[Discussion] Pica VS Gaunlet

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S1 - Fights w/o healing
S2 - Heals after each fight

1- CP9
Location - Dressrosa
Intel - Manga

2- Crocodile
Location - A location with Sand and Rocks
Intel - Manga

3- Moriha w Oars
Location - Thriller Bark
Intel - Manga

4- Ace
Location - Ace vs Teach
Intel - Manga

5- YYnM Teach
Location - Marineford
Intel - Manga
 

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s1 makes its to corc imo
s2 ace imo
 

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Stops at croc-kun.
 

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I personally dnt think he would get passed all of the CP9 at once ....
But if he does think croc would beat him both senerio's
 

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Pica stops at Moriah imo. Cp9 as a whole would lose to a pacifista. So pica easily beats them. Crocodile beating pica in that area is debatable though.
 

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Stops at Crocodile in both scenarios.


Crocodile turns him into dust
 

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He probably stops at Crocodile, both scenarios. Really depends on the terrain's composition and such. v_v
 

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Crocodile can turn stone into sand and render Pica powerless
 

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I don't think that he can take all CP9 members at the same time.

With heals:
1 - loses
2 - wins with around high diff.
3 - wins with mid to high diff.
4 - loses with mid diff at best,
5 - loses with low to mid diff.
 

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Stops at CP9. I doubt the can take them all.
 

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How on earth does CP9 pose a threat to Pica?
CP9<Pre-Skip Strawhats - Extreme Diff
Pre-Skip Strawhats>Pacifista -Extreme Diff
CP9>=Pacifista -Extreme Diff

Baby 5>>>Pacifista-Low Diff
Pica>>>Baby 5-Low-mid Diff

Pica>>>>>>CP9 - Neg Diff
 

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How on earth does CP9 pose a threat to Pica?
CP9<Pre-Skip Strawhats - Extreme Diff
Pre-Skip Strawhats>Pacifista -Extreme Diff
CP9>=Pacifista -Extreme Diff

Baby 5>>>Pacifista-Low Diff
Pica>>>Baby 5-Low-mid Diff

Pica>>>>>>CP9 - Neg Diff

What does baby 5 have to do with it, why would you even bring her into the equation, only makes it more confusing.

I can see what people are saying about cp9, they all have super speed and strength and they all work together. Besides the three power houses Lucci, kaku and Jyabura they also have two tricky devil fruit users, Kalifa with her foam fuit and Blueno with the door fruit. Basically Kalifa can touch the statue and turn the stone useless making pica unable to control the stone anymore and Blueno can make an air door travel through the giant to find pica inside and get him out of there without risking to take a hit.

After his giant is down it's a 7 vs 1 fight.
 

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What does baby 5 have to do with it, why would you even bring her into the equation, only makes it more confusing.

I can see what people are saying about cp9, they all have super speed and strength and they all work together. Besides the three power houses Lucci, kaku and Jyabura they also have two tricky devil fruit users, Kalifa with her foam fuit and Blueno with the door fruit. Basically Kalifa can touch the statue and turn the stone useless making pica unable to control the stone anymore and Blueno can make an air door travel through the giant to find pica inside and get him out of there without risking to take a hit.

After his giant is down it's a 7 vs 1 fight.

Baby 5 stated that her attacks would've destroyed a Pacifista.
Baby 5 is in the PICA army meaning Pica>Baby 5
Pica>>>Pacifista.

CP9 can't handle 1 Pacifista meaning they get destroyed by the person who casually destroys them.

Not even Chinjao could defeat Pica and he gave current Luffy quite a fight. And we all know Chinjao would destroy pre-skip SH's.

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Kalifa needs to scale the giant with her hands. No way can she do that it's not a simple touch like you said it would be.
Blueno simply taking and executive and throwing him out there? Not happening he gets destroyed if he wants to even get near Pica.

CP9 gets rekt by Pica in every way
 

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Baby 5 stated that her attacks would've destroyed a Pacifista.
Baby 5 is in the PICA army meaning Pica>Baby 5
Pica>>>Pacifista.

CP9 can't handle 1 Pacifista meaning they get destroyed by the person who casually destroys them.

Not even Chinjao could defeat Pica and he gave current Luffy quite a fight. And we all know Chinjao would destroy pre-skip SH's.

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Kalifa needs to scale the giant with her hands. No way can she do that it's not a simple touch like you said it would be.
Blueno simply taking and executive and throwing him out there? Not happening he gets destroyed if he wants to even get near Pica.

CP9 gets rekt by Pica in every way

lmao to this bs.
 

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lmao to this bs.

How is it BS when all of the pre skip SHs defeated CP9 with the exception of Robin? The pre skip SHs as a team including Robin and Brook who was new at the time defeated a pacifista with extreme difficulty. CP9 isn't doing that. And pica would one shot a pacifista. So why would CP9 be any different? Your the one whos sprouting BS.
 
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Care to explain what's so bs about it?

Its your use of ABC Logic. Because Tier wise Pica should be above them, they have no chance.


The problem is, CP-9 has two DF's that are useful in countering Pica's rocks (Blueno and Kalifa). They also have Geppo which makes them not reliant on fighting on the ground only.... countering Pica's greatest advantage over opponents (being able to surround and crush them).

Pica has not shown to have haki. Therefore, he has nothing to suggest he could tank a rankyaku or shigan. His only advantage is large scale earth manipulation which gets countered by Air Door.... Blueno just lets everyone in and they instantly dodge. And Kalifa can make the rock smooth and virtually useless.

It's a matter of ability match ups. For example, you could have someone who has an unstoppable laser eye devil fruit and great Observation haki.... making him capable of hitting anyone at any distance or speed. Yet if he's frail as hell... Nico Robin could clutch him in a one shot.

Pica only has DC/AoE. The problem is his AoE is notably slow, and comes from rocks... which CP-9 can get away from via Blueno/Geppo, or lessen the effectiveness via Kalifa.



I'd still give the win to Pica because its only a matter of time before they wear out from Geppo... and plausibly Blueno's power. And as of now they have no good way to legitimately land a blow on Pica without him moving rock to rock. Unless the Door fruit could isolate him. But I find that event unlikely.

Thus, Pica wins, but it'll take him a while to pull it off.
 
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Its your use of ABC Logic. Because Tier wise Pica should be above them, they have no chance.


The problem is, CP-9 has two DF's that are useful in countering Pica's rocks (Blueno and Kalifa). They also have Geppo which makes them not reliant on fighting on the ground only.... countering Pica's greatest advantage over opponents (being able to surround and crush them).

Pica has not shown to have haki. Therefore, he has nothing to suggest he could tank a rankyaku or shigan. His only advantage is large scale earth manipulation which gets countered by Air Door.... Blueno just lets everyone in and they instantly dodge. And Kalifa can make the rock smooth and virtually useless.

It's a matter of ability match ups. For example, you could have someone who has an unstoppable laser eye devil fruit and great Observation haki.... making him capable of hitting anyone at any distance or speed. Yet if he's frail as hell... Nico Robin could clutch him in a one shot.

Pica only has DC/AoE. The problem is his AoE is notably slow, and comes from rocks... which CP-9 can get away from via Blueno/Geppo, or lessen the effectiveness via Kalifa.

Wow you bring up some good points that I never thought about. I would say he no diffs but he low diffs only due to matchup.
 
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Wow you bring up some good points that I never thought about.

Well thanks. I'd still give Pica the win. His assimilation speed is virtually instantaneous. So he ultimately will win IMO.... but he's not going to mop the floor with them in just a few seconds.

CP-9 doesn't have a whole lot to catch Pica out of the rock....



Anyhow, he stops at Crocodile. Sand is simply divided up rock. Since both of them can control it, that basically leaves a Pica who so far has low feats in combat and no Haki against Crocodile who has intangibility.
 
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