kurama at first will be able to contain someone who had the ability prior to gaining tiers above himself in power, of pushing back Bijuu with just a roar? You're deluded. It's in the exact same vein as when 6T Kyuubi Naruto overpowered Pein's Shinra Tensei with his chakra roar, but in this case, it's a far larger scale and Naruto is so much more powerful it's unfathomable. You have yet to address that at all, which is why I've lost pretty much all interest in debating this.

You do realize the CT is in fact emanating from him right? Not around him. HIM. Nothing even hints that CT is merely around the core. In which case his only option is to break himself.

Consider it addressed. Though to be frank, if you want to quit that's fine. I lost interest when I realized that you were simply just another "Sasuke fan" who thinks everyone that disagrees with his opinion in regards to a vs. match up with Sasuke is a wanker. That and of course, my last and most important point was ignored.​

 

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Reverse summons, do you know how they work?

Obviously not. One of the toads would have to do it and they aren't in this matchup ​

You do realize the CT is in fact emanating from him right? Not around him. HIM. Nothing even hints that CT is merely around the core. In which case his only option is to break himself.

Consider it addressed. Though to be frank, if you want to quit that's fine. I lost interest when I realized that you were simply just another "Sasuke fan" who thinks everyone that disagrees with his opinion in regards to a vs. match up with Sasuke is a wanker. That and of course, my last point was ignored.​

Do you want to address what part of the manga supported the fact that the person or Bijuu IS THE CORE? That's a fan made point. That would mean Sasuke literally alters the body of the person he's using it on, which makes no sense at all. CT treads on the use of gravity to draw things to it. You can even see the Bijuu's lifted up by the gravity and the rest of things drawn to it. And no, Sasuke is my favourite character, but I'm not biased and I don't call people wankers. When did I ever call you a wanker? You have still yet to address the point about the CT, you just keep spouting that the target is the core, yet this was never proven. And I edited my post to articulate it better to get my point across.

 

[TrollKing]

I'd just like to know what stops Sasuke from entering Naruto's mind, putting all the tailed beasts under genjutsu, and then putting Naruto under it?

Enter the mind?? Too slow, sasky could one shot them even easier since they are trapped inside naruto.

What stops him??? The same reason kiki giving naruto 6-7 powerups magically everytime naruto about to get denatured like egg's protein since kaguya appeared XD

 

[vaishakh01]

Reverse summons, do you know how they work?

Obviously not. One of the toads would have to do it and they aren't in this matchup. It's a temporary solution anyway, as nothing stops it from happening again when Naruto returns. ​

Why would they not be in this matchup ? Even if they arent , Naruto can also use TSB to cover himself and prevent himself from taking damage while he unravels CT(Only way he is becoming core is if Sasuke somehow gets his Chakra in. He just needs to get rid of it)

 

[vaishakh01]

Enter the mind?? Too slow, sasky could one shot them even easier since they are trapped inside naruto.

What stops him??? The same reason kiki giving naruto 6-7 powerups magically everytime naruto about to get denatured like egg's protein since kaguya appeared XD

You do realize , Genjutsu is weak against perfect jinchuurikies like Naruto and Bee.

 

[Trúth]

Do you want to address what part of the manga supported the fact that the person or Bijuu IS THE CORE? That's a fan made point. That would mean Sasuke literally alters the body of the person he's using it on, which makes no sense at all. CT treads on the use of gravity to draw things to it. You can even see the Bijuu's lifted up by the gravity and the rest of things drawn to it. And no, Sasuke is my favourite character, but I'm not biased and I don't call people wankers. When did I ever call you a wanker? You have still yet to address the point about the CT, you just keep spouting that the target is the core, yet this was never proven. And I edited my post to articulate it better to get my point across.

Fair enough point here actually. I'm not saying it can't be argued against, as it most certainly can but it's pointless because there isn't proof either way. CT could act the way you describe(around) or it could literally turn the person into a core as I said.

@Bold Weak argument. This is a manga about magic ninja's. It makes perfect sense to me and is not unbelievable in the slightest. What makes Naruto different from the air/space surrounding him that would make it illogical?

You implied I was in the beginning of your very first post. I read it, and it's speculation that hinges entirely upon how CT acts exactly. If it acts the way you think then yeah, I would agree.

Sasuke stills wins do to my last scenario​

Why would they not be in this matchup ? Even if they arent , Naruto can also use TSB to cover himself and prevent himself from taking damage while he unravels CT(Only way he is becoming core is if Sasuke somehow gets his Chakra in. He just needs to get rid of it)

A couple reasons.

> He doesn't have time to summon them before he becomes a core.
> He wouldn't summon them in the first place, Naruto's character would consider it too dangerous. Especially when he has bijju at his disposal.

@bold Speculation that isn't supported by the manga at all. He turned them into cores almost instantly and naruto didn't sense Sasuke's chakra acting upon them. You don't know how the tech is actually put into effect so this point is pretty invalid.​