How strong was Hamura?

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Hagoromo level? Weaker? Stronger?

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He has long hair and the Byakugan. He should be able to block chakra points in an instant just like Kaguya.
Judging by the clothes, he should have had Six Paths Senjutsu or something similar to it. Perhaps a different version of that?
Shikotsumyaku - possible. Tomogoroshi no Haikotsu would be a great feat.
Some chakra manifestation like Susano'o? - A real bony-skeletal Susano'o using his Shikotsumyaku would be awesome. That, overlapped by some kind of chakra, just like Susano'o.

Just speculate. :p
 
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Featless, that's how strong.

OT: Around Pre-Jin Hagoromo level. Hamura's body is "stronger" but the Byakugan inferior.
 

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bro we cant say that
we only know he have byakugan
but I belive he is like Hagoromo without bijuus
 

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Taijustu specialist IMO.
 

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How strong was Hagoromo before becoming a Jinchuuriki?
Did becoming a JJ affect him all that much? I mean, he probably had Amenotejikara and Six Paths Senjutsu before that (the senjutsu you get by sealing the Juubi is different). A pair of Gudoudama and more durability don't seem to make Hagoromo greatly stronger.
 

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Strong enough to be negg diffed by totsuka
 

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I'm betting he's the one who invented the gentle fist. So taijutsu expert and maybe he was the "talented" one among the twins.
 

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Pe Jin Hagoromo's level

Simple:Jin (Yin and Yang)Hagoromo > Yin and Yang Hagoromo(Post Jin) > Yin Hamura~ Yang Hagoromo
 

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Pe Jin Hagoromo's level

Simple:Jin (Yin and Yang)Hagoromo > Yin and Yang Hagoromo(Post Jin) > Yin Hamura~ Yang Hagoromo
By how much did the Ten-Tails increase Hagoromo's capabilities, though?
I wouldn't say there's a huge power margin between Yin-Yang Hagoromo and Jinchuuriki Yin-Yang Hagoromo.
 

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By how much did the Ten-Tails increase Hagoromo's capabilities, though?
I wouldn't say there's a huge power margin between Yin-Yang Hagoromo and Jinchuuriki Yin-Yang Hagoromo.

Yes there is it was Complete Ten tails power, which by the way required both Hagoromo and Hamura power to seal it

BY the way Kaguya merged with Shinjuu to become Ten tails, so it was at least much stronger then Yin Hamura or Yang Hagoromo.

So Jin Hagoromo would be at least two times(possible close 2.5 multiplier) stronger then his Pre Jin.

and Jin Hagoromo was at least 1.5 times stronger then his post Jin state.

EDIT: In short Jin Hagoromo is at least two times stronger then Hamura
 
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Yes there is it was Complete Ten tails power, which by the way required both Hagoromo and Hamura power to seal it

BY the way Kaguya merged with Shinjuu to become Ten tails, so it was at least much stronger then Yin Hamura or Yang Hagoromo.

So Jin Hagoromo would be at least two times(possible close 2.5 multiplier) stronger then his Pre Jin.

and Jin Hagoromo was at least 1.5 times stronger then his post Jin state.

EDIT: In short Jin Hagoromo is at least two times stronger then Hamura
You can't look at it like that. The Ten-Tails is weaker than Kaguya, even if it's a mutation.
Using that logic, Jinchuuriki Obito and Jinchuuriki Madara would be stronger than Kaguya as they sealed the almost-complete Ten-Tails and gained its power.
You may argue we're talking about the complete Ten-Tails here, but the difference isn't huge compared to the one Madara summoned.

Hagoromo and Hamura should have been quite superior compared to the Ten-Tails.
In my opinion, Hagoromo only got a boost of around 20% by becoming a Jinchuuriki.
 

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You can't look at it like that. The Ten-Tails is weaker than Kaguya, even if it's a mutation.
Using that logic, Jinchuuriki Obito and Jinchuuriki Madara would be stronger than Kaguya as they sealed the almost-complete Ten-Tails and gained its power.
You may argue we're talking about the complete Ten-Tails here, but the difference isn't huge compared to the one Madara summoned.

Hagoromo and Hamura should have been quite superior compared to the Ten-Tails.
In my opinion, Hagoromo only got a boost of around 20% by becoming a Jinchuuriki.

Well good point, but let me show you another view at it.

Let's start from the begining: Kaguya consumed Holy fruit and gained all the holy power for herself, let's call her Prime Kaguya

Later on Kaguya gave birth to two boys Hagoromo and Hamura, who inherited some power of Holy fruit.

I would assume Hagoromo and Hamura took TOGETHER around 60 % of Kaguya's original power.

I assume that because Hagoromo and Hamura spread some chakra to mankind then and still they had to be enough powerfull to beat weakened Kaguya who merged with Shinjuu to gain Ten tails form.

After beating Ten tails they sealed it into Hagoromo, so he would have 40% of Kaguya's Prime power + 30% of Kaguya's prime power in shape of Ten tails.

In other words Juubi consist of only 40% of Kaguya's prime power just little above each of her sons.

Madara as Juubi Jinchurki had 25% of Kaguya's Prime power(Almost Complete Juubi) + himself(25% of Kaguya's prime power) so as result 50%

Obito as Juuubi Jinchurki had 15 % of Kaguya's Prime power(Incomplete Juubi)+ himself(15% of Kaguya's prime power) so as result 30%.

Kaguya who appeared after taking over Madara has same amount of power as Juubi so 25% of her original power, then absorbed chakra from living being caught in IT so around 50% of her original power.

Later on she powered up, once again most likely being little above 70% of her original power.

Summary:

Prime Kaguya: 100% of holy fruit power

Kaguya after birth of Hagoromo and Hamura: 40% of holy fruit power

Yang Hagoromo: 30% of holy fruit power

Yin Hamura: 30% of holy fruit power

Jin Hagoromo: 70% of of holy fruit power

Post Jin Hagoromo: 35%-40% of holy fruit power

Kaguya after revival: 25-30% of holy fruit power

Kaguya after absorbing chakra from IT first time: around 50% of holy fruit power

Kaguya after absorbing chakra from IT second time(last power up): slightly above 70% of holy fruit power
 
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Well good point, but let me show you another view at it.

Let's start from the begining: Kaguya consumed Holy fruit and gained all the holy power for herself, let's call her Prime Kaguya

Later on Kaguya gave birth to two boys Hagoromo and Hamura, who inherited some power of Holy fruit.

I would assume Hagoromo and Hamura took TOGETHER around 60 % of Kaguya's original power.

I assume that because Hagoromo and Hamura spread some chakra to mankind then and still they had to be enough powerfull to beat weakened Kaguya who merged with Shinjuu to gain Ten tails form.

After beating Ten tails they sealed it into Hagoromo, so he would have 40% of Kaguya's Prime power + 30% of Kaguya's prime power in shape of Ten tails.

In other words Juubi consist of only 40% of Kaguya's prime power just little above each of her sons.

Madara as Juubi Jinchurki had 25% of Kaguya's Prime power(Almost Complete Juubi) + himself(25% of Kaguya's prime power) so as result 50%

Obito as Juuubi Jinchurki had 15 % of Kaguya's Prime power(Incomplete Juubi)+ himself(15% of Kaguya's prime power) so as result 30%.

Kaguya who appeared after taking over Madara has same amount of power as Juubi so 25% of her original power, then absorbed chakra from living being caught in IT so around 50% of her original power.

Later on she powered up, once again most likely being little above 70% of her original power.

Summary:

Prime Kaguya: 100% of holy fruit power

Kaguya after birth of Hagoromo and Hamura: 40% of holy fruit power

Yang Hagoromo: 30% of holy fruit power

Yin Hamura: 30% of holy fruit power

Jin Hagoromo: 70% of of holy fruit power

Post Jin Hagoromo: 35%-40% of holy fruit power

Kaguya after revival: 25-30% of holy fruit power

Kaguya after absorbing chakra from IT first time: around 50% of holy fruit power

Kaguya after absorbing chakra from IT second time(last power up): slightly above 70% of holy fruit power
But having the Ten-Tails inside you doesn't necessarily mean you get Kaguya's power. 40% or not, it's a lot.
By having sealed the Ten-Tails inside him, Hagoromo gained the ability to use Gudoudama, a little more durability and speed. He did NOT get Shikotsumyaku (which would be at around 40% of her power, by your calculations, if not less), he didn't get the ability to switch dimensions and such. All he got was some boost in strength and speed, not anything else.
 

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It's stated that Otsutsuki in the Last with a simple gesture of his hand absorbed Naruto's SM powers. You can imagine how strong Hamura would be. I'd say Hamura = Hago (w/t juubi).​
 

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But having the Ten-Tails inside you doesn't necessarily mean you get Kaguya's power. 40% or not, it's a lot.
By having sealed the Ten-Tails inside him, Hagoromo gained the ability to use Gudoudama, a little more durability and speed. He did NOT get Shikotsumyaku (which would be at around 40% of her power, by your calculations, if not less), he didn't get the ability to switch dimensions and such. All he got was some boost in strength and speed, not anything else.

I mean chakra wise, not power wise completly, although it is half of truth anyway

It's stated that Otsutsuki in the Last with a simple gesture of his hand absorbed Naruto's SM powers. You can imagine how strong Hamura would be. I'd say Hamura = Hago (w/t juubi).​

Yeah, Ootsutsuki deities are hella powerfull
 
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