Best Clan/Family and Best KKG

[Joseph Gomes]

Rinnegan says no.

Rinnegan is a KKG? I don't think so

 

[BLAZE]

Uchihas imo

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Many people actually do. Uchihas heavily relied on the Senju's power to advance with their goals. As far as usefulness and Darwinism go, Senju's bloodline prevails in the end. I like Uchihas and Sharingan but the body always prevailed.

By feats Uchiha had far more influence in the manga. Senju clan had only two notable members

And many borrows/steals powers in NV. That's their ninja way. What Danzo achieved was Danzo's success. We can't give Danzo's achievement to Senju/Uchiha

 

[AlphaScythian]

Sure, but Hashirama... The rest is silence.

Shisui one shots

OT: Uchiha.

 

[Gagster]

Rinnegan is a KKG? I don't think so

Are you joking?

 

[Romy9]

By feats Uchiha had far more influence in the manga. Senju clan had only two notable members

And many borrows/steals powers in NV. That's their ninja way. What Danzo achieved was Danzo's success. We can't give Danzo's achievement to Senju/Uchiha

The feats don't matter here. What matters is the potential of a single clan or KKG. The Senju clan also spawned Naruto, let's not forget that.

Sure we can. Danzo thought that the Uchiha clan's power was useful and would get him results. That's why he used it.

Shisui one shots

Doubt it.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Shisui one shots

OT: Uchiha.

It's interesting that apart from Hashirama, no Senju has any counter to Uchiha techniques like Tsukuyomi or Kotoamatsukami. Most of Tobirama's techniques were copied by ordinary ninja like Minato/Orochimaru who don't even belong to any clan

How does Senju be the superior clan when only 1 member has KKG? Whereas 6 Uchiha in the manga have shown have MS

 

[Romy9]

How does Senju be the superior clan when only 1 member has KKG? Whereas 6 Uchiha in the manga have shown have MS

The Senju clan are descendants of the younger brother with powerful body. That alone is their KKG, if you didn't understand that. Hashirama's Mokuton is something even more superior.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

The feats don't matter here. What matters is the potential of a single clan or KKG. The Senju clan also spawned Naruto, let's not forget that.

Sure we can. Danzo thought that the Uchiha clan's power was useful and would get him results. That's why he used it.



Doubt it.

Senju clan didn't spawn Naruto. Naruto was spawned by Uzumaki. Naruto being distant relative to Senju doesn't make him a senju. Just as Hashirama isn't an Uzumaki. Uzumaki have their unique traits like sealing jutsu which was their speciality.

 

[Romy9]

Senju clan didn't spawn Naruto. Naruto was spawned by Uzumaki. Naruto being distant relative to Senju doesn't make him a senju. Just as Hashirama isn't an Uzumaki. Uzumaki have their unique traits like sealing jutsu which was their speciality.

Distant relatives are bound by blood. Naruto does have a connection to Senju. That's not questionable here.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Are you joking?

Kekkei genkai are bloodline abilities. Rinnegan is only awakened if you have chakra of Asura and Indra

 

[Romy9]

Kekkei genkai are bloodline abilities. Rinnegan is only awakened if you have chakra of Asura and Indra

That's incorrect. You have to have the cells of Uchiha and Senjuu to awaken the Rinnegan. As evidenced by Madara. So in actuality, it is a KKG. The imperfection of the blood through the descendants caused Rinnegan to disappear.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Senju. I understand the fapping for the eyes, but at the end of the day, the powerful body takes it.

She keeps telling me to make eye contact but i'd rather fap to her body than eyes.I understand bro,Senju>Uchiha.

 

[Char Aznable]

Distant relatives are bound by blood. Naruto does have a connection to Senju. That's not questionable here.

That and Naruto is Hashirama's transmigrant/reincarnation. Makes sense that Naruto would be tethered to the senju by some blood relation.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Distant relatives are bound by blood. Naruto does have a connection to Senju. That's not questionable here.

Naruto has connection to Otsutsuki as well. That doesn't make him an Otsutsuki

I don't think you understand what's meant by clan in NV. Uzumaki is a clan of their own. Uzumaki have their own heritage. A Canadian doesn't become british just because his ancestors used to live in UK hundreds of years ago. Uzumaki is an identity

 

[Romy9]

Naruto has connection to Otsutsuki as well. That doesn't make him an Otsutsuki

I don't think you understand what's meant by clan in NV. Uzumaki is a clan of their own. Uzumaki have their own heritage. A Canadian doesn't become british just because his ancestors used to live in UK hundreds of years ago. Uzumaki is an identity

Teuchi as well has a connection to Ootsutsuki but you don't see me making such ridiculous claims, now do you?

No, you don't understand what a relative is and a blood connection. Don't even wanna get into the gene debate.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

That's incorrect. You have to have the cells of Uchiha and Senjuu to awaken the Rinnegan. As evidenced by Madara. So in actuality, it is a KKG. The imperfection of the blood through the descendants caused Rinnegan to disappear.

Read the manga again. I think you missed some chapters.

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Senju+Uchiha DNA requirement was retconned by Asura+Indra chakra. You can't awaken rinnegan by having senju and Uchiha DNA

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Many people actually do. Uchihas heavily relied on the Senju's power to advance with their goals. As far as usefulness and Darwinism go, Senju's bloodline prevails in the end. I like Uchihas and Sharingan but the body always prevailed.

The Uchiha matched Senju.The MS was only unlocked by a few.

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And the Sharingan itself was only awakened by a few.

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They still matched the Senju,and their potential is better than there's.Hashirama was the only one with hard wood.

 

[Romy9]

Read the manga again. I think you missed some chapters.

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Senju+Uchiha DNA requirement was retconned by Asura+Indra chakra. You can't awaken rinnegan by having senju and Uchiha DNA

I'm reading correctly. You don't understand that's a metaphor of him and Hashirama. He literally bit Hashirama's bit of skin and infused it in himself. It's a matter of genetics. You have to elaborate some stuff instead of literally grasping it.

The Uchiha matched Senju.The MS was only unlocked by a few.

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And the Sharingan itself was only awakened by a few.

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They still matched the Senju,and their potential is better than there's.Hashirama was the only one with hard wood.

I don't know what the argument for awakening Sharingan is, but the Uchihas were always losing against Senjuu in Hashirama's and Tobirama's primes. They were in a better shape.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Doubt it.

It's interesting that apart from Hashirama, no Senju has any counter to Uchiha techniques like Tsukuyomi or Kotoamatsukami. Most of Tobirama's techniques were copied by ordinary ninja like Minato/Orochimaru who don't even belong to any clan

How does Senju be the superior clan when only 1 member has KKG? Whereas 6 Uchiha in the manga have shown have MS

Did i miss a page where hashirama can oppose 1 shot OP genjutsu MS user himself couldnt?