Can't tell if serious or..
Minato wasn't even the point I was emphasising. My point is when Naruto was in locus A, Sasuke noticed him being at locus A from a far distance with his body turned around. Sasuke Shunshin'd to Naruto and reached him before Juubito could use his Gudo Dama. Sasuke comes in and stops the Gudo Dama attack being launched, and ALSO activates Susano and extends it upwards all the while Naruto is still at locus A. I don't see how a speed feat can get much better than this.
Sasuke moving faster than the Gudo Dama extended isn't some amazing ass speed feat that puts him a tier above his Hebi form in speed. When was the Gudo Dama even shown to extend super quick? Oh wait, never. Reaching Naruto while he's still in the air isn't an amazing ass speed feat that'd put him a tier above his Hebi form either. He was standing right in front of Naruto before Juubito tossed him and Gamakichi up into the air.
Lol, if you had been taking Minato into account, then it'd be something special, but since you aren't, it's nothing special enough to make me say War Arc Sasuke>>>Hebi Sasuke in speed.
When KCM Naruto dodged Ay's punch, Naruto moved about 5 meters and Raikage had already had stones flying around from his punch [
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including Naruto moving or Juubito being able to attack in time.
Juubito attacked with an extending Gudo Dama, unless you can show me the incredible speed feats of that, don't mention it because using it in comparison doesn't mean anything unless the things you are comparing it to are fast. Naruto moving? Also not a relevant comparison as he was in mid air, he couldn't move. Don't try and compare this to KCM Naruto's feat against Ay. Different people, different attacks, different speeds.
Nothing you say can downplay this speed feat.
There is no downplay, just you overrating his speed, as I expected.
All speed feats are done in a fast amount of time, similar to KCM's blitz on Kisame, he moved a quick distance quickly.
Crossing a distance quickly isn't even close to a legit reason to try and compare Sasuke's speed feats to people like BM Naruto or KCM Naruto's speeds.
Similarly to BM Naruto's saving of Hachibi, he moved a quick distance quickly.
I can show you plenty of people who move across distances quickly? Does that mean we call it an extraordinary speed feat? Obviously not.
So yes, Sasuke's speed feats is in fact a speed feat far superior to anything Hebi Sasuke has ever done. And yes again, Sasuke did reach Sakura first, no matter how much you want to downplay that feat [
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If you can show me KCM Naruto using Shunshin, and if you can show me them leaving at the same time, and then Sasuke arriving first, we can talk about Sasuke outspeeding Naruto. Until then, you're wrong.
It doesn't take a genius to figure out one 3T can be better than another 3T.. Jesus. Sasuke's 3T couldn't track Itachi's clone speed, yet Obito was fighting Naruto with a 3T as his only form of pre-cognition and perceiving his KCM and BM state without too much difficulty. All the while fighting Kakashi and Gai. Inb4 Rinnegan pre-cog.
You mean in the Genjtusu? Where Itachi had obstructed his vision with over a dozen crows? Yes, very legit example. Lol. I also like how your comparison forgets to account for the fact that different Sharingan users have different level reactions. I don't know where this. Obito would be able to keep up with faster people because his reactions are fast enough to let him do so, not because his Sharingan is magically better than Sasuke's when it comes to precognition.
Not to mention Obito was never tracking full speed KCM Naruto, full speed BM Naruto, or full speed Gai in any Gates that'd make tracking him a noteworthy feat. That's three fronts where your argument is completely obliterated.
It's crazy how "it doesn't take a genius to figure out one 3-T can have better pre cog than another 3-T", but I see no real, solid evidence from your side that begins to prove this point.
Uchiha capabilities seem to transcend as the Uchiha chakra becomes more powerful. Madara was the strongest Uchiha because his chakra was the most powerful. Kyuubi's first comment on Sasuke was his powerful chakra. Clearly, there's more to potent chakra than Susano. So his eyes are more powerful (thus can perceive better) and his techniques are overall stronger.
Yeah,
overall Uchiha capabilities. Not evidence for you to say that one ability is superior just because of potent chakra. No evidence=No argument, and that is exactly what's going on here. You claim potent chakra makes the Sharingan predict moves better, yet I see no evidence. Madara being the best because of his strong chakra, and strong chakra being for other things bar Susanoo isn't evidence to say that 3-Tomoe pre cog gets better with stronger chakra.
Hmm.. No. Receiving MS made Sasuke's chakra stronger. Receiving EMS made Sasuke's chakra even stronger as it incorporates Itachi's chakra as well. You have nothing going for you here, unless you can prove to me Hebi could do such a thing, he can't. Gonna play the same game you're playing m8.
@bold: Gonna provide some evidence for this claim? Or just more speculation?
I don't need anything, because nothing puts MS Sasuke above Hebi Sasuke in physical capabilities, or Kenjutsu Skill, thus there is no reason for me to have to prove that Hebi Sasuke has superior Ke
Relevance? Madara said it made his movements more fluid. It did not at all make his movements quicker. Fluid just means it is done smoothly, without any inconsistencies. So that point is moot. So I'll repeat, thinking Hebi Sasuke can do such a thing with more 'fluid' movements is naive. Inb4 pre-cog=speed, as that was somewhat insinuated in your post.
Lol....he performed how he did because of his EMS precog. That is a
fact. Don't know why you are going on about this quickness nonsense because I never mentioned speed. I mentioned his performance against Madara, which is related to his Kenjutsu Skill, as you used this scuffle as evidence for his better Kenjutsu skill, which doesn't work since he had something enhancing his performance that he doesn't have here. His EMS.
-Madara saw his movements and his performance.
-Said it was because of his Choku Tomoe Mangekyo, EMS.
-Thus he performed that well because of his EMS.
It doesn't get any simpler than that.
False analogy. Sasuke could not effectively see KN0 Naruto with 2 Tomoe. With 3T he could see everything, so his chances obviously spiked. This is not applicable to the Madara situation as Sasuke's 3T can most definitely perceive Madara's defensive backward movement.
Nope. It's not a false analogy. Sasuke's precognition increased, thus his ability to strike his target has increased, thus his performance in CQC increased. Same thing happening here.
Yes, everything implies that, including the Madara fight, the Mifune scuffle, the fact that he could now increase the range of his sword with Raiton as shown vs Juubi clones, etc. Everything suggests Sasuke's superior sword skills.
Bold is Sasuke using Chidori through his Katana. Not only does that not have ANYTHING to do with Kenjutsu Skills, (In what universe does chakra streaming have anything to do with Kenjutsu Skill? Lol) but that is something he's always been able to do.
Sasuke blocking Mifune means he has better sword skills than his Hebi version? Even though there is literally no reason that'd be the case? Lol, what kind of joke argument is that? No reason why his Kenjutsu skill would have increased from the Itachi fight to the Kage Summit. No reason why his physical abilities would increase either.
Nothing suggests he has superior sword skills. Nothing at all.
That is assuming Hebi Sasuke can land any of his Ninjutsu on Sasuke.
Considering they are going to be in close combat with each other, and the fact that War Arc Sasuke isn't so much faster than Hebi Sasuke, that he'd dance around him, Hebi should have no issue hitting him.
That is also assuming Hebi Sasuke can perceive war arc Sasuke's speed.
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Should I even be taking you seriously at this point?
Durability is barely a factor here, if Sasuke's Raiton Kusanagi hits, it pierces; badly. Sasuke blitzes. Black Chidori isn't hitting anything,
-I've seen no speed feat that'd let War Arc Sasuke blitz Hebi Sasuke.
-Durability is a factor if he uses moves other than Chidori.
-Black Chidori tears through any offensive move War Arc Sasuke has, and kills him.
because war arc Sasuke simply outplays CM2 Sasuke in CQC.
He doesn't though, that's the thing. There is negligible difference between them in CQC, except Hebi Sasuke has the Curse Mark powering him up.
Better speed is cutting it, for sure.
If we go with the ridiculously wanked speed you are giving him, yeah it'd be enough. If we go with manga feats, then no, it's not enough.
