Hinata's haters are still underestimating Hyuga Hinata.

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Yeah,like stalking Naruto.



And saying his name atleast twice everytime she had panel time with dialogue.

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You pretty much summed up her entire character,back story etc in one sentence.

nope i only explained her love.......
 

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Hinata is a legendary Konioichi. Her eyes sparkle more brighter than the sun. No man can hate such a beauty!
 
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you could give up your dreams for the person you admire the most , its normal.and no hinata >hanabi if we go by feats, naruto was her motivation , the only person that she could relate to and that caused her love him

nope if your comrade is dead you should at least show him some type of respect sign or something , and him choosing IT as place to go to showsyou that kisame didnt understand itachi's words, and whats even more sad is neither of madara or obito gave a shit about kisame after his death

Let's go about it from this angle. Is this a good character:

Someone who is inspired by a loud, obnoxious brat who doesn't let others hold him down. And obsesses over him for years, not batting an eye at her own cousin who's obviously traumatized, has little to no closure with her sister or father and by the end of it all, the only different she has from when she started out is that she now is with the guy. She's exactly the same, maybe a little outspoken but really that's not much.

Kisame respected Deidara when he died. He thought well enough to think of Itachi in his own last moments. The respect and admiration he held for Itachi was high. Kisame not following Itachi's personal life style doesn't mean he spat on his memory. They're different people, and long before this Kisame committed to IT, that was his goal and a chance for him to find his place in this world. That was his "Becoming Hokage,".

Not having them sympathize over his death is irrelevant. It was a mutual understanding between Kisame and Obito, they shared a goal and were on positive terms it seemed, but obviously that's where the relationship between the two stopped.
 

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Hinata is a legendary Konioichi. Her eyes sparkle more brighter than the son. No man can hate such a beauty!

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What is there to hate about a character that doesn't offer much to be hated?
 

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Let's go about it from this angle. Is this a good character:

Someone who is inspired by a loud, obnoxious brat who doesn't let others hold him down. And obsesses over him for years, not batting an eye at her own cousin who's obviously traumatized, has little to no closure with her sister or father and by the end of it all, the only different she has from when she started out is that she now is with the guy. She's exactly the same, maybe a little outspoken but really that's not much.

Kisame respected Deidara when he died. He thought well enough to think of Itachi in his own last moments. The respect and admiration he held for Itachi was high. Kisame not following Itachi's personal life style doesn't mean he spat on his memory. They're different people, and long before this Kisame committed to IT, that was his goal and a chance for him to find his place in this world. That was his "Becoming Hokage,".

Not having them sympathize over his death is irrelevant. It was a mutual understanding between Kisame and Obito, they shared a goal and were on positive terms it seemed, but obviously that's where the relationship between the two stopped.

that cousin was the one who tried to break her and kill her,that father is the one who gave up on her , hanabi didnt really show up so we cant tell if they loved each other


i am talking about obito's respect for kisame
muntal understanding and sharing the same goal+ beimg a good character ? hinata also understood naruto and she had the same dream as him wy not speak about that?
 

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that cousin was the one who tried to break her and kill her,that father is the one who gave up on her , hanabi didnt really show up so we cant tell if they loved each other


i am talking about obito's respect for kisame
muntal understanding and sharing the same goal+ beimg a good character ? hinata also understood naruto and she had the same dream as him wy not speak about that?

Reread my posts, because you're being drawn to the weirdest parts.

Hinata had plot points such as those, yet they never were addressed. Instead whenever she was on screen, her time used was likely to remind us she loved Naruto. That is why she was a bad character. Her entire being revolved around Naruto. Take him out, and she's nothing.

No, that doesn't make Kisame a good character. Reread everything else in my previous few posts which explains why Kisame is a decent character. I am not saying he's the best, but Hell. He has somethings going for him.
 

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wrong, databook states that her first dream was to become the hokage but then she abandoned it that dream for the sake of naruto who wanted the same thing .hinata went from the hyuuga weakest member who was hated by other hyuuga members(due losing to hanabi )c5o one of the strongest and respected members in the hyuuga clan. and anyway what did he clan do to her ? naruto was a better family to her tan her whole family


nope,kisame was real ninja i give you that he believed his own ideology and died loyal.but saying that he changed through the years is kinda illogical k=, kisame was a puppet and he died like a puppet the man that he sacrificed himself to didn't even tell him about is true identity

Lol,you had to learn of Hinata's dream from a Databook rather than the manga which has featured her for 15 years? And to top it off,Hinata gave up her DREAM,for Naruto-Kun.


What we saw from Kisame from when he was first introduced was different from what we did in his end,which was shown years later.That was TheAncientCenturion's point. What we first saw from Kisame was a ruthless member of a terrorist organization,and in the end we see him as a Shinobi who was tired of the Shinobi worlds lies,who was so loyal that he would kill his teamates inorder to keep secret info about his country from going to the enemies hands.We saw that he was very loyal,he even sacraficed his own life so the enemy wouldn't find out his comrades plan. This is the epitome of self sacrifice,we haven't seen self sacrifice on a level this high since Itachi,who everyone loves.

As for Hinata - Naruto-Kun.As you said,she gave up her DREAM for Naruto-Kun,(which we found out from a databook/you having to tell us),Kisame never did,we found out his dream in the manga. To create a world with no lies.

Who was Hinata willing to sacrifice herself for? Naruto-kun,was her reasonings because she wanted to protect Konoha? No,she never mentioned that,it was all Naruto-Kun,a boy she was obsessebed with who never really even talked to her.Naruto-Kun>Village

Kisame on the other hand knew the Akatsuki for years.
 
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Lol,you had to learn of Hinata's dream from a Databook rather than the manga which has featured her for 15 years? And to top it off,Hinata gave up her DREAM,for Naruto-Kun.


What we saw from Kisame from when he was first introduced was different fro what we did in his end,which was shown years later.What we first saw from Kisame was a ruthless member of a terrorist organization,and in the end we see him as a Shinobi who was tired of the Shinobi worlds lies,who was so loyal that he would kill his teamates inorder to keep secret info about his country from going to the enemies hands.We saw that he was very loyal,he even sacraficed his own life so the enemy wouldn't find out his comrades plan. This is the epitome of self sacrifice,we haven't seen self sacrifice on a level this high since Itachi,who everyone loves.

As for Hinata - Naruto-Kun.As you said,she gave up her DREAM for Naruto-Kun,(which we found out from a databook/you having to tell us),Kisame never did,we found out his dream in the manga. To create a world with no lies.

Who was Hinata willing to sacrifice herself for? Naruto-kun,was her reasonings because she wanted to protect Konoha? No,she never mentioned that,it was all Naruto-Kun,a boy she was obsessebed with who never really even talked to her.Naruto-Kun>Village

Kisame on the other hand knew the Akatsuki for years.

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Underestimating? Are you sure you're using the right word here? It implies that we don't think she is strong, battle-wise... which is completely true.

She's weak. Nothing to underestimate, she's just not powerful, as simple as that.

If you meant anything else i wouldn't know... you literally have one sentence for a thread-opening post, very subtle.
 

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Reread my posts, because you're being drawn to the weirdest parts.

Hinata had plot points such as those, yet they never were addressed. Instead whenever she was on screen, her time used was likely to remind us she loved Naruto. That is why she was a bad character. Her entire being revolved around Naruto. Take him out, and she's nothing.

No, that doesn't make Kisame a good character. Reread everything else in my previous few posts which explains why Kisame is a decent character. I am not saying he's the best, but Hell. He has somethings going for him.

she too naruto centeric because shes a side character not much screen tine to explain her other goals and motivation , kishi spends hat little screen time she has on building her relationship with naruto

you said that part to add on kisame's character aresnel and i did the same
 

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she too naruto centeric because shes a side character not much screen tine to explain her other goals and motivation , kishi spends hat little screen time she has on building her relationship with naruto

you said that part to add on kisame's character aresnel and i did the same

No, I said that Tobi not caring on a personal level doesn't matter. I never said it added to him.

So, she doesn't have much development and relies entirely on Naruto to even have things to say? Kisame is a side character, too. Hell, Itach technically is as well. Kabuto sure as Hell is one, and he's one of the better written characters in the manga. Side character excuse doesn't cut it. Her relationship with Naruto was never really built, either. Naruto never responded to her feelings, he had a few moments where he might of appreciated her, or so it seemed. But they really hardly ever even talked.
 

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No, I said that Tobi not caring on a personal level doesn't matter. I never said it added to him.

So, she doesn't have much development and relies entirely on Naruto to even have things to say? Kisame is a side character, too. Hell, Itach technically is as well. Kabuto sure as Hell is one, and he's one of the better written characters in the manga. Side character excuse doesn't cut it. Her relationship with Naruto was never really built, either. Naruto never responded to her feelings, he had a few moments where he might of appreciated her, or so it seemed. But they really hardly ever even talked.

Lol The guys your mentioning were villians. So of course they will get more development.
 
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