Sasori is completely immune to Hanzo's poison and gas attacks. So his main advantage over opponents is out the window.
How sharp or strong is his scythe? Can it break Hiruko?
And once Iron Sand is out, it's pretty much game over.
Sasori is completely immune to Hanzo's poison and gas attacks. So his main advantage over opponents is out the window.
How sharp or strong is his scythe? Can it break Hiruko?
And once Iron Sand is out, it's pretty much game over.
Hanzo easily blitz hiruko and destroys it. His scythe was able to slice chakra enhanced steel, wood is nothing. Or he simply blows him up off bat with ground explosion. Hanzou is also imuned to poison so he can rush in with no worries. Ibuse sneak attacks from below either one shots sasori or helps him escape attacks by hiding in the earth. Explosive Kunais deal with a majority of puppets. The only problem is the 3rd kazekage. If he uses the 3rd to go airborn he can be safe from being killed on land, but hanzo can use ibises to retreat in and out of the ground and be safe. Their lies the stand still and the high diff plus.
Hanzo easily blitz hiruko and destroys it. His scythe was able to slice chakra enhanced steel, wood is nothing. Or he simply blows him up off bat with ground explosion. Hanzou is also imuned to poison so he can rush in with no worries. Ibuse sneak attacks from below either one shots sasori or helps him escape attacks by hiding in the earth. Explosive Kunais deal with a majority of puppets. The only problem is the 3rd kazekage. If he uses the 3rd to go airborn he can be safe from being killed on land, but hanzo can use ibises to retreat in and out of the ground and be safe. Their lies the stand still and the high diff plus.
Scan of it slicing Chakra enhanced steel?
Hanzō's Explosive Tag Jutsu is a trap, not something he can just spawn wherever he feels like.
"Rush in with no worries" - Sasori's weapons can still kill him lol
"One shots Sasori" - Hiruko carves out of Ibuse, or Sasori's puppets kill Ibuse from the outside.
"Explosive Kunais" - Um... Has he been shown using explosive Kunais or are we just giving him extra firepower for no reason? And how many Explosove Kunais would he have...?
If Hanzo uses Ibuse to retreat from Iron Sand, he better go deep underground quickly. Iron Sand can penetrate through the ground.
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Edit: Scratch that second point about the trap Jutsu, I was working off old info from the wiki. But Sasori's speed and reflexes should be able to let him avoid that. And if he can't, he'd only reassemble himself.
Scan of it slicing Chakra enhanced steel?
Hanzō's Explosive Tag Jutsu is a trap, not something he can just spawn wherever he feels like.
"Rush in with no worries" - Sasori's weapons can still kill him lol
"One shots Sasori" - Hiruko carves out of Ibuse, or Sasori's puppets kill Ibuse from the outside.
"Explosive Kunais" - Um... Has he been shown using explosive Kunais or are we just giving him extra firepower for no reason? And how many Explosove Kunais would he have...?
If Hanzo uses Ibuse to retreat from Iron Sand, he better go deep underground quickly. Iron Sand can penetrate through the ground.
Somebody link him my hanzo thread since I'm on my phone please!
The databook never stated it to be a trap.
Sasori easily matched mifune who is arguably one of the fastest base humans with no chakra, Chiyo was able to evade and have Sakura evade every onslaught, hanzo has his scythe to easily deflect all attacks. Pick which option he will go with please!
How would sasori be able to react when ibuse could chump him. Or he be crushed with food cart destroyer? Or cloud sasori's vision for hanzou to one shot him easily no diff with one swipe! Or restraint him his his chain? Again you pick! Sasori has to first use the scrolls on his back for his puppets, then summon them. Hanzo is way to fast to let that slow sequence happen and do nothing. It would be different if he was out of hiruko, and to even use the red technique he has to summon then attach his strings. And again what is stopping hanzo from blitzing through them with his scythe?
Hanzo used explosive Kunais vs the sannin.
Ibuse can pop up and go in the ground and menu vet any direction much faster then the iron sand can breach the ground since Sakura and co were able to not get pierced!
You are arguing with sasori all wrong my guy. Don't make me have to argue with myself on the topic. Haha ?
Somebody link him my hanzo thread since I'm on my phone please!
The databook never stated it to be a trap.
Sasori easily matched mifune who is arguably one of the fastest base humans with no chakra, Chiyo was able to evade and have Sakura evade every onslaught, hanzo has his scythe to easily deflect all attacks. Pick which option he will go with please!
How would sasori be able to react when ibuse could chump him. Or he be crushed with food cart destroyer? Or cloud sasori's vision for hanzou to one shot him easily no diff with one swipe! Or restraint him his his chain? Again you pick! Sasori has to first use the scrolls on his back for his puppets, then summon them. Hanzo is way to fast to let that slow sequence happen and do nothing. It would be different if he was out of hiruko, and to even use the red technique he has to summon then attach his strings. And again what is stopping hanzo from blitzing through them with his scythe?
Hanzo used explosive Kunais vs the sannin.
Ibuse can pop up and go in the ground and menu vet any direction much faster then the iron sand can breach the ground since Sakura and co were able to not get pierced!
You are arguing with sasori all wrong my guy. Don't make me have to argue with myself on the topic. Haha ??????
Honestly I'm not the best debater, especially here since I haven't read Sasori and Hanzō's fights in so long. Debates can be so tedious :l
Icelerate, take over!!
Sasori is puppetq Hanzos poison cant touch him. It's most likely Sasori's poison to kill Hanzo. Only weapone of Hanzo against Sasori is brutal force attacks.
Hanzou poison>>>sasori's poison. 2days>3days and who even mentioned poison? One is imuned yo poison and the other is a puupet. Do any of you read the manga?
Somebody link him my hanzo thread since I'm on my phone please!
The databook never stated it to be a trap.
Sasori easily matched mifune who is arguably one of the fastest base humans with no chakra, Chiyo was able to evade and have Sakura evade every onslaught, hanzo has his scythe to easily deflect all attacks. Pick which option he will go with please!
How would sasori be able to react when ibuse could chump him. Or he be crushed with food cart destroyer? Or cloud sasori's vision for hanzou to one shot him easily no diff with one swipe! Or restraint him his his chain? Again you pick! Sasori has to first use the scrolls on his back for his puppets, then summon them. Hanzo is way to fast to let that slow sequence happen and do nothing. It would be different if he was out of hiruko, and to even use the red technique he has to summon then attach his strings. And again what is stopping hanzo from blitzing through them with his scythe?
Hanzo used explosive Kunais vs the sannin.
Ibuse can pop up and go in the ground and menu vet any direction much faster then the iron sand can breach the ground since Sakura and co were able to not get pierced!
You are arguing with sasori all wrong my guy. Don't make me have to argue with myself on the topic. Haha ??????
The Mifune whose sword broke in half did not use chakra to enhance his sword in that fight [
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Explosive tags are pretty broken, but I can't see Sasori losing to it as long as he can move around with ease, or simply use his Katon seal from a range to forcefully detonate the explosives outside his range. Moreover, he can fire his Iron Sand Projectiles at Hanzo to prevent him from keeping his hand on the floor and stop his tag summon altogether.
Chiyo was said to be a perfect matchup for Sasori. Hanzo is not a perfect matchup, nor does he know all of Sasori's moves from the get-go. And how does the Scythe deflect massive IS attacks? I don't recall his strength feats, pretty sure they are inexistent.
Sasori's IS bisects him, or Satetsu doll cuts it up like a joke with its fangs, while staying unaffected from any poison Ibuse has.
Since when can everyone use Food cart destroyer? Pretty sure DB ascribes it to Toads. Not to mention, even if it is applicable to all summons, you'd have to prove Hanzo has knowledge of this jutsu and he can actually use it in battle. How does he cloud his vision? Everyone was seeing just fine in the poison cloud.. And restraining him with his chain? Not to mention even if there was a cloud from poison (there isn't) hanzo is no sensor and would be blinded to ISW. And no.. There's two people, Sasori and Satetsu, focus on only one and the other will kill you. So no restraining is happening here.
You are just overrating Hanzo's speed here. I have yet to recall any speed feats of him. He was strong, sure. But he was being pressured by Mifune, who is fast, but not the fastest.. Hanzo is not blitzing anything here. Not if Satetsu puppet and Sasori are in a battle stance firing IS which he is unlikely to avoid.
And I'm pretty sure explosive tags were anime, not manga. And you are correct about Ibuse's strength lying through underground lurking. However, Sasori can simply use his IS as a platform to fly like Gaara uses his own sand magnetism to fly. That would nullify a threat from the bottom since he's protected with the Iron beneath him, while also heavily restricting Hanzo's ability to fight him with his Sycthe.
--his puppet body literally makes him immune hanzos poison whereas its clearly not the other way around when all he needs is one hit on Hanzo to take him out,
--once the third kazekage puppet is out, hanzo gets taken out by Iron Forest, as hes not evading its AOE nor is he preventing himself from getting hit especially when sasori can use more of his puppets to ensure that he gets hit
The Mifune whose sword broke in half did not use chakra to enhance his sword in that fight [
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Explosive tags are pretty broken, but I can't see Sasori losing to it as long as he can move around with ease, or simply use his Katon seal from a range to forcefully detonate the explosives outside his range. Moreover, he can fire his Iron Sand Projectiles at Hanzo to prevent him from keeping his hand on the floor and stop his tag summon altogether.
The sword being Chakra enhanced is based off when he clashed and slashed sasuke
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his katana wasn't shown to be different. It wasn't till the moment they clashed when his sword was infused with chakra. It's the same with a prime Mifune, he wouldn't use the chakra till the moment he needed to (one would assume ofcourse), but after his sword lost and he was badly injured he couldn't channel chakra. Hope that makes sense.
E' tags are indeed broken and I agree if Sasori had knowledge on the attack he could do what you stated, but fact of the matter is that he doesn't and wouldn't know what hit him till it was too late. Sasori's fighting stile is staying stationary and fighting from a distance. He doesn't "stay moving" around when fighting. That is a big no no with any Puppet user since they lack combat skills to enter close combat. And your scenerio is assuming he even gets a chance to do
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and attempt to summon the third Kazekage while Hanzo lays down and watch Sasori set up. He also will take time to set up the Iron sand out of the Kazekage then unleash it's attack. Again will Hanzo just lay down and watch him set up or will he fight like a real ninja?
Chiyo was said to be a perfect match up for Sasori. Hanzo is not a perfect matchup, nor does he know all of Sasori's moves from the get-go. And how does the Scythe deflect massive IS attacks? I don't recall his strength feats, pretty sure they are inexistent.
Hanzo doesn't have to be the perfect counter when he is elite fast! He has elite reflexes plus speed to match it. Dodging and avoiding Sasori's attacks will be childs play if Sasori doesnt figure out Hanzo is a speed demon. I never stated Hanzo would deflect iron sand. His scythe would be useless,keep that in mind. He dodges all iron sand attacks if not all the majority of them. And who said any thing about strength? Or you need strength to block or deflect attacks???? Where did you get that notion from??????
Sasori's IS bisects him, or Satetsu doll cuts it up like a joke with its fangs, while staying unaffected from any poison Ibuse has.
If it can hit him. And again who brought up poison? and Who said Ibuse would or could use poison and that's it????
Since when can everyone use Food cart destroyer? Pretty sure DB ascribes it to Toads. Not to mention, even if it is applicable to all summons, you'd have to prove Hanzo has knowledge of this jutsu and he can actually use it in battle. How does he cloud his vision? Everyone was seeing just fine in the poison cloud.. And restraining him with his chain? Not to mention even if there was a cloud from poison (there isn't) hanzo is no sensor and would be blinded to ISW. And no.. There's two people, Sasori and Satetsu, focus on only one and the other will kill you. So no restraining is happening here.
Food cart destroyer is nothing more then using your giant summon to crush an opponent from above. It is nothing spl Jman and Naruto both used it and they are not listed by the way. Hanzo here showed it being used to
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! You are over thinking it entirely. Who said Poison cloud would cloud sasori's vision?
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how big Ibuse mouth is compared to a Human. It is more then enough to swallow Sasori and at the same time detach chakra strings from his outside puppets. That is more then enough time to have ibuse crush him inside before he can summon another puppet, or at the very least if Sasori escapes Hanze blitz him and Dices him no diff. Sasori would never expect it or see it coming since he would have been blind in the darkness and never knew which direction Hanzo might come from.
You are just overrating Hanzo's speed here. I have yet to recall any speed feats of him. He was strong, sure. But he was being pressured by Mifune, who is fast, but not the fastest.. Hanzo is not blitzing anything here. Not if Satetsu puppet and Sasori are in a battle stance firing IS which he is unlikely to avoid.
How am I overrating him when he matched Mifune who is faster then almost any base ninja! The dude can slice you faster then you can clap your hands together. Only an idiot would think that is slow. From your house where you are now, clap your hands as fast as you can.. Did you see how fast that was and keep in mind his hands were already about to preform a jutsu. There have only been a few ninjas who can move faster then hand seals, Sasukes Susanoo Arrow is one of them. Whether you think he is "not very fast" or not doesn't matter since it is manga fact he is with hype and Feats.
And again you are assuming he even gets the chance to summon the 3rd. and assume Sasori has full knowledge while hanzo will do nothing but watch sasori's every move.
And I'm pretty sure explosive tags were anime, not manga. And you are correct about Ibuse's strength lying through underground lurking. However, Sasori can simply use his IS as a platform to fly like Gaara uses his own sand magnetism to fly. That would nullify a threat from the bottom since he's protected with the Iron beneath him, while also heavily restricting Hanzo's ability to fight him with his Sycthe.
Databook 4 translation:
Took a look at Hanzo's entry. It mostly talks about his will and how he lost and regained it. It also talks about how "Poison gave birth to Amegakuru's great hero". And the only really interesting thing is it may be calling him, "Amegakur's greatest of all", but i'm not sure if it's that or "Leader", since 長 can mean both (I think it might mean both, as in he was the leader and was the greatest Amegakur Shinobi). It also talks about how he uses poisoned weapons, plural, so he probably poisoned his Kunai and stuff as well as his scythe.
Nah, it's a Manga feat. And I stated once Sasori goes air born (if he makes it that far) it becomes a stally battle and that's why I stated it goes either way. Especially since he can use
Sasori should take it mid to high diff presuming he starts off in Hiruko, because of Ibuse. People forget that there's a "transition time" when Sasori changes puppets from Hiruko to the 3rd Kazekage, so that can leave him a little vulnerable.
