Forcing Beliefs on Kids....

[Sakura Michiko]

Forcing Beliefs on Kids....(Religious/Nonreligious ones)

It makes me cringe.Like when kids are saying "god told me to tell you..." or when some one claims and tell their kids they are agnostic/atheist/christian/ect. I don't really understand why some people push their beliefs on children.Like why not just leave them alone(as in not force it on them) and let them decide what they want to believe in when they get a certain age like maybe 12 or 13 during the Formal Operational Stage. I'm not saying everyone pushes stuff of their kids.I'm talk about the Christian,atheists, and anyone else who actually do this.I don't care how much prayers or whatever else you tell them at a certain age(0-11). They are probably agreeing with you because they don't understand what it means and heard you or someone else say it. Which deals with Preoperational and Concrete Operational Stages of thinking. Not trying to diss people's believes just saying don't you think it is selfish,inconsiderate, and indoctrinating by not giving them their own choice? Sure you can talk about it but when you are saying they have to do and belief this or that isn't that a problem? At least explain to them so they can understand your belief and probably other beliefs. Some people don't even do that. They just tell the kids they believe in something so the kid must also.

 

[The Dreamer]

So you want people to just let their kids think/do/act like they please with absolutely no knowledge of the world and not to meddle with them raising them since that's forcing something on them. What a great parent you'd be.

 

[Zealotic]

Stop forcing your beliefs on me!

 

[Sakura Michiko]

So you want people to just let their kids think/do/act like they please with absolutely no knowledge of the world and not to meddle with them raising them since that's forcing something on them. What a great parent you'd be.

No, I'm talking specifically about beliefs like religions and whatnot. I'm not going to force that on my kid. If my kid wants to talk about it we can but I'm not going to say you have to be this and do that. I'll let them choose. Even if some people taught their kids religious stuff at a certain age it can back fire. I remember when I was 12 I found out that not everyone was Christians. I had to seek the knowledge myself when I actually go to the age of understand certain logical things.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Well,it will continue to happen given the fact that,that is all people in organized religions can do since there not for the most part intelligent and mature enough to understand how ridiculous it all is.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

Well,it will continue to happen given the fact that,that is all people in organized religions can do since there not for the most part intelligent and mature enough to understand how ridiculous it all is.

I actually met some religious people that do not force these beliefs on their kids. My sociology teacher is one.He is really smart.But yea,thanks for understanding my post and realizing that I'm not telling people to not teach their kids about the world.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I actually met some religious people that do not force these beliefs on their kids. My sociology teacher is one.He is really smart.But yea,thanks for understanding my post and realizing that I'm not telling people to not teach their kids about the world.

People who believe in religion can be smart,but its the ones who were "taught" at an early age that make up the base of most religions.


That is generally because children are easier to sway.

Its not just religion its anything really.

 

[ANiMUS]

Re: Forcing Beliefs on Kids....(Religious/Nonreligious ones)

It makes me cringe.Like when kids are saying "god told me to tell you..." or when some one claims and tell their kids they are agnostic/atheist/christian/ect. I don't really understand why some people push their beliefs on children.Like why not just leave them alone and let them decide what they want to believe in when they get a certain age like maybe 12 or 13 during the Formal Operational Stage. I'm not saying everyone pushes stuff of their kids.I'm talk about the Christian,atheists, and anyone else who actually do this.I don't care how much prayers or whatever else you tell them at a certain age(0-11). They are probably agreeing with you because they don't understand what it means and heard you or someone else say it. Which deals with Preoperational and Concrete Operational Stages of thinking. Not trying to diss people's believes just saying don't you think it is selfish,inconsiderate, and indoctrinating by not giving them their own choice? Sure you can talk about it but when you are saying they have to do and belief this or that isn't that a problem?

What's wrong with teaching your child what u think is right? It's a parent's responsibility to bring up their children as best they can, I mean it's not like children raise themselves. If your child picks a different path in life later on its their decision.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

People who believe in religion can be smart,but its the ones who were "taught" at an early age that make up the base of most religions.


That is generally because children are easier to sway.

Its not just religion its anything really.

I was kind of taught it.Like I prayed with my mom but sometimes I forgot and she never fussed. She wasn't really strict on me about that.I was always interested in science and stuff that other kids I knew hated and know I'm not really Christian or religious anymore.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

Re: Forcing Beliefs on Kids....(Religious/Nonreligious ones)

What's wrong with teaching your child what u think is right? It's a parent's responsibility to bring up their children as best they can, I mean it's not like children raise themselves. If your child picks a different path in life later on its their decision.

So forcing religious and non religious beliefs are okay to you? I'm not even talking about "raising" kids. I'm talking about forcing them into something at an age were the probably don't understand the concept. Like I said,sure you can talk about it but why force it on them? Is that good parenting?

 

[Tennis Robot]

You really are good-hearted But things like this can't be blamed on individuals. It goes back to the way the parents themselves were raised, and their parents before them, etc. So don't be disgusted by it; sometimes people just don't understand what they are doing. Instead, help them understand

 

[ANiMUS]

Re: Forcing Beliefs on Kids....(Religious/Nonreligious ones)

So forcing religious and non religious beliefs are okay to you? I'm not even talking about "raising" kids. I'm talking about forcing them into something at an age were the probably don't understand the concept. Like I said,sure you can talk about it but why force it on them? Is that good parenting?

i have known four year olds that can completely explain bible scriptures :|

Children r a lot smarter than u give them credit for. It's your job as a parent to give them that understanding. U don't force your children to be mindless drones, but step by step u teach them easier concepts when they R young and more complicated concepts when they are older.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

You really are good-hearted But things like this can't be blamed on individuals. It goes back to the way the parents themselves were raised, and their parents before them, etc. So don't be disgusted by it; sometimes people just don't understand what they are doing. Instead, help them understand

That is true. One of my good friends told me that was indoctrination. Sometimes people think they are doing something good but they might be hurting the other person in the long run or not. I'm glad you understood. I think I confused some people here because they keep talking about raising kids and how I'm saying people should not raise them when I'm not actually saying that. All I'm saying is that isn't not good to force these certain beliefs on the kids and even so they probably don't understand the adult.The adult can talk about it but the kid should be able to decide at a certain age with out a problem.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

Re: Forcing Beliefs on Kids....(Religious/Nonreligious ones)

i have known four year olds that can completely explain bible scriptures :|

Children r a lot smarter than u give them credit for. It's your job as a parent to give them that understanding. U don't force your children to be mindless drones, but step by step u teach them easier concepts when they R young and more complicated concepts when they are older.

I'm not saying they are stupid.I'm going off the piaget's theory of cognitive development. Did someone teach this kid this or tell them word for word? I also put the word probably in bold italics in my post for a reason.You should go back and look at that. But you also didn't answer me when I asked if forcing something on a kid and telling them they have to do and believe in something is right.

 

[Tennis Robot]

That is true. One of my good friends told me that was indoctrination. Sometimes people think they are doing something good but they might be hurting the other person in the long run or not. I'm glad you understood. I think I confused some people here because they keep talking about raising kids and how I'm saying people should not raise them when I'm not actually saying that. All I'm saying is that isn't not good to force these certain beliefs on the kids and even so they probably don't understand the adult.The adult can talk about it but the kid should be able to decide at a certain age with out a problem.

I think the important thing is that we raise children to understand why they should believe what we tell them. This gives them the tools to make decisions for themselves when they become independent.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

I think the important thing is that we raise children to understand why they should believe what we tell them. This gives them the tools to make decisions for themselves when they become independent.

It really depends. I would tell my kid to be agnostic because I am. If it is brought up during a conversation I would try to explain it but I wouldn't be like"Mommy is agnostic thus you are too."

 

[Tennis Robot]

It really depends. I would tell my kid to be agnostic because I am. If it is brought up during a conversation I would try to explain it but I wouldn't be like"Mommy is agnostic thus you are too."

I mean to explain to them why you believe what you do, so they can at least understand your reasoning. Not just telling them what you believe and using the mere fact that you believe it as your reason for them to do so as well.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

I mean to explain to them why you believe what you do, so they can at least understand your reasoning. Not just telling them what you believe and using the mere fact that you believe it as your reason for them to do so as well.

This^^^ I agree. I know a lot of people who don't explain to their kids why they believe in something and they just force in on them. That is really my main problem.

 

[ANiMUS]

Re: Forcing Beliefs on Kids....(Religious/Nonreligious ones)

I'm not saying they are stupid.I'm going off the piaget's theory of cognitive development. Did someone teach this kid this or tell them word for word? I also put the word probably in bold italics in my post for a reason.You should go back and look at that. But you also didn't answer me when I asked if forcing something on a kid and telling them they have to do and believe in something is right.

If your child is just going along with what u say then u aren't teaching them. They are just following u. If u want to instill your belief in your child then u need to inspire them to ask questions. Teach them in a way where they can build a sense of reasoning on their own.

 

[Sakura Michiko]

Re: Forcing Beliefs on Kids....(Religious/Nonreligious ones)

If your child is just going along with what u say then u aren't teaching them. They are just following u. If u want to instill your belief in your child then u need to inspire them to ask questions. Teach them in a way where they can build a sense of reasoning on their own.

Yea, that's what I mean. I know a lot of people who tell their kids stuff and the kids follow and don't ask questions. One of my cousins told me she though it was "bad" to question her belief and god. I explained to her that it was okay to do so. She is like 17.