6 Huge examples of Kishi nerfing JJ Madara

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Madara was hit by hirudora, looks like he lost control over mokujin after that.

The wood dragon's head was still destroyed. The wood dragon was defeated.

Madara couldn't bind gyuki because of hirudora, the wood dragon was destroyed before then.
 

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The wood dragon's head was still destroyed. The wood dragon was defeated.

Madara couldn't bind gyuki because of hirudora, the wood dragon was destroyed before then.

anyway that was normal madara sage mode + JJ power would make his mokuton too OP
 

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The wood dragon's head was still destroyed. The wood dragon was defeated.

Madara couldn't bind gyuki because of hirudora, the wood dragon was destroyed before then.

Nothing looks destroyed there, it has turned into forest due to absorbed yang, BM was totally annihilated, but it seems as if naruto managed to escape in the end as he wasnt in contact with dragon any longer.
 

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The reason Madara got taken out by BZ was because Kishi needed to introduce Kaguya and he knew if the fight with Madara dragged on Naruto and Sasukee would be too exhausted to fight her and so there would be no fight.
 

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His Mokuton would be too OP! Do you forget that Divide Jukai Kutan was planet lvl and Kekei Mora jutsu stated by the DB. Image other Mokuton jutsus. Also his PS would too OP and he also lost way early his Gudoma. He could also use the sword of nabukono like Obito but I believe that it would be way more powerful. Limbo is aready OP but with jutsus it would be too OP. What I woanted to see was a PS at this state with Gudoma!
 

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To be fair, Kaguya literally had access to every jutsu available and was said to be stronger than Madara, yet she lost even more pathetically.
 

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No Juubi's jinchuriki has been able to showcase all their power.

They were always restricted because they "had a plan" or they got stupidly over confident.
 

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He was too powerful everyone. Hence why Masashi Kishimoto removed him.

With his Rinnegan's full power, he could create 5 Limbo that each cannot be seen or sensed by non-Rikudou Senjutsu or Rinnegan wielder. And they cannot be hurt without Rikudou's Chakra either. Each Limbo can act as defence and offence position, making sure Madara doesn't get harmed. And in case if he was, he would simply switches with the Limbo to save him the damage. And as shown, Limbo cannot be killed as they are in another dimensional plane; only way is to seal them off with powerful Fuin. Aside the fact Limbo is so OP, he has the 6 Paths abilities. Preta Path to render all Ninjutsu based-Chakra useless. Human Path to instantly kill off anyone in physical contact. Asura Path and its rockets at the hands of the original wielder, possessor of Rikudou's full amounts of Chakra, and Juubi's Chakra as well, would potentially destroy islands. Deva Path to manipulate the forces of gravity; simply levitate anyone he likes, or pushes away titanic proportion of earth, given he's Juubi's Jinchuuriki, the only one aside Hagoromo to use the full power of Rinnegan. An example was his Chibaku Tensei, which he refers as ''raindrop''. And if he needed to end the match quickly, he could activate his Rinne Sharingan and use Infinite Tsukuyomi, which only Rinnegan can counter.

His Six Paths Senjutsu is highly above Naruto's, since Madara's originates from stronger source of Rikudou Chakra and stronger Senjutsu (Hashirama's + Juubi's). Naruto alone could blitz the likes of Kaguya, so imagine Madara who is faster would do. His reflexes and reactions allowed him to keep up with 8th Gate Gai, who could literally distort space/time physically, which theoretically no one could reach to such speed. To put it all simple, Taijutsu and Ninjutsu is all useless to Madara.

Add the fact he could combine Juubi and Perfect Susanoo, very much like he did with Kurama, you have infinite destructible power. Sasuke's PS enhanced by the Yin Chakra of Rikudou's, could do . Madara possess both , as well as Juubi's Chakra on top of it. In other words, Juubi could do , Naruto's & Sasuke's combined power could do ; multiple both AOE, and this is the power when Madara's Rikudou PS and Juubi's form fused together.

The only one I could see giving Madara a true fight, is Jinchuuriki Hagoromo.

Amazing Post. I Agree whit everything in this post. +rep
 

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Doesn't matter, still got soloed by a plant. I love how you madara fans continue to ignore that fact.
 

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7. Never used preta path
8. Didn't use limbo against gai
 

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Doesn't matter, still got soloed by a plant. I love how you madara fans continue to ignore that fact.

you're just ignorant.
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where you think all the chakra came from? who you think use infinite tsukuyomi?

i love how madara haters still ignore how nerfed he was.
 

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Exactly which is why he had to be taken down by plot and giving sauce and noodles free power ups.
 

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1. Fodder to God tiers like Naruto and Sasuke.
2. Nothing says he could have used it, as he didn't have the separate Bijuu's chakra. It wouldn't have amplified his Susano'o in the same way Sasuke's was.
3. Sasuke could just redirect it back at Madara with Amenotejikara.
4. Again, fodder to Naruto and Sasuke. BM Naruto was making easy work of Edo Madara's Mokuton. Rikudou Mode Naruto would annihilate whatever Mokuton he uses.
5. We already know they can only use Taijutsu, so this is a moot point. Them being invisible to only a select few people makes them OP enough.
6. Data book already proved that Madara's Rinne Sharingan was only for IT. He doesn't have enough chakra for Dimensional Shifting, so Kaguya is the only user of the technique.

1. as an edo (inferior body) 25 all used susanoo and how is it fodder if its 25 more rinne sharingan madara's?
2. he still has more rinnegans, more bijuu chakra, and more rikidou chakra than sasuke, along with six paths senjutsu.
3. and madara can fly away from it or absorb it with preta or tank it with gudo dama like juubito did
4. fodder? BM naruto couldn't handle a wood dragon from edo madara U_U a shinsuusenju dwarfed mountains, madara has more chakra, senjutsu, and rikidou chakra than hashirama his shinsuusenju would be the size of the v1 juubi if not v2.
5. agreed.
6. he does have enough chakra to perform it once or twice since he's kaguya's jin after all.
 

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you're just ignorant.
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where you think all the chakra came from? who you think use infinite tsukuyomi?

i love how madara haters still ignore how nerfed he was.

Pretty sure you're just trying to convince your self that he was "nerfed." Yeah I'm the ignorant one.
 

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Pretty sure you're just trying to convince your self that he was "nerfed." Yeah I'm the ignorant one.

he was restricted to talking and missed gudo damas.

glad we agree Lol
 

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Part 2 fights are BEYOND horrible. All main villains have been nerfed in a retarded fashion
 

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Honestly, the quality of kishi's writing severely reduced. I don't know of it's because of the rushed ending, or because of all the bs power ups.

Kishi likes to nerf characters in such unbelievable and illogical ways, in order to show off another character. And he doesn't even do it properly. All basic logic is throw put the window, things that a character could've easily done, kishi restricts it with plot. It's the most annoying thing in this manga.
 

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He was too powerful everyone. Hence why Masashi Kishimoto removed him.

With his Rinnegan's full power, he could create 5 Limbo that each cannot be seen or sensed by non-Rikudou Senjutsu or Rinnegan wielder. And they cannot be hurt without Rikudou's Chakra either. Each Limbo can act as defence and offence position, making sure Madara doesn't get harmed. And in case if he was, he would simply switches with the Limbo to save him the damage. And as shown, Limbo cannot be killed as they are in another dimensional plane; only way is to seal them off with powerful Fuin. Aside the fact Limbo is so OP, he has the 6 Paths abilities. Preta Path to render all Ninjutsu based-Chakra useless. Human Path to instantly kill off anyone in physical contact. Asura Path and its rockets at the hands of the original wielder, possessor of Rikudou's full amounts of Chakra, and Juubi's Chakra as well, would potentially destroy islands. Deva Path to manipulate the forces of gravity; simply levitate anyone he likes, or pushes away titanic proportion of earth, given he's Juubi's Jinchuuriki, the only one aside Hagoromo to use the full power of Rinnegan. An example was his Chibaku Tensei, which he refers as ''raindrop''. And if he needed to end the match quickly, he could activate his Rinne Sharingan and use Infinite Tsukuyomi, which only Rinnegan can counter.

His Six Paths Senjutsu is highly above Naruto's, since Madara's originates from stronger source of Rikudou Chakra and stronger Senjutsu (Hashirama's + Juubi's). Naruto alone could blitz the likes of Kaguya, so imagine Madara who is faster would do. His reflexes and reactions allowed him to keep up with 8th Gate Gai, who could literally distort space/time physically, which theoretically no one could reach to such speed. To put it all simple, Taijutsu and Ninjutsu is all useless to Madara.

Add the fact he could combine Juubi and Perfect Susanoo, very much like he did with Kurama, you have infinite destructible power. Sasuke's PS enhanced by the Yin Chakra of Rikudou's, could do . Madara possess both , as well as Juubi's Chakra on top of it. In other words, Juubi could do , Naruto's & Sasuke's combined power could do ; multiple both AOE, and this is the power when Madara's Rikudou PS and Juubi's form fused together.

The only one I could see giving Madara a true fight, is Jinchuuriki Hagoromo.

He removed him because he was too powerful but yet added a whole new way stronger villain? If anything madara was getting beat to easily so that's why he was removed. Naruto and sasuke are just to much.
 

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he was restricted to talking and missed gudo damas.

glad we agree Lol

Exactly how was he restricted? He was going at the same rate he always was ever since he became the juubi Jin. Naruto and sasuke are just to much for madara.
 
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