[VS] Hiashi Hyūga vs MS Sasuke

[Apêx1]

Location: Deidara vs Sasuke
Intel: Full
Restrictions: None
Intent: Kill
Distance: 25 meters

Who takes this?

 

[TheEvilOne]

VotE Sasuke can beat this guy with high difficulty.

 

[KCMNaruto]

if speed is equalized or close then Hiashi has big chance wining this,

else Hiashi can be speed blitzed but still has maybe 1% chance of pulling win lol

 

[TheEvilOne]

Even with equalized speed, Sasuke can track his movements via sharingan and use the V1 to block his only offensive ability. Eventually Hiashi gets Chidoried to the heart.

 

[Demonic.]

VotE Sasuke can beat this guy with high difficulty.

You mean Kid Sasuke?

 

[Apêx1]

You mean Kid Sasuke?

Lol, he's trolling.. Ignore that overly sensitive child.

 

[TheEvilOne]

You mean Kid Sasuke?

That, or current VotE Sasuke after his battle with Naruto.

Take away Hiashi's hype, and he is a sitting duck with one offensive ability.

 

[adeshina365]

Sasuke stomps.

 

[Apêx1]

Someone has yet to explain how Sasuke stomps. Speed is no problem for a Byakugan user with hand speed great enough to generate massive shockwaves. He'll perceive him, he'll stop him. In what way does Sasuke end Hiashi?

 

[KCMNaruto]

Even with equalized speed, Sasuke can track his movements via sharingan and use the V1 to block his only offensive ability. Eventually Hiashi gets Chidoried to the heart.

Nope with speed equalized, even although Sasuke can track his movements via sharingan, getting in close combat would end badly for Sasuke. Hiashi's air palm was able to stop and even push back Juubi's arm. I doubt any Sussano lower then v3 can even manage to stop it. Hiashi uses rotation and reflect chidori force leaving Sasuke stunned.

That said, only when speed is equalized Hiashi can beat him. EMS Sasuke destroys Hiashi although

 

[Transcendence]

VotE Sasuke can beat this guy with high difficulty.

And you wonder why no one here takes you seriously...

OT: I'm leaning towards MS Sasuke, but it's in no way a stomp. People sleep on Hiashi and the Hyuuga in general thinking that they're only CQC based, but that alone takes away an entire facet of fighting, alongside various mid range techniques like Air Palm, scaled to being able to knock back the Juubi's massive hand, Sasuke doesn't have it easy. If we take into account that the Juubi's hand is much larger than any Susano'o MS Sasuke is capable of using, Sasuke would be forced to use his Final Susano'o otherwise all others get blown open by Hiashi's Air Palm.

 

[KCMNaruto]

And you wonder why no one here takes you seriously...

OT: I'm leaning towards MS Sasuke, but it's in no way a stomp. People sleep on Hiashi and the Hyuuga in general thinking that they're only CQC based, but that alone takes away an entire facet of fighting, alongside various mid range techniques like Air Palm, scaled to being able to knock back the Juubi's massive hand, Sasuke doesn't have it easy. If we take into account that the Juubi's hand is much larger than any Susano'o MS Sasuke is capable of using, Sasuke would be forced to use his Final Susano'o otherwise all others get blown open by Hiashi's Air Palm.

This exactly is the same way I think, also Hiashi has only chance if his speed is close, equal to speed of MS Sasuke. If higher then it only gives him more advantage.

 

[Demonic.]

Which state of MS Sasuke?

Kage Summit, Killer Bee, or Danzo?

If it's the one that fought Danzo I believe Sasuke wins low/mid diff with Susano. Anything below loses imo.

 

[neosmith500]

Why no start distance? Anyway Vacuum Wall Palm is a instant death if sasuke gets hit unprotected and his strongest sussano'o will get pushed with enough jyuuken chakra and force that can repel the juubi's V2 tail sweep without naruto's chakra, A blast of chakra that specifically destroys "Chakra constructs" Using the Byakugan's insight to pinpoint a weak area same as danzo, only difference is hiashi's jyuuken style specifically destroys chakra as opposed to "Wind style" which was able to carve a rift in the construct.

Hiashi's speed is unknown but he can easily avoid a blizt by simply preping a "Large Palm Rotation" Instantly covering a large area around himself by chakra which stop is many times larger than neji's chakra shield which will cause sasuke to slam into the giant shield for a large rotation or halt his advance.
Amaterasu and Sussano'o arrows are also diverted with this same method as danzo did using a tree.

Sasuke ext high diff.

 

[Bantos]

Earlier I would've said immediately MS Sasuke, but now that the Hyuga wankers have been wanking Hiashiso that I don't know who wins this.
It could go either way.

 

[Apêx1]

Why no start distance? Anyway Vacuum Wall Palm is a instant death if sasuke gets hit unprotected and his strongest sussano'o will get pushed with enough jyuuken chakra and force that can repel the juubi's V2 tail sweep without naruto's chakra, A blast of chakra that specifically destroys "Chakra constructs" Using the Byakugan's insight to pinpoint a weak area same as danzo, only difference is hiashi's jyuuken style specifically destroys chakra as opposed to "Wind style" which was able to carve a rift in the construct.

Hiashi's speed is unknown but he can easily avoid a blizt by simply preping a "Large Palm Rotation" Instantly covering a large area around himself by chakra which stop is many times larger than neji's chakra shield which will cause sasuke to slam into the giant shield for a large rotation or halt his advance.
Amaterasu and Sussano'o arrows are also diverted with this same method as danzo did using a tree.

Sasuke ext high diff.

Good points, but how does Sasuke ultimately put an end to him?

 

[KCMNaruto]

Which state of MS Sasuke?

Kage Summit, Killer Bee, or Danzo?

If it's the one that fought Danzo I believe Sasuke wins low/mid diff with Susano. Anything below loses imo.

Can you elborate about it. It is not that I doubt it but I would like to know the base of your thinking way.

I mean Nothing else then Final Susanoo of MS Sasuke would stand against Full powered Air palms of Hiashi which could bust Susanoo, besides that while MS Sasuke would have immobile Susanoo as canon facts.

If we assume Hiashi is about as fast as MS Sasuke, then well Hiashi has chance as MS Sasuke got eye strain for too long using MS abilties which would mean the longer battle last in worse state Sasuke will be.

Why no start distance? Anyway Vacuum Wall Palm is a instant death if sasuke gets hit unprotected and his strongest sussano'o will get pushed with enough jyuuken chakra and force that can repel the juubi's V2 tail sweep without naruto's chakra, A blast of chakra that specifically destroys "Chakra constructs" Using the Byakugan's insight to pinpoint a weak area same as danzo, only difference is hiashi's jyuuken style specifically destroys chakra as opposed to "Wind style" which was able to carve a rift in the construct.

Hiashi's speed is unknown but he can easily avoid a blizt by simply preping a "Large Palm Rotation" Instantly covering a large area around himself by chakra which stop is many times larger than neji's chakra shield which will cause sasuke to slam into the giant shield for a large rotation or halt his advance.
Amaterasu and Sussano'o arrows are also diverted with this same method as danzo did using a tree.

Sasuke ext high diff.

I agree with you all in all. Maybe just with Hiashi having chance also pull the win...

 

[Apêx1]

Amateratsu- Countered with chakra release
Genjutsu- Non-factor in front of Hyuuga eyes
Speed- Perceived with ease, and massive hand speed easily stops him in his tracks. Rotation stops him as well.
Arrow- Deflected with Rotation.
Kenjutsu- Countered with Gentle Fist and Hyuuga bodily chakra exertions.
Susano-Countered with Vacuum Air Palm, Susano does in fact have Tenketsu which can be advantageously used by Hiashi to destroy the construct.
Enton variants- Leaves chakra around his entire hand and attacks, or uses Air palm or absorbed via Twin Lion Fist.

Again, I shall repeat, how does Sasuke ultimately end Hiashi?

 

[neosmith500]

Good points, but how does Sasuke ultimately put an end to him?

The potential of a short genjutsu which can result in a last minute opening for blizt since both have full intel..
Tho Hiashi using the byakugan's insight should beable to avoid direct eye contact by simply viewing the tenketsu which should be pretty obvious for a hyuga to do in this situation Lol With genjutsu taken from out the equation hiashi can win this mid diff dependin on his reserves which should match the scale of his techniques.

Hiashi ultimately has a counter for everthing sasuke has.
Solo Blizt and standard jutsu's =Byakugan and Chakra shield

MS abilities = Jyuuken chakra destroying an blocking aspects.
Ama: neged by jyuken
Rib cage: Neged by vacuum palm
Rib+Ama: Neged by above
Sussano'o an all MS versions neged by vacuum wall.
Genjutsu: In theory easily neged by byakugan viewing the tenketsu.

Sasuke kenjutsu/CQC skills: Neged by Jyuuken skills and abilities.

Hiashi can actually neg Lol

 

[Apêx1]

The potential of a short genjutsu which can result in a last minute opening for blizt since both have full intel..
Tho Hiashi using the byakugan's insight should beable to avoid direct eye contact by simply viewing the tenketsu which should be pretty obvious for a hyuga to do in this situation Lol With genjutsu taken from out the equation hiashi can win this mid diff dependin on his reserves which should match the scale of his techniques.

Hiashi ultimately has a counter for everthing sasuke has.
Solo Blizt and standard jutsu's =Byakugan and Chakra shield

MS abilities = Jyuuken chakra destroying an blocking aspects.
Ama: neged by jyuken
Rib cage: Neged by vacuum palm
Rib+Ama: Neged by above
Sussano'o an all MS versions neged by vacuum wall.
Genjutsu: In theory easily neged by byakugan viewing the tenketsu.

Sasuke kenjutsu/CQC skills: Neged by Jyuuken skills and abilities.

Genjutsu doesn't work on Hyuga's though, they can scan the chakra in their environment as Hinata and Ao have shown. So I'm guessing Sasuke has no way of ending this.