[VS] Hiruzen vs Sasori

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No, it only works when the attack landed like every scenario when IS attached to something.



They are solid but they also have to directly land on the attack for sand to be attached.



He already had the chakra control to retrieve them back or have them stay. Theres literally nothing from stopping him from doing that. Your example doesn't disprove anything as Sasori found no use of control the puppets he attached sand to.

I don't understand what you're trying to say.... ? The IS attack that I showed you landed yet nothing was done about it?

He never retrieved the puppets so i don't know where you're getting that from.

Enma Blocking the IS = Sakura Blocking it its not a puppet so your scenario would only work if IS completely encased it anyways
 

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Hiruzen loses both scenarios. People should stop posting his Edo Tensai feats. They are not credible here. When he died, he could barely make two clones and all the Anbu standing outside the barrier were calling him a fool along with Orochimaru:



His Doton and Katon attacks were borderline pitiful, something easily countered by Tobirama's little suiton and his poor Doton mudslide barely managed to block it:





He couldn't even hit two mindless obscenely watered down Edos, who handed his ass to him on a gold platter in CQC:




He neither has the chakra, nor the stamina to make create techniques that span that size. Nor is he making 4 Kage Bushins, when 2 nearly killed him. Sasori has the speed and the numbers to take him out. All he has to do is bring out the Third kazekage and use world model. It's over for him then. He is neither dodging it, nor is Enma doing much here, given that as soon as it was restrained, it was down, for good and the staff reverted back to its original form:




Which means if the staff is hit, pinned, Enma is done. Hiruzen could not even overpower Orochimaru, despite Enma intervening to take a swipe at Orochaimru:

It is pretty easy for Sasori to avoid enma, as he can simply switch puppet bodies. He is not moving to avoid Iron Sand pellet for which Chiyo had to use a chakra barrier. He isn't evading about a hundred puppets for which Chiyo had to summon her own to fight against. He is defeated easily in both scenarios.

An Antidote won't help him given that it only works for three minutes and there is not a weapon in Sasori's arsenal that isn't poisoned. Even Iron Sand is. S1 Sasori wins low difference, S2 he takes it mid difference may be, and I am being generous here.
 
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Hiruzen loses both scenarios. People should stop posting his Edo Tensai feats. They are not credible here. When he died, he could barely make two clones and all the Anbu standing outside the barrier were calling him a fool along with Orochimaru:



His Doton and Katon attacks were borderline pitiful, something easily countered by Tobirama's little suiton and his poor Doton mudslide barely managed to block it:





He could even hit to mindless Edos, who handed his ass to him in CQC:




He neither has the chakra, nor the stamina to make create techniques that span that size. Nor is he making 4 Kage Bushins, when 2 nearly killed him. Sasori has the speed and the numbers to take him out. All he has to do is bring out the Third kazekage and use world model. It's over for him then. He is neither dodging it, nor is Enma doing much here, given that as soon as it was restrained, it was down, for good and the staff reverted back to its original form:




Which means if the staff is hit, pinned, Enma is done. Hiruzen could not even overpower Orochimaru, despite Enma intervening to take a swipe at Orochaimru:

It is pretty easy for Sasori to avoid enma, as he can simply switch puppet bodies. He is not moving to avoid Iron Sand pellet for which Chiyo had to use a chakra barrier. He isn't evading about a hundred puppets for which Chiyo had to summon her own to fight against. He is defeated easily in both scenarios.

An Antidote won't help him given that it only works for three minutes and there is not a weapon in Sasori's arsenal that isn't poisoned. Even Iron Sand is. S1 Sasori wins low difference, S2 he takes it mid difference may be, and I am being generous here.

edo feats are to be counted. he can make it. how would enma get restrained by 3rd kazekage?
 

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I don't understand what you're trying to say.... ? The IS attack that I showed you landed yet nothing was done about it?

He never retrieved the puppets so i don't know where you're getting that from.

Enma Blocking the IS = Sakura Blocking it its not a puppet so your scenario would only work if IS completely encased it anyways

You didn't show me anything of IS landing and nothing has done about it. You only showed me Sakura punching it and nothing happen to her. Re post the scan if you are talking about something else.

Didn't say he did. I said his Iron Sand. Retrieving his IS can also = retrieved whatever the IS is attached to, along with it. Basic magnet knowledge.

Sakura never blocked IS...
 

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edo feats are to be counted. he can make it. how would enma get restrained by 3rd kazekage?

Sorry, but they can be and should be. When we can CLEARLY see that his alive feats are borderline laughable by comparison. No one is denying that he can use all those elemental attacks. But the scale and Bushin feats were vastly, and I mean vastly superior in his Edo Form. He gets slaughtered by Sasori.

World model either pins Enma's monkey ass, or pelleting kills him. Case closed.
 
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You didn't show me anything of IS landing and nothing has done about it. You only showed me Sakura punching it and nothing happen to her. Re post the scan if you are talking about something else.

Didn't say he did. I said his Iron Sand. Retrieving his IS can also = retrieved whatever the IS is attached to, along with it. Basic magnet knowledge.

Sakura never blocked IS...

Bruh her glove touched the IS :| So why did it not go onto her glove?, No when he retrieved all the IS for ISWO The puppets did not magically float over to him? He can't keep them attached to something AND move it its just not happening bro basic magnet knowledge also means that he should have to opposite magnetic forces not just one lol but its Naruto bro
 
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