[VS] Hiashi Hyūga vs MS Sasuke

[KCMNaruto]

Amateratsu- Countered with chakra release
Genjutsu- Non-factor in front of Hyuuga eyes
Speed- Perceived with ease, and massive hand speed easily stops him in his tracks. Rotation stops him as well.
Arrow- Deflected with Rotation.
Kenjutsu- Countered with Gentle Fist and Hyuuga bodily chakra exertions.
Susano-Countered with Vacuum Air Palm, Susano does in fact have Tenketsu which can be advantageously used by Hiashi to destroy the construct.
Enton variants- Leaves chakra around his entire hand and attacks, or uses Air palm or absorbed via Twin Lion Fist.

Again, I shall repeat, how does Sasuke ultimately end Hiashi?

Very good points, to actually add to it only MS Sasuke's certain matter that he is safe and having advantage against Hiashi would be using Final Susanoo along with Enton to it to keep Hiashi from close combat, but I doubt Sasuke would last even 5 minutes in it, also the longer he last the more worn down he would be and easire to beat as cells pain would be unbearable

 

[neosmith500]

Not to mention the MS eye infection Lol Hiashi negs this.

I'm guessing Sasuke has no way of ending this.

Not to my reasoning Lol He gets invaded and destroyed.

 

[Apêx1]

Very good points, to actually add to it only MS Sasuke's certain matter that he is safe and having advantage against Hiashi would be using Final Susanoo along with Enton to it to keep Hiashi from close combat, but I doubt Sasuke would last even 5 minutes in it, also the longer he last the more worn down he would be and easire to beat as cells pain would be unbearable

Indeed, MS Sasuke's v4 Susano tolerance is bound to be low. Not to mention Air Palms will keep sending Sasuke back until he can no longer bear the pain of the v4 Susano strain..

 

[KCMNaruto]

Indeed, MS Sasuke's v4 Susano tolerance is bound to be low. Not to mention Air Palms will keep sending Sasuke back until he can no longer bear the pain of the v4 Susano strain..

Actually the result would be same against any MS user with no ehacements like Senjuu DNA, boost from Tailed beast chakra(Kurama) or having spirtual weapons.

Could you agree that Itachi without Yata and Mirror could loose to Hiashi ?

 

[neosmith500]

Indeed, MS Sasuke's v4 Susano tolerance is bound to be low. Not to mention Air Palms will keep sending Sasuke back until he can no longer bear the pain of the v4 Susano strain..

Also whats stopping hiashi from beating EMS Sasuke ext high dif bar PS?

Hiashi only gets a total of 5 minuts or less of panel time yet the hyuuga leader show's how easily with enough panel he couldve solo'd a good portion of NV, His Twin lion Fist could potentially equal the scale of his other techniques an be propelled with a vacuum blast like a kind of "Hirdora" blast Lol OP material right there.

 

[Draegod]

The hyuga fans of the past have been arguing this over itachi and sasuke fans. They will never say a hyuga beats neither. Repeating what they already have been exposed to, If you were really here back in the day like you said you should remember. We just stopped trying now a days.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Also whats stopping hiashi from beating EMS Sasuke ext high dif bar PS?

Hiashi only gets a total of 5 minuts or less of panel time yet the hyuuga leader show's how easily with enough panel he couldve solo'd a good portion of NV, His Twin lion Fist could potentially equal the scale of his other techniques an be propelled with a vacuum blast like a kind of "Hirdora" blast Lol OP material right there.

Well EMS Sasuke can handle well use of MS abiltiies, which are enhanced or boosted by the way. Considering that Sasuke doesn't feel eye strain anymore and adding mobility to Susanoo even without PS EMS Sasuke would beat Hiashi.

maybe if Hiashi had more feats...,but with canon material EMS Sasuke beats him low-mid diff

The hyuga fans of the past have been arguing this over itachi and sasuke fans. They will never say a hyuga beats neither. Repeating what they already have been exposed to, If you were really here back in the day like you said you should remember. We just stopped trying now a days.

^^ I don't care and you shouldn't also. They finally left/ are gone and most of the members can finally debate something with logic and not bias, that what we are doing and enjoying.

The number of harcore fanboys in denial worshipping their favourite diminished a lot so their's opinion means no more importance anymore as there is no more these in denial to approve each other and bash opposition.

 

[Beans2]

Hebi Sasuke gets the job done

 

[Demonic.]

Can you elborate about it. It is not that I doubt it but I would like to know the base of your thinking way.

I mean Nothing else then Final Susanoo of MS Sasuke would stand against Full powered Air palms of Hiashi which could bust Susanoo, besides that while MS Sasuke would have immobile Susanoo as canon facts.

If we assume Hiashi is about as fast as MS Sasuke, then well Hiashi has chance as MS Sasuke got eye strain for too long using MS abilties which would mean the longer battle last in worse state Sasuke will be.



I agree with you all in all. Maybe just with Hiashi having chance also pull the win...

Well I was thinking the argument for Hiashi would be that Hiashi opens a gap in Susano and kills Sasuke.

Which wouldn't work because Sasuke's Susano was paralyzed from the Baku's suction:

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So Hiashi would have ended up like this:

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But I agree with Apex. Hiashi can use his Vacuum Palm to keep Sasuke's Susano at bay, he counters all of Sasuke's long range attacks with rotation, and wins by outlasting Sasuke.

Sasuke's only chance at winning is without Susano, engaging Hiashi with his Kenjutsu. Sasuke's speed and precognition is still above Hiashi.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Hebi Sasuke gets the job done

only because he has Oorchimaru absorbed in himself and is faster, along with use of curse seal 2

He actually has different fighting style and is a lot more battle smart then MS version that how he could beat Hiashi with cold blood, but it could go either way.

The hyuga fans of the past have been arguing this over itachi and sasuke fans. They will never say a hyuga beats neither. Repeating what they already have been exposed to, If you were really here back in the day like you said you should remember. We just stopped trying now a days.

Well I was thinking the argument for Hiashi would be that Hiashi opens a gap in Susano and kills Sasuke.

Which wouldn't work because Sasuke's Susano was paralyzed from the Baku's suction:

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So Hiashi would have ended up like this:

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But I agree with Apex. Hiashi can use his Vacuum Palm to keep Sasuke's Susano at bay, he counters all of Sasuke's long range attacks with rotation, and wins by outlasting Sasuke.

Sasuke's only chance at winning is without Susano, engaging Hiashi with his Kenjutsu. Sasuke's speed and precognition is still above Hiashi.

True, but Hiashi could also use rotation to force Sasuke back away and decided to not try kenjutsu...

Still v4 Susanoo would gives Sasuke clear win, unless he will get outlasted and due to eye strain make some mistake.

 

[Yami no Kagutsuchi]

Sasuke low diff

 

[TheEvilOne]

The Hiashi wank is getting ridiculous.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Sasuke low diff

EMS Sasuke yes, MS Sasuke no way

The Hiashi wank is getting ridiculous.

No it is just the hidden truth which too many fanboys here denied it back then and finally left so everyone can debate it properly and trying to use manga facts/feats to justify opinion, instead of X beats Y , my fav solos or gg

 

[neosmith500]

Well EMS Sasuke can handle well use of MS abiltiies, which are enhanced or boosted by the way. Considering that Sasuke doesn't feel eye strain anymore and adding mobility to Susanoo even without PS EMS Sasuke would beat Hiashi.

maybe if Hiashi had more feats...,but with canon material EMS Sasuke beats him low-mid diff.

Cant argue with that since hiashi lacks even 10 minuts of actual panel time so we cant juggle with his full abilities and reserves, But assuming its above neji's given the scale of his techniques meanin he could potentially spam jyuken techniques even more than SRA Neji who could an wouldve spamed rotations.
What exactly is leged Sussano'o without CM gonna do against a blast of jyuken chakra able to destroy the chakra an consume the susano completely an send it flyin with a violent shockwave? Sasuke would end up still losing more chakra than hiashi in the end since wall palm will destroy his construct.

Sasuke's speed and kenjutsu skills are neged.
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[Apêx1]

Also whats stopping hiashi from beating EMS Sasuke ext high dif bar PS?

Hiashi only gets a total of 5 minuts or less of panel time yet the hyuuga leader show's how easily with enough panel he couldve solo'd a good portion of NV, His Twin lion Fist could potentially equal the scale of his other techniques an be propelled with a vacuum blast like a kind of "Hirdora" blast Lol OP material right there.

Well Sasuke's EMS makes him a different person altogether, I can't really see him losing with a legged v3. And yea, pretty haxxed.

The hyuga fans of the past have been arguing this over itachi and sasuke fans. They will never say a hyuga beats neither. Repeating what they already have been exposed to, If you were really here back in the day like you said you should remember. We just stopped trying now a days.

Well yea, but manga has progressed massively since then, and knowing Air Palm's Db translation and Twin Lion Fist's DB translation indicating Hiashi can use it. Back then it was far more debatable, now it's seemingly obvious that Hiashi beats Sasuke. And what if I was back in the day? That doesn't stop me from preaching Hiashi's abilities.

Hebi Sasuke gets the job done

Because Hebi Sasuke can stop air wall palm. :|

 

[Kakooli]

Base start of part 2 Sasuke would be able to take him. MS is a stomp.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Base start of part 2 Sasuke would be able to take him. MS is a stomp.

and your arguments for bold are ?

Seriously fourth databook and Special book which came for purpouse of the movie disagree and prove you wrong U_U

 

[neosmith500]

Well Sasuke's EMS makes him a different person altogether, I can't really see him losing with a legged v3. And yea, pretty haxxed.

But how is v3 leged susano gonna counter the chakra destroying blast of vacuum wall?, If he blocks it still gets destroyed by the blast sendin sasuke flying with a destroyed susano. He cant escape hiashi field of vision an will get blasted immediately.
Enton is countered the same as Ama an will only cripple sasuke's reserves plus potential internal damage from vacuum palm.

How exactly does EMS sasuke win without CM or PS?
If i get a legit reason then ill accept it immediately.

 

[KCMNaruto]

But how is v3 leged susano gonna counter the chakra destroying blast of vacuum wall?, If he blocks it still gets destroyed by the blast sendin sasuke flying with a destroyed susano. He cant escape hiashi field of vision an will get blasted immediately.
Enton is countered the same as Ama an will only cripple sasuke's reserves plus potential damage from vacuum palm.

How exactly does EMS sasuke win without CM or PS?
If i get a gud reason then ill accept it immediately.

I believe you forgot legged Susanoo can leap forward cover big distance in one of leap, while being in air he can shoot arrow which could be problem for Hiashi, also if he shoot arrow from susanoo and wait for Hashi to stop rotation and just then use Amaterasu in combination with enton then he could kill Hiashi.

If not, then Enton would shape Amaterasu and make them solid probably possibly penetrating it even if a bit making Hiashi stunned or distracted and then throw magatama enton to end Hiashi.

I see too many possibilities of EMS Sasuke beating Hiashi even without PS..., unless Hiashi has speed advangate and quite a big then he can not beat EMS Sasuke.

 

[Apêx1]

But how is v3 leged susano gonna counter the chakra destroying blast of vacuum wall?, If he blocks it still gets destroyed by the blast sendin sasuke flying with a destroyed susano. He cant escape hiashi field of vision an will get blasted immediately.
Enton is countered the same as Ama an will only cripple sasuke's reserves plus potential internal damage from vacuum palm.

How exactly does EMS sasuke win without CM or PS?
If i get a legit reason then ill accept it immediately.

Because he jumps in the same direction as the Air Palm, negating a large amount of its impact force.