[VS] Base Minato vs Tsunade&Sakura

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Doesn't change the fact that a marked opponent means that an FTG user can instantly thrust an attack into said opponent. When minato teleported to bee, he stopped/paused, when he got behind bee, he was still talking, saying "I can't fail". At that point, minato didn't even know bee had a kunai at his stomach. If he had just insta stabbed him like he did to Obito, killer bees anticipation wouldn't have mattered, since you can't possibly strike faster than an FTG user that has marked you.

Too bad Minato doesn't strike at the same speed he teleports.

In both cases it was anticipation. He clearly knew that Minato teleports to his kunai. Even the fodder knew that once seeing his Kunai and not minato. His tentacle was already in motion when minato teleported back. It's impossible for his tentacle movement speed to be superior to that of ay's or minato's.

I can give you another example if you'd like.

Ay and Minato weren't moving; that's number one. Ay was on air after trying to blitz Minato, so was the latter after teleporting on his back. It was during that second Bee had moved. So yes, Bee's tentacle can move faster than Minato can strike. [ ] The highlight already showed Minato had his hand prepared to attack. And it doesn't matter if his tentacle was in motion whether before or after Minato teleported; the point is Bee can predict Minato's movements and intercept them.

Bee was just guessing the movements of minato and hence prepared it before minato used FTG

Yes, he was just guessing and relied on luck. :rolleyes:
 

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What the heck kind of response is that?

There are already a couple different examples of a marked oppoenent being insta-hit (depending on the intent of the FTG user). Like it's already been established for the millionth time, minato wasn't going to hurt or kill bee, it was just a thread/warning shot against Ay's blind sided attack. The point is whether or not bee anticipated or reacted, he couldn't have prevented being stabbed if his oppoenent wanted to.

But I'll wait for you excuse this time.
 

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What the heck kind of response is that?

There are already a couple different examples of a marked oppoenent being insta-hit (depending on the intent of the FTG user). Like it's already been established for the millionth time, minato wasn't going to hurt or kill bee, it was just a thread/warning shot against Ay's blind sided attack. The point is whether or not bee anticipated or reacted, he couldn't have prevented being stabbed if his oppoenent wanted to.

But I'll wait for you excuse this time.

@Bold:
Not sure where it was said that Minato had no killing intent agains't kumo nin's.
This was during the 3rd great war where the village's were fighting amongst each other.

When Minato got the chance to strike Ei he was going for the kill for B to intercept.
This gave away his identity and basically the secret weapon of Kumo. To top it off, a jin who has some form of control over its host is not something to be taken lightly, especially in a war when these guys are your enemies. Doubt Minato casually brushed off and didn't see bee as a threat, an enemy who is a host who can control its tailed beast.

Fact that he teleported to his blind spot, hand a kunai to his head and said i won't fail kinda makes it hard to believe that if he got the chance (without bee anticipating), he wouldn't have taken it, especially given the situation they were in.

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Yes no killing intent, read the manga. Blaze releases post is nonsense, as he ignores all that minato said

- yes it was war, but minatos orders were to retreat (at this point, minato no longer had any killing intent towards A or B)
- Minato praises Bee, as he's impressed with how Bee acts like a true ninja and person, depite being the 8 tails Jin (Bee, probably reminded him of kushina, so minato sympathized with him)
-Minato then tells A that the next time they meet, that they'd be putting the title of kage on the line. Meaning minato planned on meeting them again. Does that sound like someone who is blood thirsty to kill his opponents to you?
- He tells A that he has a fine family. So why would minato try to slaughter his brother right after saying that?
- Minato tells Ay that he needs to find out what is most important to his brother (Minato speaking in future tense). How would A find that out, if Bee is dead?
- Biggest hint of all. Minato already marked Bee, yet he was retreating, that means minato left him alone and had no intent or reason to fight either of them. He straight up walked away. Yet some of you still think he had killing intent Lol, how laughable.
- Ay tries to sucker punch minato from behind, so Minato retaliates by teleporting to Bee, as a warning/threat to Ay. It's just that simple.

You scan of tobirama teleporting to Juubito is useless. It's the same exact thing as Minato against Bee. He spoke first, he didn't strike instantly, even though he could have. And your second scan is stupid as well, because those are 2 giant Kurama avaters, holding a giant heavy rasengan. Yet you think their striking speed is the same as a small base human LOOOL. And what's even more pathetic is that you think showing a Juubi jin in comparison to Bee is even worthy a comparison, desperate much?

With intent, this happens:
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2.
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4. Bonus example - (Minato instantly strikes/saves kakashi)

without full intent, this happens:
1. (this is the same thing he did to Bee, notice the pause)

If he wanted to kill Bee, it would've been this:
1.

You don't know how silly you look trying to compare Bee to Juubito. What kind of fail logic U_U
 
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Yes no killing intent, read the manga. Blaze releases post is nonsense, as he ignores all that minato said

- yes it was war, but minatos orders were to retreat (at this point, minato no longer had any killing intent towards A or B)
- Minato praises Bee, as he's impressed with how Bee acts like a true ninja and person, depite being the 8 tails Jin (Bee, probably reminded him of kushina, so minato sympathized with him)
-Minato then tells A that the next time they meet, that they'd be putting the title of kage on the line. Meaning minato planned on meeting them again. Does that sound like someone who is blood thirsty to kill his opponents to you?
- He tells A that he has a fine family. So why would minato try to slaughter his brother right after saying that?
- Minato tells Ay that he needs to find out what is most important to his brother (Minato speaking in future tense). How would A find that out, if Bee is dead?
- Biggest hint of all. Minato already marked Bee, yet he was retreating, that means minato left him alone and had no intent or reason to fight either of them. He straight up walked away. Yet some of you still think he had killing intent Lol, how laughable.
- Ay tries to sucker punch minato from behind, so Minato retaliates by teleporting to Bee, as a warning/threat to Ay. It's just that simple.

You scan of tobirama teleporting to Juubito is useless. It's the same exact thing as Minato against Bee. He spoke first, he didn't strike instantly, even though he could have. And your second scan is stupid as well, because those are 2 giant Kurama avaters, holding a giant heavy rasengan. Yet you think their striking speed is the same as a small base human LOOOL. And what's even more pathetic is that you think showing a Juubi jin in comparison to Bee is even worthy a comparison, desperate much?

With intent, this happens:
1.
2.
3.
4. Bonus example - (Minato instantly strikes/saves kakashi)

without full intent, this happens:
1. (this is the same thing he did to Bee, notice the pause)

If he wanted to kill Bee, it would've been this:
1.

You don't know how silly you look trying to compare Bee to Juubito. What kind of fail logic U_U

Tobirama's striking speed is superior To Minato's.
 

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-sigh-, Most kage level ninja can react to Minato's striking speed even if he teleports behind them.. <<< Tsunade's striking speed has shown to be far superior to any striking speed Minato has shown..
 

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Tobirama's striking speed is superior To Minato's.

your fan fiction doesn't even relate to my post. got nothing useful to contribute, then please don't bother replying to my posts

<<< Tsunade's striking speed has shown to be far superior to any striking speed Minato has shown..
This is why you aren't worth replying to.
 

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your fan fiction doesn't even relate to my post. got nothing useful to contribute, then please don't bother replying to my posts


This is why you aren't worth replying to.

gtfo Minato's d*ck dude.. There are ninja who have shown superior speed to Minato when it comes to combat.

Tsunade:

Take's Naruto's money without anyone noticing:


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Strikes Shizune easily, and shizune only notices after she was struck:

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STrikes Orochimaru, and he couldn't do shit when he was lookin right at her:

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Please don't overhype Minato more than he already is........ its really annoying when people get impressed from flashy techniques and think no one can counter them..What an example?

Most Jounin ninja destroy Part 1 Neji in speed <<< Yet fapboys say his speed is god level, and can take on Kage level ninja.. what?

Like I said , before Minato can take on them in 1 vs 1 and win .. as far 2 vs 1 goes.. no.. he can't.. Sorry. Especially when dealing with Tsunade who is an expert in combat and furthermore has experience with tactics, not only that, but is intelligent.
 
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Minato was just portrayed as the fastest character who ever lived. Period.
 

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Wow, Tsunade supporters do it again. Nice to know that Tsunade is going to pull off something Obito and Ay couldn't.
 

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Wow, Tsunade supporters do it again. Nice to know that Tsunade is going to pull off something Obito and Ay couldn't.

- Obito has inferior speed in striking with 1 MS.. and already destroyed Minato as a jinchuriki.

- Ay would've destroyed Minato also, were it not for him teleporting behind B..


I can easily say Minato fans wank him again, and think he can take on Multiple Kage level ninja. What you said would've been good if it were Tsunade vs Minato, but this isn't. This is Tsunade and Sakura vs Minato.
 

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pls post more KH. Your posts are truly amusing. I've never seen a bigger joke than you.
 

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pls post more KH. Your posts are truly amusing. I've never seen a bigger joke than you.

And I have never a seen a bigger d*ck rider than you.... What Minato isn't killing in wars right? Despite killing countless without even thinking... rofl. I'm not the one here making excuses.
 

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And I have never a seen a bigger d*ck rider than you.... What Minato isn't killing in wars right? Despite killing countless without even thinking... rofl. I'm not the one here making excuses.

yeah ok.XD

go look up the definition of retreat.
 

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Tsunade is truly a miracle worker. Counters Tsukuyomi, sheds her skin off with her scalpel and grows a new against Amaterasu, is nearly as fast as Ay and reacts to Hiraishin.

Amazing.

Though I miss the mathematical calculations.
 

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yeah ok.XD

go look up the definition of retreat.

You should really look it up. If not I can post it for you:

retreat: withdraw from enemy forces as a result of their superior power or after a defeat.

Yea going to attack people is really retreating now ain't it. =]

Tsunade is truly a miracle worker. Counters Tsukuyomi, sheds her skin off with her scalpel and grows a new against Amaterasu, is nearly as fast as Ay and reacts to Hiraishin.

Amazing.

Though I miss the mathematical calculations.

@Bold, nice fan-fiction, but has nothing to do with the thread, nor the points made for Tsunade and Sakura.

But Minato is the god who instant kill any Kage level ninja he wants.. Despite never even being put above Hiruzen in the manga.

You guys are bloody smart man.
 

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KingHashirama would like to cocksuck through the whole Senju family.
Hmm sure if thats what you think.. but sadly i acknowledge whats in the manga.. And don't get impressed by flashy techniques, and actually analyze the situations that those feats happen in, and how they occur.

I don't go saying "Tobirama blitzes".. Furthermore, I guess everyone says Kaguya spanks every single person in the manga, is a Kaguya vagina licker right? Because not like its the truth.


I simply have the brain to acknowledge that there are people in the manga who don't have FTG or shunshin on Minato or Tobirama's level.. but are stronger than them. Why?? Because they can react to them, and have a brain they can use in fights..


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do you actually read the manga? Are you dyslexic? Did you miss the retreat orders minato got? Or are you just that ignorant.

calls me fanboy, you're the biggest senju fapping tard on this base. And the sad part is, your're totally stupid. You spout utter nonsense in all your posts.
Minato never got orders.. they were pregivin orders.. and he disobeyed them.. come again.

"I'm one of the biggest senju fapping tard on this base"..Yup really my fault that Senju happen to be stronger than most of the characters.. You sound hurt man.. I'm sorry that Senju are superior to some of your favorite characters.. should complain to Kishimoto not me..

And what part of "IF this was a 1 vs 1, i would say Minato takes this.. but its not..." came off as a senju wanker? please let me know

I'm not the one who here thinks Minato is some instant killing god.
 
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You're crying too much bro. Did I offend you or something?

Anyway, I'll let Blaze Release (if he did or logged on) replies to the pile of shit you wrote, but I will address few stuff. Since it was a war era, Minato had no reasons to hold back, just like how he didn't when slaughtering +50 Shinobi. Given the fact he didn't hesitate to kill Ay in this , it shows he had intent to kill them. He already knew from that moment Ay and Bee were brothers. Bee reminded Minato of Kushina? It's nice to know Kushina can control portion of Kurama's power and she is a danger to Minato and the village, like Bee is. No, child, he simply acknowledged Bee's potential. Doesn't mean he was holding back. If he actually wanted to retreat or didn't want to kill Ay or Bee, he would have no reason to teleport right to where he marked Bee minutes ago, as well as prepare an attack in conjunction. He had all the marks around the battlefield, but he teleported to where Bee was. He didn't see Bee as a danger, especially he could control Hachibi's power.

Bee reacted and bested Minato's full speed. Plain and simple. Get that through your fanboy head.

You hit your head when you were a kid? Is that why it's hard to understand the message? I used Juubi Jinchuuriki as an example of being marked, doesn't result to KO. The body is marked, but the teleporter can teleport around the radius of the mark. [ ]

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He teleports to the marking, but after teleporting, the speed is dependent on how fast he can strike. But since he has poor striking-speed, Bee/Juubito/Madara can all react to him.
 

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gtfo Minato's d*ck dude.. There are ninja who have shown superior speed to Minato when it comes to combat.

Tsunade:

Take's Naruto's money without anyone noticing:


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Strikes Shizune easily, and shizune only notices after she was struck:

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STrikes Orochimaru, and he couldn't do shit when he was lookin right at her:

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Hashirama performing multiple seals and making in mere 1-2 seconds.

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Please don't overhype Minato more than he already is........ its really annoying when people get impressed from flashy techniques and think no one can counter them..What an example?

Most Jounin ninja destroy Part 1 Neji in speed <<< Yet fapboys say his speed is god level, and can take on Kage level ninja.. what?

Like I said , before Minato can take on them in 1 vs 1 and win .. as far 2 vs 1 goes.. no.. he can't.. Sorry. Especially when dealing with Tsunade who is an expert in combat and furthermore has experience with tactics, not only that, but is intelligent.

A. Tsunade handling an unskilled, 12 year old fodder Naruto isn't impressive at all. If that's part of your evidence on Tsunade's striking speed, I'd suggest you give up this charade right now.

B. And since when was Shizune an expert in speed? Since when did she have reflexes on the level of Obito and Ay?

C. Oh, a sick Orochimaru who was only standing a couple of ft away. Nice.

D. Minato showed similar handseal speed [ ], but the fact his primary jutsu doesn't rely on speed just shows how much emphasis is put on his speed as a whole. Striking and all sorts.

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Quite frankly, you're just plain wrong on this one.

Minato blitzed Ay here [ ]
And Obito here [ ]

Yet we're somehow supposed to believe Tsunade's fodder feats are to proportionate to that of Minato's? Who blitzed two of the fastest in the manga? It's quite funny. Even if I were to give you the benefit of the doubt, and say her striking speed was superior to Minato's, how does she even hit him? When he dodged attacks like Kamui from point blank range WITH NO INTEL and Ay's lightning straight from no more than 20 meters with no direct gauge of how fast Ay actually is.

Again, all these Tsunade supporters are backed into a corner. All you can do is say how Minato is overrated or cannot win, but you cannot actually say how they beat him.
 
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