Lol Pure assumption, you have no idea what kishi's intentions were so you have no right to say what his reasoning was. Fact of the matter is that fuu/torune were sent to another location.
& No, it makes much more sense for obito's dimension to be relative to the real world which explains why fuu/torune weren't near sasuke/karin & doesn't have any inconsistencies such as the one you're trying to point out.
Also tell me where obito's weapons were? His chakra rods? His kunai? I don't see them in any of the scans showing the dimension so what? Another inconsistency or are they simply in another place? I'm going to go with the latter, more logical answer if you don't mind.
I already explained how intangibility doesn't work like that.
Kakashi only hit obito because he went intangible right in front of him, obito won't be doing that when he can teleport instead.
Lol Pure assumption, you have no idea what kishi's intentions were so you have no right to say what his reasoning was. Fact of the matter is that fuu/torune were sent to another location.
& No, it makes much more sense for obito's dimension to be relative to the real world which explains why fuu/torune weren't near sasuke/karin & doesn't have any inconsistencies such as the one you're trying to point out.
Also tell me where obito's weapons were? His chakra rods? His kunai? I don't see them in any of the scans showing the dimension so what? Another inconsistency or are they simply in another place? I'm going to go with the latter, more logical answer if you don't mind.
obito lost his mask for a reason, because kakashi sent a naruto clone to the kamui dimension, and when obito made his whole body intangible due to naruto's tbb, naruto's clone blew his mask right off, im saying this would happen with madara as well if obito warps him to the kamui dimension, madara would just take his eye in there.
but heres why madara would never get caught in kamui snipe :
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jj madara would immidiately sense chakra building up in obito's eye's and would avoid the snipe in time by either swapping places with a limbo clone or just simply flying off the way.
either way obito only has one attempt to do anything in this fight before he gets 1shoted by madara, and nothing will work on jj madara.
obito has no way of winning this fight. limbo counters kamui snipe due to madara having the ability to switch himself with his limbo clones.
Now you're trying to argue that when Obito warps something, that object won't be near him when he phases?
That bias Lol. Using Fu/Torune with Sasuke/Karin is a bad example. They were panels apart.
What we do know is during the heat of battle Obito warped Kakashi and when he phased, Kakashi was by his body. Kakashi warped Kunai and when Obito phased, it was by his body. Kakashi warped rasengan, and again right by Obitos body. Kakashi warped a shadow clone and big surprise right by Obitos body.
Even if Drapshin is right and Kamui is a vast land, It's irrelevant.
During battle, if he warps someone/something, and then phases, he'll warp by that person/object. I've already provided enough evidence, and there's nothing to suggest otherwise.
Even if Drapshin is right and Kamui is a vast land, It's irrelevant.
During battle, if he warps someone/something, and then phases, he'll warp by that person/object. I've already provided enough evidence, and there's nothing to suggest otherwise.
They end up in a location relative to where they were warped in the real world, & since fuu/torune were nowhere near sasuke/karin that shows us that there is a considerable distance between them, implying that the kamui dimension is vast/relative to the real world.
I never once said that obito can warp people to wherever he wants, merely himself. Please reread my argument if you're going to try & rebut it. U_U
That bias Lol. Using Fu/Torune with Sasuke/Karin is a bad example. They were panels apart.
The madara fapboy is trying to claim that when obito warps he first has to warp to his dimension, & when he does warp he'll be right beside madara who will be ready to attack.
To his first point, he has zero evidence to suggest that obito has to warp to his dimension & back before he can warp again, debunked. To his second point, I already proved that obito can warp wherever he wants [not others] within his dimension, thus debunking that claim.
You might not be here to debate, but the fact that you tried to find a flaw in my argument that wasn't even there to begin with, & when I'm arguing with a complete buffoon on top of it all tells me something..
obito lost his mask for a reason, because kakashi sent a naruto clone to the kamui dimension, and when obito made his whole body intangible due to naruto's tbb, naruto's clone blew his mask right off, im saying this would happen with madara as well if obito warps him to the kamui dimension, madara would just take his eye in there.
& I already told you how this is completely useless because intangibility =/= warping, obito can warp to his desired location, intangibility does not grant that ability.
but heres why madara would never get caught in kamui snipe :
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jj madara would immidiately sense chakra building up in obito's eye's and would avoid the snipe in time by either swapping places with a limbo clone or just simply flying off the way.
No he wouldn't, why didn't madara sense the kamui snipe
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& try to dodge by moving his gudodama like
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? & Don't say he didn't think he needed to dodge because that contradicts what you're saying. If he sensed the distortion & onmyoudon still didn't cancel the jutsu then he should've dodged if he had the speed in order to do so. Moreover tell me why kaguya wasn't able to anticipate the kamui snipe
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? & Lastly give me any scan, any at all that shows someone sensing & reacting to a kamui snipe, I'll wait.
either way obito only has one attempt to do anything in this fight before he gets 1shoted by madara, and nothing will work on jj madara.
Lol what the hell? For once I actually agree with the Madara fans are saying, and not just because what they're saying actually makes sense. But also because the people defending Obito are straight up *******s. Madara fan would make a good post and all I see from Trúth is, "Wank." Ano she doesn't qcrually counter it. Just gives the good ol' "wasting my time" scapegoat. Only Draphsin has contributed anything to the debate U_U
They end up in a location relative to where they were warped in the real world, & since fuu/torune were nowhere near sasuke/karin that shows us that there is a considerable distance between them, implying that the kamui dimension is vast/relative to the real world.
I never once said that obito can warp people to wherever he wants, merely himself. Please reread my argument if you're going to try & rebut it. U_U
The madara fapboy is trying to claim that when obito warps he first has to warp to his dimension first, & when he does warp he'll be right beside madara who will be ready to attack.
To his first point, he has zero evidence to suggest that obito has to warp to his dimension & back before he can warp again, debunked. To his second point, I already proved that obito can warp wherever he wants [not others] within his dimension, thus debunking that claim.
You might not be here to debate, but the fact that you tried to find a flaw in my argument that wasn't even there to begin with, & when I'm arguing with a complete buffoon on top of it all tells me something..
The Madara fapboy is right you mean when Obito warps from point A to point b? He warps inside Kamui land then warps out to point B. I thought this was obvious. My group had a discussion on BFR the other day and this was brought up (we agreed it wasn't BFR)
Lol what the hell? For once I actually agree with the Madara fans are saying, and not just because what they're saying actually makes sense. But also because the people defending Obito are straight up *******s. Madara fan would make a good post and all I see from Trúth is, "Wank." Ano she doesn't qcrually counter it. Just gives the good ol' "wasting my time" scapegoat. Only Draphsin has contributed anything to the debate U_U
Obito uses Kamui on Madara.
Madara switches with the Limbo.
Assuming Obito can warp Limbo away (which I'm doubtful about), the Limbo gets warped to Kamui dimension.
Madara uses PS, Obito slips through it.
The overlapping areas of Obito's body appear in the dimension where Limbo is located.
Limbo destroys Obito from the other dimension.
Either Obito slips or doesn't. In both cases, he loses.
For those saying that Limbo negs....I've got some news for you.
Kamui is a passive ability.
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Meaning that once Obito has it active, he doesn't have to see an attack coming. Pretty much the perfect counter for Limbo. If he starts the fight out with Kamui active, (and he likely will, he's a cautious fighter) then he beats Madara low diff. Kamui snipe GG. Madara's only chance is for Obito to not begin with it, and to hit him with Limbo before Obito does activate it.
Madara isn't swapping with his limbos. When limbo is inactive but not on cooldown, he can summon the limbos to his current position, at which point he runs away. Thats what he did to avoid Naruto and Sasuke sealing him.
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It's essentially a glorified Substitusion. Madara is Kakashi, Limbo is the shadow clone, Naruto and sasuke are Naruto.
You can even see him jumping away at the top of the panel.[
Sorry Trúth but Kamui does not work as you described it. Obito phased through Minato's kunai and was slammed to the ground with Rasengan a second later.
Sorry Trúth but Kamui does not work as you described it. Obito phased through Minato's kunai and was slammed to the ground with Rasengan a second later.
He can stay intangible for up to 5 minutes but that doesn't mean he can automatically phase through something he doesn't see coming Lol
He had just awakened his Kamui so it makes sense he would have been too inexperienced to cancel his phasing. If what you say is true he wouldn't have been slammed with Rasengan U_U
