Kiba vs Neji

[TimothyTheTomato]

Intent: kill and humiliate
Both during war arcs
Would prefer detailed explanations

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Kiba wins.

First, all of Kiba's offensive jutsu are categorized as taijutsu; so Juken can't really counter it as if it were ninjutsu.

Rotation Fang

Inuzuka clan bequeathed number one Taijutsu. Jutsu user's Ninja dog rotates at high speed vertically, which becomes ones weapon for their offensive strike. Riding fast the body becomes two sharp bladed fangs (?...I think it means riding the ninja dog), the enemy is bisected by the blade.

Iinjū Kongō Henge — Santōrō

A super three headed wolf's ferocity is let loose when Human and Beast become one body!

Jutsu user and Jutsu user's Kage Bushin bodies, as well as the ninja dog literally become one body. "Jinjū Konbi Henge". The use of a "Kage Bushin no Jutsu" causes one more head to be added. Field of vision becomes vast, claws and fangs grow, It's offensive ability is 3 times that of "Soutou Rou (Double Head Wolf)". The third head is the Jutsu users control tower, to use the jutsu is EXTREMELY difficult.

To set loose three wild heads. To bite every obstacle that endagers ones friends into pieces!

Ooiga Gatenga

The enemy is cut down by a whirlwind created by the three head watch dog of hades (cerberus)!

A hidden Jutsu inherited from the Inuzuka clan, A Taijutsu used during war against a crowd of enemies. Kiba, Kiba's Kage Bushin, and Akaamaru Trikaya (three bodies of the buddha) become one, transform into a gigantic three headed dog. Ones physical condition improves resulting in ones speed going into high grear, rotation is then used to assault a group of enemies. Rotating parallel to the ground the range of the attack widens, in a moment many enemies are swallowed up. The power of the rotation's centrifugal force increases ones fangs (basically makes the attack stronger), enemy is painlessly bisected, It becomes possible to immediately overturn any difference in war potential based on numerical strength.

In proportion to the amount of Kagebushin the number of attacks increase, the power also doubles each time overwhelming the opponent

According to the DB, Cerberus is already x3 the strength of Double Wolf, which means Ooiga Gatenga is at least x3 the offensive potential of Wolf Fang, which put a huge dent through Orochimarus ultimate defense the Roshomon gate and ripped through a CM2 user. Now considering every Kage Bunshin effectively doubles Ooiga Gatenga's power; there is no way Neji's rotation or offensive techniques is going to hold up against a Taijutsu move with this amount of power.

 

[super yang]

Yeah, a dead-serious Neji Low diffs Kiba

the initial smoke screen bombs, a shadow clone & even Akamarus physical/human/jutsu R all meaning less & illusory before Nejis immediate precision. He literally walks right thru them & straight to Kiba for a brief schooling.

Or if Kiba goes for the full-power glory-shot Kill immediately, & Neji somehow fails to tactically pre-empt it, The Cerebrus get Kaiten'd

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[neosmith500]

Kiba wins.

First, all of Kiba's offensive jutsu are categorized as taijutsu; so Juken can't really counter it as if it were ninjutsu.
Cerberus is already x3 the strength of Double Wolf, which means Ooiga Gatenga is at least x3 the offensive potential of Wolf Fang, which put a huge dent through Orochimarus ultimate defense the Roshomon gate and ripped through a CM2 user

They both have a 4.5 in speed but neji has the better feats of reacting to characters/attacks far quicker than kiba at a younger age

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Meaning that his evasion in the war would easily be something to consider.

The rotation can parry the force of the juubies tail with absolute elegance without losing a step. Based on scaling a tail sweep from the juubi would more than dent a Roshomon gate.

Cerberus is a taijutsu move an it requires clones, kiba having only 2.5 in stamina would lose easily.

 

[neosmith500]

Intent: kill and humiliate
Both during war arcs
Would prefer detailed explanations

And yet you neglected to give a starting distance Lol
Neji wins neg diff, Kiba already knows not to get close

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He would get godstomped in CQC if he attempts this without fusion which would get one paneled by kaiten Lol

 

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They both have a 4.5 in speed but neji has the better feats of reacting to characters/attacks far quicker than kiba at a younger age

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Meaning that his evasion in the war would easily be something to consider.

The rotation can parry the force of the juubies tail with absolute elegance without losing a step. Based on scaling a tail sweep from the juubi would more than dent a Roshomon gate.

Cerberus is a taijutsu move an it requires clones, kiba having only 2.5 in stamina would lose easily.

They both have a 4.5 in speed if we don't consider the fact that Kiba uses the Shikyaku no Jutsu; which increases his speed, reflexes, and strength.

It took the combined efforts of Neji and Hiashi, who's rotation is superior to Nejis, to parry off the Jubis tail. Considering the fact that part one Kiba's inferior 2 headed wolf dented the Rashomon, war-arc Kiba who is stronger then his part one self with a technique alone that is said to be 3x stronger would do a whole lot more damage.

Well, I guess it's a good thing that Kiba has shown to carry and use soldier pills to aid him in battle.

And yet you neglected to give a starting distance Lol
Neji wins neg diff, Kiba already knows not to get close

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He would get godstomped in CQC if he attempts this without fusion which would get one paneled by kaiten Lol

I will agree that Kiba loses if he doesn't opt into using his most powerful techniques from the start, but Lol at Kaiten matching, let alone one shotting Kibas massive transformations. You have no proof displaying Neji's ability to match this amount of destructive power. Even if both stalemate like when Neji and Naruto clashed, the winner goes to whoever is most durable, which is Kiba.

 

[Draegod]

They both have a 4.5 in speed if we don't consider the fact that Kiba uses the Shikyaku no Jutsu; which increases his speed, reflexes, and strength.

It took the combined efforts of Neji and Hiashi, who's rotation is superior to Nejis, to parry off the Jubis tail. Considering the fact that part one Kiba's inferior 2 headed wolf dented the Rashomon, war-arc Kiba who is stronger then his part one self with a technique alone that is said to be 3x stronger would do a whole lot more damage.

Well, I guess it's a good thing that Kiba has shown to carry and use soldier pills to aid him in battle.



I will agree that Kiba loses if he doesn't opt into using his most powerful techniques from the start, but Lol at Kaiten matching, let alone one shotting Kibas massive transformations. You have no proof displaying Neji's ability to match this amount of destructive power. Even if both stalemate like when Neji and Naruto clashed, the winner goes to whoever is most durable, which is Kiba.

Lol kiba loses no matter what.

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

Going with Neji here.

Kiba's main tactics, like smoke screen and confusion with Akamaru clone are seen through with Byakugan.

Kiba can get no form of surprise attack.

 

[neosmith500]

They both have a 4.5 in speed if we don't consider the fact that Kiba uses the Shikyaku no Jutsu; which increases his speed, reflexes, and strength.

It took the combined efforts of Neji and Hiashi, who's rotation is superior

according to the 3rd databook neji already surpassed all members of hyuuga clan including hiashi at the start of p2 which means that by war arc,he had the stronger kaiten..Not one of them were phased by the juubi's sweep which would destroy blast rashomon gate neg diff.

You have no proof displaying Neji's ability to match this amount of destructive power. Even if both stalemate like when Neji and Naruto clashed, the winner goes to whoever is most durable, which is Kiba.

Katen with full revolution>>>Kaiten without, Its the same way the force of the juubi's tail sweep>>>CE KMC naruto's chakra charge Lol

Katen tanks and Neji spanks.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

according to the 3rd databook neji already surpassed all members of hyuuga clan including hiashi at the start of p2 which means that by war arc,he had the stronger kaiten..Not one of them were phased by the juubi's sweep which would destroy blast rashomon gate neg diff.



Katen with full revolution>>>Kaiten without, Its the same way the force of the juubi's tail sweep>>>CE KMC naruto's chakra charge Lol

Katen tanks and Neji spanks.

Lol, is that so?

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Doesn't mention anything in that sort. Manga doesn't support it either. Neji has the stronger Kaiten? Oh boy. Go ahead and explain to me why Neji couldn't

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while Hiashi didn't have that problem; while creating the larger Kaiten[

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]. Hiashi is a whole other league ahead of Neji.

Lol. 5 Rashomon were able to change the trajectory of a village busting attack. 3 Rashomon were able to defend Orochimaru from a charged up TBB. Part One Kiba puts a nice dent through one Rashomon and this guy thinks Kaiten tanks, based on absolutely nothing; despite the fact Kiba is much stronger then his part one self and now possesses a attack that is 3x stronger then the two headed wolf attack, which is around 6x stronger then the necessary force to put a huge dent in one Rashomon.

And I forgot to mention the fact that Kiba can leave saliva all over the ground to easily mess up Neji's rotation [

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@ Draegod, based on the arguments provided for Neji so far? Nah.

 

[neosmith500]

Go ahead and explain to me why Neji couldn't spin fast enough while Hiashi didn't have that problem; while creating the larger Kaiten

Both kaitens used against the juubi were the same size an both were unphased by the sweep an were able to parry the giant much to the acknowledgment of kishi,"He splendidly evades the Juubi’s attack using the Hyuuga’s parry technique!!"

Hiashi not bein seen to hav trouble with the spears only shows that he has more proficiency with the technique, not that his could parry attacks leagues above wat neji can.

3 Rashomon gates got destroyed by 4tail TBB
A weaker juubi was able to flick a TBB from a stronger 8tails an casually slap away the strongest bijuu's

A tail sweep from a stronger juubi would sweep 5 rashomon with ease yet both kaitens stood ground.

Kiba's intelligence is even lower than genin neji so his only hope is cerberrus which u cant prove can penetrate kaiten while kaiten can parry any physical attack by any bijuu.

 

[neosmith500]

Part One Kiba puts a nice dent through one Rashomon and this guy thinks Kaiten tanks, based on absolutely nothing; despite the fact Kiba is much stronger then his part one self

Kiba never really increased much in the strength department from P1 only his ninjutsu prowes got increased while his intelligence is really a massive disadvantage to someone like neji tho u already agreed he gets godstomped in CQC without fusion.

A TBB from the hachibi would eradicate those 3 rashomon.
A finger flick from the weakest juubi would play domino with rashomon as it did hachibi's TBB an kurama.

Kishi stated that neji was able to successfully parry the sweep of a much stronger juubi.

In terms of scaling and physical prowes of the juubi kaiten shits on cerberus.
4tailed naruto caused a massive shockwave clearing away a huge portion of the forest with only a hand slap.

Juubi flicked a controled kurama and hachibi with ease yet failed to sweep away two small marbles Lol

 

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Against 1 tbb from 4 tailed Naruto, Orochimaru's triple rashomon failed:

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While a tbb from Killer Bee get flicked away by a single finger of juubi:

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A kaiten can match (or even push back) half of said tentacle's power:

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Fang over fang/headed wolves are easily dealt by kaiten. Tracking Kiba's speed won't be as hard either since Neji's eyes could track 5th gate Lee in part 1. Neji's stamina is higher according to DB, so he can outlast with his defense. Intelligence goes to certain person for obvious reasons and smoke bombs/traps are useless for another obvious reasons. I know the chars were severely weaker back then but Naruto who had a seal on stomach which troubled his chakra control and already had poor chakra control could evade Kiba's fang over fangs with shushin. Neji who have shown type of chakra control even hard for jounins at part 1 and much faster on foot can possibly match or outdo Kiba's attacking speed (Even if we go by equal scaling for said characters).

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[Rimitri Drascalov]

Since Kiba has no feats and logic reasoning to be 1/3993th of Madara's power, and Madara's chakra is tiers above as feats show, Neji beats him comfortably. Let alone KCC Neji, who not even Prime Sakura or DMS Obito can beat individually.

Neji mid diff.

 

[paratise]

Since Kiba has no feats and logic reasoning to be 1/3993th of Madara's power, and Madara's chakra is tiers above as feats show, Neji beats him comfortably. Let alone KCC Neji, who not even Prime Sakura or DMS Obito can beat individually.

Neji mid diff.

Ty Radara Mules.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Both kaitens used against the juubi were the same size an both were unphased by the sweep an were able to parry the giant much to the acknowledgment of kishi,"He splendidly evades the Juubi’s attack using the Hyuuga’s parry technique!!"

Hiashi not bein seen to hav trouble with the spears only shows that he has more proficiency with the technique, not that his could parry attacks leagues above wat neji can.

3 Rashomon gates got destroyed by 4tail TBB
A weaker juubi was able to flick a TBB from a stronger 8tails an casually slap away the strongest bijuu's

A tail sweep from a stronger juubi would sweep 5 rashomon with ease yet both kaitens stood ground.

Kiba's intelligence is even lower than genin neji so his only hope is cerberrus which u cant prove can penetrate kaiten while kaiten can parry any physical attack by any bijuu.

Kiba never really increased much in the strength department from P1 only his ninjutsu prowes got increased while his intelligence is really a massive disadvantage to someone like neji tho u already agreed he gets godstomped in CQC without fusion.

A TBB from the hachibi would eradicate those 3 rashomon.
A finger flick from the weakest juubi would play domino with rashomon as it did hachibi's TBB an kurama.

Kishi stated that neji was able to successfully parry the sweep of a much stronger juubi.

In terms of scaling and physical prowes of the juubi kaiten shits on cerberus.
4tailed naruto caused a massive shockwave clearing away a huge portion of the forest with only a hand slap.

Juubi flicked a controled kurama and hachibi with ease yet failed to sweep away two small marbles Lol

No they weren't. In the very scan I linked you, it's clearly distinguishable that Hiashi's Kaiten was larger by comparing the size of both their craters. Neji has never displayed a kaiten at Hiashi's level

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Then I can go even further and compare their air palms, but honesly, I'm not even going to waste my time. You're the only person I've ever seen that thinks Neji is stronger then Hiashi.

So now were comparing the Juubi flicking away a TBB that never exploded to a TBB that exploded on the Rashomon. It should be common sense that TBB exerts all it's energy when exploding. I suppose because Naruto was able to

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Bee's TBB translates into him being able to tank it's explosion as well, correct? All these feats your listing for the Jubi's tail yet IIRC, Akamichi Clan members were able to restrain them.

Neji using Kaiten in tandem with Hiashi's stronger Kaiten to parry away a single Jubi tail doesn't prove that it can tank Kibas Ooiga Gatenga, which is complete different attack. These are essentially two rotating techniques clashing; meaning the one spinning the fastest with the most force wins. Plus, you conveniently ignored my comments in regards to Kiba purposely leaving chakra-less saliva all over the ground to disrupt Neji's rotation.

Against 1 tbb from 4 tailed Naruto, Orochimaru's triple rashomon failed:

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While a tbb from Killer Bee get flicked away by a single finger of juubi:

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A kaiten can match (or even push back) half of said tentacle's power:

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Fang over fang/headed wolves are easily dealt by kaiten. Tracking Kiba's speed won't be as hard either since Neji's eyes could track 5th gate Lee in part 1. Neji's stamina is higher according to DB, so he can outlast with his defense. Intelligence goes to certain person for obvious reasons and smoke bombs/traps are useless for another obvious reasons. I know the chars were severely weaker back then but Naruto who had a seal on stomach which troubled his chakra control and already had poor chakra control could evade Kiba's fang over fangs with shushin. Neji who have shown type of chakra control even hard for jounins at part 1 and much faster on foot can possibly match or outdo Kiba's attacking speed (Even if we go by equal scaling for said characters).

I am lazy so no scans in second paragraph U_U.

I addressed most of this above.

 

[neosmith500]

it's clearly distinguishable that Hiashi's Kaiten was larger by comparing the size of both their craters. Neji has never displayed a kaiten at Hiashi's level Then I can go even further and compare their air palms, but honesly, I'm not even going to waste my time. You're the only person I've ever seen that thinks Neji is stronger then Hiashi[\QUOTE]

The initial kaitens used to parry the juubi were exactly the same size

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War Neji having surpassed hiashi is not as impossible as u think

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Compairing neji's Vacuum Palm to hiashi's Vacuum Wall Palm is like compairin V1 Aye to V2
One is a more advanced version of the same technique, we have never seen air palm from hiashi

These are essentially two rotating techniques clashing

But one is meant to parry the opposing force.

 

[neosmith500]

All these feats your listing for the Jubi's tail yet IIRC, Akamichi Clan members were able to restrain them.

Implying that the Akamaichi clan working together as giants to be weak? Lol

Neji using Kaiten in tandem with Hiashi's stronger Kaiten to parry away a single Jubi tail doesn't prove that it can tank Kibas Ooiga Gatenga

Both kaiten were the same sizes u hav no proof which is stronger

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comparing the Juubi flicking away a TBB that never exploded to a TBB that exploded on the Rashomon

Same TBB from hachibi would blast past those 3 gates.

Plus, you conveniently ignored my comments in regards to Kiba purposely leaving chakra-less saliva all over the ground to disrupt Neji's rotation

This was P1

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Ntn kiba does will go unseen.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Not really enjoying this debate tbh.

 

[Icelerate]

Not really enjoying this debate tbh.

That is what happens when you try debating with neosmith. Not saying he isn't bringing valid points, but countering his posts seem pretty depressing due to his posting style and way of countering being hard to understand.

OT: Neji wins mid-high difficulty.