Obitos movement and reactions speeds are slightly lower than Kakashis so they are lower than both Raikage in this case. If they fight back to back I don't see how they lose. If he goes to Kamui Ay, Hell Stab blitz from Sandaime chops him in two. If he goes to Kamui Sandaime, Ay blitzes with Lateral Chop and kills him because he needs to be physical to absorb one of them.
Fact 1: She was talking about his intangible only lasting for 5 minutes at a time and 5 plus 5 is 10, thus her setting it for more then 10 so he has no gaps.
Fact 2: Izanagi Users can spawn where ever they choose with in a certain range.
Fact 3: Obito didnt even stay in the explosion! lmmfao!!!! She said a few words then he spawned behind her. Now unless any of you are retarded enough to think she talked in super slow motion use common sense.
Fact 4: He has one eye (not counting his MS eye) to use with Izanagi! Period! Once izanagi is used that eye closes and can never be used again! What Dafuq are any of you reading?
Please please pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee show me where he can use iznagi for 10 minutes. That phrase in it's self doesn't even make sense!
Wow, looks like we have a rager. Take a chill pill.
1. Yes, but it does allow for the opportunity for 10 minutes. As Drapshin stated, putting his hand on his mask implied that Obito activated it immediately.
2. Nice, except he was never shown behind her when we saw a very clear picture of the area, and when he showed up, it was only then when his eye closed, which marks the end of izanagi. I hope you're not suggesting that, Obito somehow suspended his sight loss and didn't have at least 5 minutes of potential izanagi.
3. No proof of that. He clearly spawned behind her significantly after the explosion given we hadn't seen him beforehand. Regardless, what am I arguing against here?
4. That's nice. Your point? I hope you're not implying 1 minute per eye for izanagi is an absolute rule, because we clearly saw Obito's last at least 5 minutes and likely 10, and then there's this statement.
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Danzo's izanagi was incomplete, and Obito's better. If you think otherwise and say it only lasts 1 minute, you can suck it up, and look at manga facts.
Wow, looks like we have a rager. Take a chill pill.
1. Yes, but it does allow for the opportunity for 10 minutes. As Drapshin stated, putting his hand on his mask implied that Obito activated it immediately.
2. Nice, except he was never shown behind her when we saw a very clear picture of the area, and when he showed up, it was only then when his eye closed, which marks the end of izanagi. I hope you're not suggesting that, Obito somehow suspended his sight loss and didn't have at least 5 minutes of potential izanagi.
3. No proof of that. He clearly spawned behind her significantly after the explosion given we hadn't seen him beforehand. Regardless, what am I arguing against here?
4. That's nice. Your point? I hope you're not implying 1 minute per eye for izanagi is an absolute rule, because we clearly saw Obito's last at least 5 minutes and likely 10, and then there's this statement.
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Danzo's izanagi was incomplete, and Obito's better. If you think otherwise and say it only lasts 1 minute, you can suck it up, and look at manga facts.
So she talked for ten minutes is what you're telling me? Then you're telling me based off nothing that his Izanagi last ten minutes? How is that manga fact when you have no proof? You are literally making baseless claims. I guess you didn't know that with Izanagi you can indeed preset your izanagi to activate at a certain time huh? That is fact! So based off that fact and the fact you do not know what went on, how does anything you say make any sense?
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SO again I ask you, where are you getting this rubbish from? I have facts to back my claims up.
So she talked for ten minutes is what you're telling me? Then you're telling me based off nothing that his Izanagi last ten minutes? How is that manga fact when you have no proof? You are literally making baseless claims. I guess you didn't know that with Izanagi you can indeed preset your izanagi to activate at a certain time huh? That is fact! So based off that fact and the fact you do not know what went on, how does anything you say make any sense?
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Oh wow, just wow. Claiming I'm basing my opinion on nothing despite me bringing in scans that support what I say.
SO again I ask you, where are you getting this rubbish from? I have facts to back my claims up.
You do realize that your posts look like they're being made by someone with a hissy fit right?
Based on nothing my but. Fact, there was at least 10 minutes of explosions. Fact: Kamui can only be used for 5 minutes.
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Therefore, it was, at the very least, 5 minutes before izanagi's activation since the attack stopped. Fact.
Obito only lost his eyesight (end of jutsu) after he stabbed Konan. Fact.
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So only a fool with a cocky attitude towards his own opinon would say I'm basing my view on nothing
Now, let's get into your little denial counter.
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1. The jutsu can be activated at certain times, but what you're not mentioning is that, by extension, means that it is not activated for that duration. This means Izanagi would not be activated during the time that paper bombs would be obliterating the eye that would activate it. The source of the jutsu would be gone with no protection. In that case, it'd have to have been activated in the first place, and only chose to resurrect after the 10 minutes.
2. Another thing you don't mention is that when you see Madara, he's blind even before he opens his eyes, possibly implying that such a thing leads to instant blindness, whereas Obito did not go blind immediately.
3. That method had not even been introduced in the manga at that point in time.
4. Obito never attributes the power of MS to his izanagi capabilities. No no no non no. He attributes it to his Hashirama powers.
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No mention of MS is there?
As you can clearly see, you've reversed our positions. I form my view based on manga events and heavily implied context, while you base your view on what could be what happened. Your post is taking a new method of izanagi not discovered before, and trying to cram it into previous manga chapters that have had nothing to do with said usage in order to nerf Obito. My evidence far exceeds your own. No amount of hissy fits will change this.
So she talked for ten minutes is what you're telling me? Then you're telling me based off nothing that his Izanagi last ten minutes? How is that manga fact when you have no proof? You are literally making baseless claims. I guess you didn't know that with Izanagi you can indeed preset your izanagi to activate at a certain time huh? That is fact! So based off that fact and the fact you do not know what went on, how does anything you say make any sense?
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SO again I ask you, where are you getting this rubbish from? I have facts to back my claims up.
You do realize that your posts look like they're being made by someone with a hissy fit right?
Based on nothing my but. Fact, there was at least 10 minutes of explosions. Fact: Kamui can only be used for 5 minutes.
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Therefore, it was, at the very least, 5 minutes before izanagi's activation since the attack stopped. Fact.
Obito only lost his eyesight (end of jutsu) after he stabbed Konan. Fact.
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So only a fool with a cocky attitude towards his own opinon would say I'm basing my view on nothing
Now, let's get into your little denial counter.
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1. The jutsu can be activated at certain times, but what you're not mentioning is that, by extension, means that it is not activated for that duration. This means Izanagi would not be activated during the time that paper bombs would be obliterating the eye that would activate it. The source of the jutsu would be gone with no protection. In that case, it'd have to have been activated in the first place, and only chose to resurrect after the 10 minutes.
2. Another thing you don't mention is that when you see Madara, he's blind even before he opens his eyes, possibly implying that such a thing leads to instant blindness, whereas Obito did not go blind immediately.
3. That method had not even been introduced in the manga at that point in time.
4. Obito never attributes the power of MS to his izanagi capabilities. No no no non no. He attributes it to his Hashirama powers.
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No mention of MS is there?
As you can clearly see, you've reversed are positions. I form my view based on manga events and heavily implied context, while you base your view on what could be what happened. Your post is taking a new method of izanagi not discovered before, and trying to cram it into previous manga chapters that have had nothing to do with said usage in order to nerf Obito. My evidence far exceeds your own. No amount of hissy fits will change this.
This is me laughing at your post with all the rubbish. I'm not mad at you, I'm laughing! Learn the difference.
You literally proved nothing and are saying the same thing over and over when it is a fact there jutsus can be used at different times and doesn't have to be used then and there. This is no disputing. So again reread what black zestu stated and even have an example of sb even that happened 100 chapters prior. You can think he can use izanagi infinitely with in ten minutes all you want, but it hasn't been shown nor hinted. That is what we call rubbish since it holds no ground.
And why so sensitive kid, don't shed a tear over naruto.
Raikage duos win this. I'd like to see an explanation on how Obito wins if someone is willing to explain Really curious considering if he takes one to the other dimension, they can take advantage of this attacking him from both worlds.
Raikage duos win this. I'd like to see an explanation on how Obito wins if someone is willing to explain Really curious considering if he takes one to the other dimension, they can take advantage of this attacking him from both worlds.
Exactly! And in either world he cannot harm neither. they are both too fast to get absorbed, plus he has to be solid so the other can easily one shot when he attempts to absorb the other.
Exactly! And in either world he cannot harm neither. they are both too fast to get absorbed, plus he has to be solid so the other can easily one shot when he attempts to absorb the other.
To those saying Obito's Izanagi lasts 10 minutes, how do you guys know Obito didn't set his Izanagi to revive him 10 minutes after he died, so he could sneak up on Konan when her guard was down? Madara already did this. He was dead for a few days to a week.
Fact 1: She was talking about his intangible only lasting for 5 minutes at a time and 5 plus 5 is 10, thus her setting it for more then 10 so he has no gaps.
Irrelevant, she made sure obito couldn't escape by extending the length of her bombs to double obito's intangibility limit. He then used izanagi as an alternative to avoid the damage.
Fact 2: Izanagi Users can spawn where ever they choose with in a certain range.
Again, irrelevant, obito spawed behind konan after the blast had already taken place, & the fact that his eye was still open means that izanagi was active after she used her jutsu. [
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Fact 3: Obito didnt even stay in the explosion! lmmfao!!!!
She said a few words, detonated her bombs, then once they were finished obito appeared behind her with no injuries & while already having izanagi active. Couple that with the fact that the manga showed us obito preparing the jutsu before the blast & the fact that you can make out a faint outline in the scan I highlighted then you can see that there are obvious implications.
Now unless any of you are retarded enough to think she talked in super slow motion use common sense.
I suggest going over the chain of events before calling people retarded or saying they lack any common sense. Seriously, if you want to get your point across then you don't have to be an ass about it, just sayin.
Fact 4: He has one eye (not counting his MS eye) to use with Izanagi! Period! Once izanagi is used that eye closes and can never be used again! What Dafuq are any of you reading?
10 minutes with one eye, or even 5 for that matter is more than enough time to end the fight considering the speed of his jutsu & the characters he's facing.
Please please pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee show me where he can use iznagi for 10 minutes. That phrase in it's self doesn't even make sense!
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izanagi [logically lasts longer], & the manga showed him prepping it before the 10 minute explosion took place, & ending it after the 10 minute explosion, meaning at the very least his izanagi session is 5 minutes assuming he used up his intangibility limit first.
To those saying Obito's Izanagi lasts 10 minutes, how do you guys know Obito didn't set his Izanagi to revive him 10 minutes after he died, so he could sneak up on Konan when her guard was down? Madara already did this. He was dead for a few days to a week.
See that's impossible because madara still had the wound that killed him after he was revived, if obito did what madara did then he'd still be obliterated in the explosion & thus his eye wouldn't be able to activate.
This is me laughing at your post with all the rubbish. I'm not mad at you, I'm laughing! Learn the difference.
You literally proved nothing and are saying the same thing over and over when it is a fact there jutsus can be used at different times and doesn't have to be used then and there. This is no disputing. So again reread what black zestu stated and even have an example of sb even that happened 100 chapters prior. You can think he can use izanagi infinitely with in ten minutes all you want, but it hasn't been shown nor hinted. That is what we call rubbish since it holds no ground.
And why so sensitive kid, don't shed a tear over naruto.
Raikage duos win this. I'd like to see an explanation on how Obito wins if someone is willing to explain Really curious considering if he takes one to the other dimension, they can take advantage of this attacking him from both worlds.
Well, Obito can seemingly put someone under genjutsu as soon as they get there. (doesn't make much sense otherwise, since he'd be better off killing them in the real world) I think the only exceptions are Kakashi and Naruto. Kakashi being someone with the same eye, and Naruto being someone with a perfect jin, and is immune to most genjutsu.
Neither of these guys can hit Obito. They can't blitz him. Wood style trapping or izanami suicide grabs may work.
Irrelevant, she made sure obito couldn't escape by extending the length of her bombs to double obito's intangibility limit. He then used izanagi as an alternative to avoid the damage.
Again, irrelevant, obito spawed behind konan after the blast had already taken place, & the fact that his eye was still open means that izanagi was active after she used her jutsu. [
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First of all look at this outline & tell me that isn't a person.
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Even if you don't think that's a person, it was already established that obito couldn't escape the trap she set. [
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She said a few words, detonated her bombs, then once they were finished obito appeared behind her with no injuries & while already having izanagi active. Couple that with the fact that the manga showed us obito preparing the jutsu before the blast & the fact that you can make out a faint outline in the scan I highlighted then you can see that there are obvious implications.
I suggest going over the chain of events before calling people retarded or saying they lack any common sense. Seriously, if you want to get your point across then you don't have to be an ass about it, just sayin.
10 minutes with one eye, or even 5 for that matter is more than enough time to end the fight considering the speed of his jutsu & the characters he's facing.
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izanagi [logically lasts longer], & the manga showed him prepping it before the 10 minute explosion took place, & ending it after the 10 minute explosion, meaning at the very least his izanagi session is 5 minutes assuming he used up his intangibility limit first.
See that's impossible because madara still had the wound that killed him after he was revived, if obito did what madara did then he'd still be obliterated in the explosion & thus his eye wouldn't be able to activate.
Madara didn't know his death was coming, while Obito did. Madara set up Izanagi as a precuation, so that's most likely why he still had the wound.
The thing is Obito respawned 10 minutes later, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is immortal for 10 minutes considering Obito died as soon as he was caught in the explosions (he might have stayed intangible for 5 minutes).
Madara respawned days (maybe weeks?) later, that doesn't mean Madara's immortality lasts weeks. He was already dead, the respawn time is what lasted up to days/weeks.
Madara didn't know his death was coming, while Obito did. Madara set up Izanagi as a precuation, so that's most likely why he still had the wound.
The thing is Obito respawned 10 minutes later, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is immortal for 10 minutes considering Obito died as soon as he was caught in the explosions (he might have stayed intangible for 5 minutes).
Madara respawned days (maybe weeks?) later, that doesn't mean Madara's immortality lasts weeks. He was already dead, the respawn time is what lasted up to days/weeks.
If obito had set up izanagi the same way that madara did then he should have wounds as well. Madara had set his izanagi to activate after his death, meaning he had to get the wound in order to die. Obito would have to be blown up to the point where he would die if izanagi was to activate in the same manner.
The thing is Obito respawned 10 minutes later, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is immortal for 10 minutes considering Obito died as soon as he was caught in the explosions (he might have stayed intangible for 5 minutes).
His izanagi had to be active for 10 minutes if he appeared behind konan after her jutsu finished. If he did what madara did & simply set himself to respawn 10 minutes later then that would be impossible because he would still sustain damage & his eye would be obliterated.
Madara respawned days (maybe weeks?) later, that doesn't mean Madara's immortality lasts weeks. He was already dead, the respawn time is what lasted up to days/weeks.
@Bold: Exactly, he was already dead when the jutsu activated. If obito did the same thing then the eye which was set to activate 10 minutes after he died would be destroyed & the jutsu wouldn't be able to work. He had to have used izanagi for the duration of the attack, he would've died in any other situation.
Irrelevant, she made sure obito couldn't escape by extending the length of her bombs to double obito's intangibility limit. He then used izanagi as an alternative to avoid the damage.
Again, irrelevant, obito spawed behind konan after the blast had already taken place, & the fact that his eye was still open means that izanagi was active after she used her jutsu. [
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First of all look at this outline & tell me that isn't a person.
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Even if you don't think that's a person, it was already established that obito couldn't escape the trap she set. [
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She said a few words, detonated her bombs, then once they were finished obito appeared behind her with no injuries & while already having izanagi active. Couple that with the fact that the manga showed us obito preparing the jutsu before the blast & the fact that you can make out a faint outline in the scan I highlighted then you can see that there are obvious implications.
I suggest going over the chain of events before calling people retarded or saying they lack any common sense. Seriously, if you want to get your point across then you don't have to be an ass about it, just sayin.
10 minutes with one eye, or even 5 for that matter is more than enough time to end the fight considering the speed of his jutsu & the characters he's facing.
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izanagi [logically lasts longer], & the manga showed him prepping it before the 10 minute explosion took place, & ending it after the 10 minute explosion, meaning at the very least his izanagi session is 5 minutes assuming he used up his intangibility limit first.
See that's impossible because madara still had the wound that killed him after he was revived, if obito did what madara did then he'd still be obliterated in the explosion & thus his eye wouldn't be able to activate.
So you have no other proof, just you raging. Got it. Concession accepted.
Well, Obito can seemingly put someone under genjutsu as soon as they get there. (doesn't make much sense otherwise, since he'd be better off killing them in the real world) I think the only exceptions are Kakashi and Naruto. Kakashi being someone with the same eye, and Naruto being someone with a perfect jin, and is immune to most genjutsu.
Neither of these guys can hit Obito. They can't blitz him. Wood style trapping or izanami suicide grabs may work.
If obito had set up izanagi the same way that madara did then he should have wounds as well. Madara had set his izanagi to activate after his death, meaning he had to get the wound in order to die. Obito would have to be blown up to the point where he would die if izanagi was to activate in the same manner.
His izanagi had to be active for 10 minutes if he appeared behind konan after her jutsu finished. If he did what madara did & simply set himself to respawn 10 minutes later then that would be impossible because he would still sustain damage & his eye would be obliterated.
@Bold: Exactly, he was already dead when the jutsu activated. If obito did the same thing then the eye which was set to activate 10 minutes after he died would be destroyed & the jutsu wouldn't be able to work. He had to have used izanagi for the duration of the attack, he would've died in any other situation.
You base your claim of Obito having "ten minutes" worth of Izanagi on the fact the eye didn't close till after he spawned correct? But that is where you and your click failed at my guys.
Izanagi doesnt go blind at the time of use, it goes blind after you have re-spawned:
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That is Fact 1.
Next; Danzo doesn't have "10 minutes worth of immortality" with his Izanagi that is a misconception. Danzo had 10 (11 with shisu) lives with the use of Izanagi, but each eye only last a minute till they close auto. SO Danzo can choose to deactivate the jutsu and still have lets say 6 sharingans left (thus 6 lives) and go days untill he wants to use the eyes again. Or a ninja like Gai can kill him 10 times in 1 minute
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Danzo got killed a about 7 times out of the ten lives, and most of them were back to back kills with in seconds. Keep that in mind.
We next go to the the fact Uchiha can preset there Eye techs to activate at a later date. He stated WITH MANGEKYO (which he does have) you can preset techs. Itachi with Ms preset Ama, Madara with his ems preset his izanagi. And if you look at the pic you see even though madara preset it with his EMS when teh jutsu was later activated it showed basic 3 tomoe, so please be quiet in saying "he used ms" bs. You do not even have to be alive (itachi and madara's case) for your eye techs to activate (fact). It's the same with shisu, even though he was long dead, the chakra in his eye could still be activated later on.
Next is the fact he could use Kamui for 5 mins, then attempt to
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. You just don't know. But what we do know is that the user of Izanagi can preset it to activate even after death, the eye close after it is used, and your body doesn't have to be left since it gets "erased" afterwards or eventually afterwards as seen with madara and Danzo.
Fact is you have no proof it lasted 10 minutes. And even if your fanfic was legit they will keep blitzing till all 10 minutes are up, simple as that is it not? Unless you think his 1 kamui is super duper hyper fast now.
Next we get to the match up. Obito is wayyyyyy too slow to absorb either Raikage! Period! He couldn't even absorb base Guy, a non shunshin BM naruto, kakashi etc etc etc. They are both fast enough and have the reaction to either move out of range or simply help the other. They protect each other no diff, or lets say one gets absorbed; one is in that dimension while the other is in the real world. That is insta rape!
And no! He doesn't automatically place ppl in genjutsu when sent to the Kamui world. Karin and sasuke were just fine, so was Madara, sakura etc etc. That is a baseless claim on another level! He literally have no way of winning this what so ever. Unless he can summon the Kyubi or other bijuu etc etc.
Draegod, I disagree with you here. Im sure Danzo's Izanagi is base on 10 mins (1 min each eye). He can die as many times as he wants under 1 minute, it will only waste 1 eye.
Well, Obito can seemingly put someone under genjutsu as soon as they get there. (doesn't make much sense otherwise, since he'd be better off killing them in the real world) I think the only exceptions are Kakashi and Naruto. Kakashi being someone with the same eye, and Naruto being someone with a perfect jin, and is immune to most genjutsu.
Yeah but that won't be easy considering they won't automatically let him do so given their speed and he'd be forced to materialize if they attack him. Not to mention nothing is his arsenal can actually put down the third. I do see your reasoning about Kakashi and the Naruto case but these 2 are high leveled when it comes to speed and close combat fight especially taking stamina and that into consideration.
Neither of these guys can hit Obito. They can't blitz him. Wood style trapping or izanami suicide grabs may work.
Yes but they can force him to go intangible especially if they end up in both worlds. Also, he has to be physical to absorb in which the other can take advantage of.
I don't think his wood style would be helping here given their physical strength as Naruto could easily destroy it in the bottom left of this scan
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. Maybe Izanagi as I'm not to familiar with his own version but would that really make much of a difference?
You base your claim of Obito having "ten minutes" worth of Izanagi on the fact the eye didn't close till after he spawned correct? But that is where you and your click failed at my guys.
No, I base my claim of obito having 10 minutes on the fact that the manga implied he activated his jutsu before the 10 minute explosion, & ended it after it finished.
Izanagi doesnt go blind at the time of use, it goes blind after you have re-spawned:
"Fact 1" Is irrelevant, I know this, never denied this, & it changes nothing.
EDIT: Noticed the bold then the rest of your argument, not the case.
Next; Danzo doesn't have "10 minutes worth of immortality" with his Izanagi that is a misconception. Danzo had 10 (11 with shisu) lives with the use of Izanagi, but each eye only last a minute till they close auto.
Idk what you're going on about him only having "lives", it was established that no physical harm can come to an izanagi user during the time it's active. Meaning danzo can die as many times as he wants within the 1 minute duration he has for each eye. EJBlack provided the proof.
SO Danzo can choose to deactivate the jutsu and still have lets say 6 sharingans left (thus 6 lives) and go days untill he wants to use the eyes again. Or a ninja like Gai can kill him 10 times in 1 minute
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. Which is why Sasuke was smart enough to pressure danzo and have him waste them faster them him using them on his own terms.
This is proof you just don't know how izanagi works, no it doesn't close after each death, it closes after a minute [or however long the jutsu lasts]. The user can
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, all within the duration of the jutsu's activation, & once that duration is up the eye closes & the jutsu finishes.
You posting scans of danzo's eye closing means nothing either, danzo just so happened to be dead at the time an eye closed,
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Danzo got killed a about 7 times out of the ten lives, and most of them were back to back kills with in seconds. Keep that in mind.
They were not within seconds, that's how you interpret the series of events. Each eye closes after a minute, there is nothing stated in the manga which says otherwise, the scans you're posting are mere coincidences.
We next go to the the fact Uchiha can preset there Eye techs to activate at a later date. He stated WITH MANGEKYO (which he does have) you can preset techs. Itachi with Ms preset Ama, Madara with his ems preset his izanagi. And if you look at the pic you see even though madara preset it with his EMS when teh jutsu was later activated it showed basic 3 tomoe, so please be quiet in saying "he used ms" bs. You do not even have to be alive (itachi and madara's case) for your eye techs to activate (fact). It's the same with shisu, even though he was long dead, the chakra in his eye could still be activated later on.
More proof you don't know how izanagi works. As I explained to AnAwesomeSenju, if obito had preset izanagi to activate after his death then the he would still sustain damage like madara did when he died. Meaning obito & his eye would've been obliterated before the jutsu could activate since they were surrounded by bombs.
Lol @ The bold, not even arguing the fact that you can preset sharingan techniques, you can probably do it with basic 3T. Point here is that obito didn't preset izanagi because if he did then he would still be dead, a smoldering pile of ash to be exact.
Next is the fact he could use Kamui for 5 mins, then attempt to
Smh, first of all I already said that it's possible but highly unlikely that he used up his intangibility limit first. The manga scans imply he activated the jutsu before the explosions took place. & The fact that obito appeared behind konan with no new injuries debunks the possibility of him absorbing the explosions. The 2nd scan you provided shows that he can't absorb them on his own, so if he did what you're claiming then he used izanagi to do it.
The user of Izanagi can preset it to activate even after death,
Dunno what you're trying to say here, if you're trying to justify a reason as to why obito didn't receive any damage then this isn't going to do it. If obito preset it he would have wounds, if he had it active the whole time then he would have no wounds, simple.
Laughable, you're blatantly ignoring the facts & trying to create new rules for a jutsu when none of the sort are established. The proof is in the fact that he survived the 10 minute explosion & appeared behind konan with izanagi active. Izanagi is only stated to rewrite any disadvantage within a set time limit & danzo's izanagi wasn't perfected like obito's was so it logically lasts for a shorter period of time. What we can't say for sure is when exactly obito activated it but the manga drops a pretty heavy hint through the fact that he
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before the explosion.
And even if your fanfic was legit they will keep blitzing till all 10 minutes are up, simple as that is it not? Unless you think his 1 kamui is super duper hyper fast now.
Lol, fanfic. Anyways he tanks the attack & warps them away, & last time I checked these guys weren't sensors so tell me how they'll know when obito's behind them? & Without manga intel, they have no idea that obito can even respawn after being killed so if the suicide warp doesn't work then a surprise warp after his "death" is just as viable.
Minato is a sensor, he didn't realize that obito was behind him until he was
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. Obito can do
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, meaning that little time the raikages' have to realize he's even behind them gets stripped away [note, not comparing reactions here, but you can't react to something that you don't even know is coming].
Next we get to the match up. Obito is wayyyyyy too slow to absorb either Raikage! Period! He couldn't even absorb base Guy, a non shunshin BM naruto, kakashi etc etc etc.
Lol 1, He couldn't absorb gai because he was attacking a taijutsu master head on, & the terrain was also awful for him, gai could literally jump from platform to platform phasing through him every time. Prove that gai can react to a surprise warp.
Lol 2, BM naruto >> Any raikage in speed, & obito can easily warp kakashi away since he
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before he could use kamui [& we already know that him using kamui is
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an attack].
Obito >> Kakashi in speed, but kakashi has the advantage in base.
They are both fast enough and have the reaction to either move out of range or simply help the other.
] Basically, once you're inside of obito's dimension you're at his mercy, he can drop off the raikages to separate parts of the world then he'll never have to worry about being attacked from both dimensions.
And no! He doesn't automatically place ppl in genjutsu when sent to the Kamui world. Karin and sasuke were just fine, so was Madara, sakura etc etc. That is a baseless claim on another level!
This was never something I said but obito can still easily place the raikages in a genjutsu, all he has to do is use izanagi to tank an attack [while phasing through anything that could decapitate him] then they have nowhere to go.
He literally have no way of winning this what so ever. Unless he can summon the Kyubi or other bijuu etc etc.
Surprise warps & no info on izanagi will be the raikages' downfall. Hell can we also not skim over the fact that the raikages' will definitely be losing if it comes down do a battle of attrition? Seeing as they're pumping an excessive amount of chakra in comparison to obito who can use kamui even on his deathbed.
