Yeah Luffy would most likely defeat Doffy, although I'd prefer Law to defeat him. Anyways, I think Luffy can push Doffy to mid-diff. in a 1v1 fight, not high-diff. Of course my opinion on this whole topic can change once we see the actual fight.
[Discussion] How far would Zoro push Doflamingo ?
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dont know iam not going to make any assumption until all the fights end cause the perspective can change after watching a chapter but iam not going to hold my breath either cause doflamingo and luffy are going to show alot most likely while zoro propably is not going to show any thing can be counted as a decent feat cause oda seems to not bother himself with zoro`s matchs these days
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.... Same as sanji if not worse ... Sanji Atleast was able to fight in the air and keep up with doffy in terms of speed tho doffy was faster..
Zoro is a sitting duck Cuz he's slower then sanji ...
Zoro is a sitting duck Cuz he's slower then sanji ...
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Just as far as Sanji did...
Basically no where my friends... Fight would go like this DD traps Zoro blades of in strings rendering them useless strings enter Zoro body then he make shim commit suicide...
Basically no where my friends... Fight would go like this DD traps Zoro blades of in strings rendering them useless strings enter Zoro body then he make shim commit suicide...
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If M3 without intel...
Luffy (low - mid diff)
Zoro (low diff)
Sanji (low diff)
If M3 with intel...
Luffy (high - very high diff) ... better than Law
Zoro (mid - high diff)
Sanji (mid diff)
Luffy (low - mid diff)
Zoro (low diff)
Sanji (low diff)
If M3 with intel...
Luffy (high - very high diff) ... better than Law
Zoro (mid - high diff)
Sanji (mid diff)
Don't know about ML, but at NF only the Zoro fans say otherwise (lolExtravlad) and for your statement no he's getting low diff'ed just like how Clone Doffy Low diffed luffy. Only way for Luffy to defeat Doffy is by either the damage Law has done or Big Mom/Kaidou. Doffy's hype is too great to be simply defeated by Luffy.
Crocodile Low diffs Zoro
Enel Low diffs Zoro
Lucci Low diffs Zoro
Moria Low diffs Zoro
See the pattern? If Luffy high diffs the main boss, Zoro's getting Low diff'ed by him. Only exception here is Hody which he was completely horrific. Having only pushed Luffy to low diff by fighting under water.
He can do notihing, He's not pulling anything better than Law or Luffy.
Clearly didn't read the latest chapter. I'd suggest you to get updated.
If Zoro has rubber body then he's not beating Zoro.
Zoro can push him to mid dif.
I don't even want to talk about him.hmm
Apart from Lucci, every opponent of Luffy was far stronger than him at the time of their battle and Luffy won those battles only because of BS advantages. So, you can't use them as a back up to justify your arguments.
Btw,Hody fought Luffy on Noah.
Clearly didn't read the latest chapter. I'd suggest you to get updated.
If Zoro knew his weakness like Luffy then Croc ain't beating him with Low Dif.
If Zoro has rubber body then he's not beating Zoro.
Zoro can push him to mid dif.
I don't even want to talk about him.hmm
Apart from Lucci, every opponent of Luffy was far stronger than him at the time of their battle and Luffy won those battles only because of BS advantages. So, you can't use them as a back up to justify your arguments.
Btw,Hody fought Luffy on Noah.
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You're bias ... you said earlier "Only way for Luffy to defeat Doffy is by either the damage Law has done ...", and latter you said Law "still got low diff'ed". How Law at the same time got low diffed and can give proper damage to Doffy that can make favor to Luffy ?:yeah:
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I'd like to say that I just made this thread to see what people think. I am no Zoro fanboy whatsoever v_v
And it's quite the contrary my friend. Doffy is one of my favourite characters in One Piece as it is. I just wanted to see the members' opinion on this v_v
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Well no one has yet shown their real stuff vs Doffy save maybe for Law(though he has the stamina drain n dudes I got shot in the gut like 15m ago excuses) so since here we r speculating what Zoro's best vs Doffy wld b I will say mid diff. Zoro has ranged attacks which aren't like luffy's that require his person(body) to make contact with the opponent(coming into Doffy's area of influence) n the speed other pple been using to dodge n parry Doffy's attacks isn't above what I expect he is capable of.
Like Roronoa Zoro said, gets updated. The clone got one shoted by a low-mid level attack from Luffy. The only reason Luffy even struggles yet is because he doesn't want to hit Bellamy. When the Bellamy matter will be resolved, people will be singing a different tune, i guarantee it.
You'll see by yourself then. Law is done for already. Who do you think will defeat him?
Crocodile low diffed Luffy as well twice because he couldn't hit a logia and lacked a lot of knowledge. Under these circumstances Zoro would lose easily yes, but put Zoro in the same place as Luffy(in a 3rd fight, with water, knowledge and all the advantages) and i guarantee you Zoro would win as well(well discounting the poison). The poison was the only thing that made the third fight even a match when you know how dominating Luffy was in that battle
Luffy and Zoro were closer in power than you think. Before the Enel battle, Luffy clashed with Wiper in a battle that ended up in a stalemate and multiple injuries on both side. Same Wiper clashed equally with Zoro on multiple occasions and Zoro ended up defeating the strongest priest. The thing around Enel is different though. If Luffy wasn't made of Rubber(Enel's natural enemy), he would have lost easily as well. When Luffy noticed that Zoro lost he couldn't believe it. He said how could something like this happen when YOU were here? That sentence alone says everything. What allowed Luffy to win when Zoro couldn't is something called match-up advantage. Even Oda himself said that later in an SBS that normally, Enel was levels apart Luffy during that saga and Luffy was only lucky of being made of rubber
Only reasonable part although i think Zoro could have pushed him to mid(high) difficulty. Luffy clearly seperated himself from Zoro during that saga but that was mainly because of the power-up of gears(something Luffy didn't have before). He decided to do all what he could to become stronger(even using a technique sacrificing his lifespan) after losing to Kuzan. However, Zoro wasn't that far apart. What people sorely mistake is that the douriki were representing the fighting strength of the opponents, not Zoro's/Luffy's/Sanji's. While Lucci had close to double the fighting strength of Kaku, Luffy was close to lose against Lucci when Zoro defeated Kaku much more easily. When the power-up of Asura(trippling his potential as a swordsman) came, it was a one shot even but i think he wasn't controlling Asura well during that period in time, so yes Lucci would have won in the end, but not as easily as you make it out to be
Did Luffy even fight base Moria? Because if you're referring to base Moria, i'm not sure what you mean here and both Oz and Asgard Moria's fighting strength was greater than Luffy's as well(although Asgard mode was a self-destructive mode)
The only opponent Luffy defeated fair and square(and by fair and square i mean strength-wise and not a natural advantage or circonstance like Luffy had with Crocodile/Enel) that Zoro couldn't so far is Lucci and that difference in strength happened because Luffy decided to use a technique that sacrificed his lifespan to become stronger. The importance of gears dimished with time however
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He would, just wait...and be patient. Luffy will show us something new about CoC.