Shameful retcon

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Hates people who talk about destiny. Becomes part of destiny himself. Being transmigrant of Ashura is not to bad now, eh?

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Neji was right all along.
 

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What's shameful is your lack of understanding. Naruto's issue wasn't destiny, but Neji's former notion that you can't change your destiny if isn't favorable. Tell me, what part of Naruto's destiny was unfavorable?
 

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Well Indra and Ashura and their transmigrants were "destined" to fight each other generation after generation but Naruto and Sasuke broke the cycle at the end
 

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Well not really retcon . Yes Neji was right but Naruto did suffer a lot though . Just shows Naruto having Destiny had to start from ground zero to get acknowledgment .

Well he never killed Sasuke . He changed the destiny didn't he .
 

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part 1 was ripped off, his real writing was part 2, and we know how that went
 
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You must be an idiot if you thought that a MC of a shonen battle manga was gonna be a nobody.
 

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we dont know what the toad was going to say at the end of his sentence. for all we know it was that they would make up. it seems like everything that happened good and bad was meant to for savior narutos sake.
 

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we dont know what the toad was going to say at the end of his sentence. for all we know it was that they would make up. it seems like everything that happened good and bad was meant to for savior narutos sake.

He would have told he was sage's younger Son Transmigrant . He was the one who told Hago about Blue eyed boy who will Show the Tailed beast new path and Save the World .
 

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Most of the Indra Ashura reincarnates before Hashi- Maddy were fodders. Manga fact.
In other words just being a reincarnation of someone doesn't make u strong automatically.
The prophecy was about Naruto having the power to either save the world or become its destroyer....so nothing was certain. If Naruto just lazed around like Kiba, he was never going to become what he really became.
Also Naruto finally changed the destiny by establishing peace with Indra.
/ Thread. U_U
Stop drinking too much Clorox. :rolleyes:
 

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Love how OP can't even respond to any of this.
 

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What's shameful is your lack of understanding. Naruto's issue wasn't destiny, but Neji's former notion that you can't change your destiny if isn't favorable. Tell me, what part of Naruto's destiny was unfavorable?

You must be an idiot if you thought that a MC of a shonen battle manga was gonna be a nobody.

Retcon is a retcon. Only a narutard will deny coz Kishi's D tastes too good for them
 

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Oh look he did with a lack of intelligence. Why don't you explain how it's a retcon?
 

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Oh look he did with a lack of intelligence. Why don't you explain how it's a retcon?

Because both scans make naruto part of the very thing naruto denied. It's a retcon because the story changed its plot and started over with prophecy, ignoring Naruto's earlier statement.
 

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Retcon is a retcon. Only a narutard will deny coz Kishi's D tastes too good for them

Are you seriously calling someone a Narutard in a Naruto forum where you are a member?
 

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Are you seriously calling someone a Narutard in a Naruto forum where you are a member?

Yes, a Narutard is a blind Naruto fan who fails to identify errors of the series. They are the same as fanatics

Narutards make normal Naruto fans look bad because of their fanaticism
 

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Because both scans make naruto part of the very thing naruto denied. It's a retcon because the story changed its plot and started over with prophecy, ignoring Naruto's earlier statement.

The first case is Naruto saying that the idea that one cannot change their destiny if they so choose is a load of crap. Naruto wasn't saying destiny is a load of crap, but that if someone wanted to change their destiny, they could. Show me a scan of Naruto saying he didn't want this destiny as the child of prophecy and a transmigrant and expressing a desire to change it, or saying that the concept of destiny as a whole is crap?
 

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What's shameful is your lack of understanding. Naruto's issue wasn't destiny, but Neji's former notion that you can't change your destiny if isn't favorable. Tell me, what part of Naruto's destiny was unfavorable?

Fighting Sasuke.

Well Indra and Ashura and their transmigrants were "destined" to fight each other generation after generation but Naruto and Sasuke broke the cycle at the end

It was never said that they were "destined" to fight for generations. But it was stated that Naruto would begin peace to the world. So it was "destined" to be stopped by Naruto.
 
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The first case is Naruto saying that the idea that one cannot change their destiny if they so choose is a load of crap. Naruto wasn't saying destiny is a load of crap, but that if someone wanted to change their destiny, they could. Show me a scan of Naruto saying he didn't want this destiny as the child of prophecy and a transmigrant and expressing a desire to change it, or saying that the concept of destiny as a whole is crap?

Naruto can change destiny, huh? Can he change himself from not being transmigrant of Asura? Could he change his fate when he fought Sasuke at the end? Neji said destiny can't be changed. And that's what happened. THe destiny being good or bad doesn't matter

Clearly Kishimoto changed his theme in part 2. I don't wish to spam all the scans where neji and naruto chat, or where the toads speak about destiny. We know it's a retcon. Hard work was the main theme of Naruto in part 1, Naruto becoming transmigrant of Asura changed that by quite a bit.

Of course, obsession can cloud people's judgement and make them ignorant...
 

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Fighting Sasuke.



It was never said that they were "destined" to fight for generations. It was stated that Naruto would begin peace to the world. So it was "destined" to be stopped by Naruto.

Naruto wanted to fight Sasuke though because he saw that as his best shot of being able to save him. Like I said, show me where Naruto clearly wanted to change his destiny of being a transmigrant and being a child of prophecy?
 
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